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I sent the following message to Congresswoman Betsey Markey. She displayed an extreme lack of courage with regard to the health care vote and has been a huge disappointment.

The district that she represents, while competitive, is trending Democrat. There are far more Democrats who supported the health care bill that are in more difficult races than Betsey Markey. She is a profile in cowardice.

I'm curious to get her response, but I'm sure it will just make me angrier.

Dear Congresswoman Markey,

I am saddened by your extreme cowardice with regard to the health care bill. The fact that you voted against the bill indicated to me that you are more concerned with protecting big health insurance companies at the expense of people like me.

I was excited to support you in the last election and get rid of Marilyn Musgrave, now I realize that you are not much better. I can no longer support you and in the next Congressional election I will leave my vote blank.

I wish you had the courage to actually stand up and do the right thing with regard to health care. The fact that you hide behind the budget issue to justify your vote is pathetic and hypocritical.

Sincerely,

Your Angry Constituent

Originally posted to slyde734 on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 08:34 AM PST.

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    •  Several things in your opus that aren't (2+ / 0-)
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      cville townie, Lujane

      quite true.

      I was excited to support you in the last election and get rid of Marilyn Musgrave, now I realize that you are not much better.

      That is a LIE. According to the Washington Post, she has voted with Democrats 94.5% of the time since she took office.

      The district that she represents, while competitive, is trending Democrat. There are far more Democrats who supported the health care bill that are in more difficult races than Betsey Markey.

      That is a LIE. The district is not only competitive, it is listed as one of the top 10 races most likely to change hands back to the Republicans in 2010.

      If you want to rail against her vote, feel free. But get your fucking facts straight. For those of us that have lived in this district for close to two decades, we appreciate having a Democrat in Congress, for a change and aren't looking for her to pass the "progressive" litmus test. Not unless you want our party to go the way of the Republicans.

      HRed for your lies.

      They're like the Inspector Clouseaus' of the blogging world.

      by Pager on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 08:43:34 AM PST

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      •  Go Fuck yourself... (0+ / 1-)
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        Pager

        There are plenty of other democrats in far more competative districts that cast the vote for health care reform. This district has been trending Democrat for years with the influx of green jobs and a major university.

        As I suggested...the district is competative, but there are plenty of other Democrats who had the stones to stand up for their convictions in what is probably the biggest unaddressed issue of our generation.

        You are a fool and a lemming. We elect people to make difficult decisions not easy ones, her vote was full cowardice.

      •  You are wrong...I didn't lie (0+ / 0-)

        What I said in my post that the district is competitive, but it is trending Democrat is correct.

        Please read below from the Fort Collins Coloradian:

        Bob Duffy, the political science chairman at CSU, said: "She is in a very tough spot — she’s a freshman in a district where Republicans outnumber Democrats, albeit not by as much as they did four years ago."

        •  Learn to read. (0+ / 0-)

          That is a LIE. The district is not only competitive, it is listed as one of the top 10 races most likely to change hands back to the Republicans in 2010.

          They're like the Inspector Clouseaus' of the blogging world.

          by Pager on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 10:31:48 AM PST

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          •  Again because you are slow... (0+ / 0-)

            The district that she represents, while competitive, is trending Democrat

            You distorted my post, and called me a liar. I didn't lie. As the quote indicates, I said it was competitive, but its also trending Democrat as evidenced by recent elections.

            I also didn't vote for her for the privledge of voting for her again. I voted for her to make tough decisions. How can you justify that?

            •  And because you are bordering on insulting (0+ / 0-)

              I am going to copy and paste my reply one more time for you. And then, I'm done. Because you aren't worth the time.

              it is listed as one of the top 10 races most likely to change hands back to the Republicans in 2010.

              And yes, when you distort the truth, that makes you a liar. Welcome to the big leagues, little boy.

              They're like the Inspector Clouseaus' of the blogging world.

              by Pager on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 10:46:17 AM PST

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            •  And I'll add this, (0+ / 0-)

              because I don't think you read what you write, my reply was in response to what you wrote:

              There are far more Democrats who supported the health care bill that are in more difficult races than Betsey Markey.

              They're like the Inspector Clouseaus' of the blogging world.

              by Pager on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 10:48:19 AM PST

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              •  As an example from Daily Kos... (0+ / 0-)

                Courageous Democrats:

                ND-AL Pomeroy, Earl R+10
                WV-01 Mollohan, Alan R+9
                AR-01 Berry, Marion R+8
                IN-08 Ellsworth, Brad R+8
                PA-10 Carney, Chris R+8
                OH-18 Space, Zach R+7
                SC-05 Spratt, John R+7
                AZ-01 Kirkpatrick, Ann R+6
                IN-09 Hill, Baron R+6
                WV-03 Rahall, Nick R+6

                Non Couragerous Democrats:

                Betsey Markey

                Like I said...you are a mean spirited bully.

                •  What a hypocrite you are. (0+ / 0-)

                  You call me a bully? This, from a spiteful little shit who's first comment to me was "Go Fuck yourself.."?

                  Yep. I'm done here. Thanks for doing the heavy lifting for me.

                  They're like the Inspector Clouseaus' of the blogging world.

                  by Pager on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 10:53:58 AM PST

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              •  Please explain? (0+ / 0-)

                Since you are obsessed with defending Betsey Markey, please explain how this vote will aid in her reelection....

      •  Colorado is competitive (0+ / 0-)

        at every level...Markey is a junior and wading through the morass of Congress is neither easy or can it be made quick. That said, I too am disappointed that she did not stand for womens rights and was not informed enough to support the reform bill.. Many will be challenged here in Colorado - our govrnor for sure -but voting the straight party ticket is only easy when the issue is a small one ..which HC reform was not!

        Perhaps she will be more helpful when the bill comes back from the Senate! Otherwise --it will be primary city!

    •  When I called her office, they were too cute (1+ / 0-)
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      about how Betsy was going to vote.  I figured she was going to pull some stunt.

      She wants it both ways, trying to appeal to the Republicans here and get the progressives to vote for her.  Sometimes that just doesn't work.

  •  Colorado 04 is a R+6 district (2+ / 0-)
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    ...which elected the likes of Marilyn Musgrave three times this decade.

    McCain also beat Obama 50-49 there in 2008.

    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 08:46:01 AM PST

    •  Big F..ing deal... (0+ / 0-)

      Why do close elections excuse difficult decisions. I didn't vote for her so that I could vote for her again in two years, I voted for her because I thought she would make tough decisions with regard to health care.

      You are a fool.

      •  Stop calling people names. (1+ / 0-)
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        I realize you haven't been here very long but you've been here long enough to know that bullshit earns you donuts. If you can't have a civil dialogue with folks, then take a break until you can behave like an adult.

        They're like the Inspector Clouseaus' of the blogging world.

        by Pager on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 09:08:54 AM PST

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        •  Stop lecturing... (0+ / 0-)

          Don't lecture...She made a cowardly decision and you are trying to justify it.

          Its sad.

        •  Now Respond.... (0+ / 0-)

          I removed the invective...Certainly over the line.

          Now, I would be interested for you to respond to my substantive comment...

          Why do close elections excuse difficult decisions?

          I didn't vote for her so that I could vote for her again in two years, I voted for her because I thought she would make tough decisions with regard to health care

  •  Markey's statement (2+ / 0-)
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    It was a difficult decision because there’s a lot of good things in the bill, as well, that I like, but in the end, I just didn’t think that it did enough to control health-care costs," the Fort Collins Democrat said in an interview with the Coloradoan, calling it the most difficult vote she’s cast in her 10 months in Congress.
    ...

    The vote is Markey’s most significant break with Democratic leadership since assuming office in January, and it comes on an issue that has long been a priority for her party. She was among about 10 freshmen Democrats prominently targeted by Republicans in 2010 who voted against the bill.

    "It was very difficult, not because it was my own party but because it was health care reform that’s so needed in this country, and I desperately want to see us reform our health-care system," Markey said.

    http://www.coloradoan.com/...

    Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious

    by Scarce on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 08:50:15 AM PST

  •  I disagree (2+ / 0-)
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    "now I realize that you are not much better"

    I prefer my Congresscritters not be on Dobson's speed-dial list, thankyouverymuch.

  •  I am going to call her office today (1+ / 0-)
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    and tell her that I'm in the district next door, might be put into her district after the census, and will consider this vote a black mark against her.

    That said, replacing Marilyn Musgrave with an inflatable boxing puppet would represent a huge victory for the nation. Don't ever call Markey no better than Musgrave.

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 08:58:43 AM PST

    •  Umm... (0+ / 0-)

      Musgrave would have voted against the bill....Markey voted against the bill.

      Explain the difference...At a minimum, Musgrave had the courage of her own convictions as insane as they are.

      Markey is about political expedience.

      I didn't vote for her so that I could vote for here again in 2010, I voted for her to make difficult decisions and hugely important pieces of legislation.

      Excuse me for the disappointment.

      •  So on one vote out of hundreds (0+ / 0-)

        Markey = Musgrave.

        On the other votes, Markey != Musgrave.

        Therefore, Markey != Musgrave.

        Crows and automobile tires are black. Therefore, crows = tires? Try strapping 4 crows onto your car and see how your car rides.

        In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

        by blue aardvark on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 09:38:10 AM PST

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        •  Sure... (0+ / 0-)

          I understand your point, and I freely admit that my missive is driven largely by frustration with what I view as Markey's cowardly position on health care.

          Yes...you are correct, Marilyn Musgrave is an out of touch right wing loon bag. My 13 year old cat would provide better representation than Musgrave ever did.

          Markey is much better, yes you are correct.

          But...we elect people to make tough decisions, not to keep seats away from noxious right wing lunatics.

          •  And as I said (0+ / 0-)

            I intend for Markey to hear from me today. It is not easy being a (D) from a PVI +R district, and we need to strengthen her spine.

            Your rant is forgivable as we all care so much about healthcare and the vote was so close. And the noxious Stupak amendment does not play well here.

            In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

            by blue aardvark on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 11:34:43 AM PST

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        •  Some people will do amazing mental gymnastics (0+ / 0-)

          to be able to continue to consider themselves "right".  Such is the nature of opinions and egos.

          Sigh ...

  •  Markey is not equivalent to Musgrave, but... (0+ / 0-)

    "not being Musgrave" is only the start. I worked in this district for months to help elect Obama and Markey, and I can assure you that her present "afraid of her own shadow" approach is deeply alienating those who worked to get her elected. She doesn't have to be Barney Frank, but she does have to have the courage of her convictions.

    Here is the letter that I wrote to two of Markey's aides prior to the vote:

    Please urge Representative Markey to support the HCR bill, and pass this message along to her if you will.

    I worked with many others here in Longmont to help turn out the vote for Betsy during the last election.

    I made many friends on that campaign, canvassing and calling early in the campaign, and working until the late into the evening on election day. We passed out Betsy's materials and argued on faith that she would support the issues that the voters here repeatedly said they were concerned with, healthcare being high on that list.

    I worked with key people who catalyzed the effort here in Longmont and the surrounding area (the locals and those who came from elsewhere to help), and you should understand clearly that we value this effort to reform healthcare above almost all others.

    If you are hearing otherwise from someone, it is simply not accurate.

    Electing Democrats in this area is not terribly easy, and based on my conversations lately with those who worked on the campaign, I am certain that unless you step up and support this effort wholeheartedly, it will be very hard to turn out the organizers, much less the voters, to help out in your re-election campaign.

    So, please step forward and support this effort. This is why we worked so hard on the campaign. Really, we want nothing more than to be able to proudly and confidently go out there and do it again.

    We are counting on you.

    Best regards,

    One of the organizers I worked with let me know after the vote that Besty will be coming to town soon to talk to voters. I, for one, will be there asking what she stands for, because I am certain this is the question I will have to answer again and again if I'm out canvassing for her with the many, and increasing, liberal voters in my part of this district.

    Not being Musgrave or whatever other whackadoodle runs against her is very unlikely to get enough voters out the door in an off year election for her to get re-elected. No matter how blue doggy she is, the Rs in this district aren't going to vote for her. She has to be for something that she can articulate and that we can rally to.

    If she can't do that, then perhaps we're better off losing the district for a cycle and running again next time with someone able to say this is what I am for and willing to take real risks to move legislation in that direction.

    •  Thanks... (0+ / 0-)

      Thanks for the thoughtful response. I could not agree with you more.

      Comparing her to Marilyn Musgrave is perhaps a bit of an overstatement.

      I would like to think that she is capable of making difficult decisions.

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