sigh.
ok, kids, just so we don't leave anyone behind, we're gonna go through this one. more. time.
a reader asks in yesterday's honolu star-bulletin:
what is the state's policy for issuing a "certification of live birth" versus a "certificate of live birth"? ... why the difference?
so, like responsible reporters, the star-bulletin goes straight to the proverbial horse's mouth:
no, you can't obtain a "certificate of live birth" anymore.
the state department of health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman janice okubo.
the department only issues "certifications" of live births, and that is the "official birth certificate" issued by the state of hawaii, she said.
and, it's only available in electronic form.
okubo explained that the health department went paperless in 2001.
"at that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting," she said.
information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.
"the electronic record of the birth is what (the health department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests," okubo said.
asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, okubo said the health department "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate."
"the birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models," she said.
okubo also emphasized the certification form "contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate."
she added that the u.s. supreme court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."
the issue of what constitutes an official hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year's presidential campaign. those who doubted barack obama's american citizenship called the copy of the hawaii birth document posted on his campaign web site a fake.
asked about that document, okubo said, "this is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate."
ok, we all clear on this, kids?
one form, not two.
and the same one released by the obama campaign.
so says the person who would know.
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...um, yes, bueller ... sigh ... what is it?
i’m not exactly sure what the story is trying to say.
me neither
(ok, so that wasn't that big a surprise, folks. it's friggin' freeper valley elementary ...)
i think it’s saying that there is no birth certificate... only electronic data.
SO... obama will soon be able to “prove” he was born in hawaii.
didn't this same beaurocrat claim to have seen obowma's birth certificate not just his CoLB? ... if that is true, perhaps the kenyan BC is in hawaqiian files, or perhaps a BC from some other place other than hawaii is in their files since they do not have short or long form certificates any longer!
it looks like they are saying we have all the information, but you can’t see it. neener neener neener
the alleged statement by the hawaiian official pertained to the standards for the structure of the cert of live birth form. it was not in relation to the federal standards to be eligible to hold office of the POTUS, a passport, security clearance,...etc.
ooh! shiny thing! fetch!!
story is complete rubbish.
obama’s ORIGINAL birth records have been sealed by the state of hawaii. this “certification of live birth” discussed in the article is not a substitute for the original birth certificate which they have on file and are sealed.
oh, this is total nonsense. is there a law that prohibits the issuance of a certificate of live birth or birth certificate? answer: no, of course not. there is no law prohibiting them from issuing a full form birth certificate. so this is BS and so is okubo. as i recall, what okubo doesn't say, hawaii went to the truncated form to save money. okubo has been Bs'ing this for about a year now
this frickin dingbat is covering for obama and lying through her gdamn teeth.
translation: "we destroyed the evidence."
translation: LALALALALA ICANTHEARYOU!!!!!!
i’d like someone to ask about the microfiches of the originals. those would not have just been destroyed.
this is where the issue of passports, college records, etc. come into play. as i understand it, the only documents that have been released besides the COB are his indonesian elementary school registration form and a questionable draft registration card....
ooh! more shiny things! but whose counting?
sorry, so far there is no legitimate CoLB that anyone can point to. the thing posted on the internet has been exposed as a fraud and not even a particularly good forgery.
producing a valid BC will not innoculate him from being challenged on the core issues. in fact, it will only damage him by painting him as an incompetent for spending a million $ to produce a $10 document that he could have released 4 years earlier.
the hawaiian B.C. is totally irrelevant!
his father was a british subject. both parents (sssss = plural) must be U.S. citizen!!
so, young man, you've decided to just sit there and hold your breath, i take it?
more slight of hand by obamabots to diffuse the every growing outrage about this fraud of a president.
this whole issue is clouded in a fog, on purpose, evidently, and maybe not (initially) for any political reason but something that was embarassing to the family. i think the grandparent's had some reason to have this fraud done long ago, and maybe obama never knew really what his heritage was until he started investigating. or maybe his mother became pregnant before his father was divorced from his previous wife. who knows...but, perhaps that is why he hates white people so much. his white mother had some secret and then left him, his white grandparents hid the secret and lied to him. could make a child a bit paranoid.
yeeesh ... to no one's surprise, the kids still don't — or actually won't — get it. there's nothing more to get from hawaii (no matter how many noogies they get from internet powerhouse! andy martin). and the kids certainly won't be getting anything more from obama. got it?