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A very cool friend of mine (who looks a lot like Adam Savage from MythBusters; actually, I think he looks a little like Jamie Hyneman too, but maybe they're starting to look a little alike after years of working with each other and the husband and I have been watching an excessive amount of MythBusters the past few weeks...but I digress) posted this comment on one of the social networking sites:

"If a cop stops me in Arizona and says papers and I say scissors, do I win?"

And before anyone thinks I'm talking about the Urban Dictionary top definitions of roshambo, I'm using it more in context with the phonetic French for Rock, Paper, Scissors ("Ro! Cham! Beau!")

roshambo

  1. phonetic French for "rock-paper-scissors." (The 3 friends roshamboed for the bill after wolfing down a humongous lunch at the local diner. The loser promptly paid without protest.

All to say, I can't believe that day in and day out, more of "teh stupid" comes out of Arizona. Seriously, Arizonans, you're letting extremism impact your economy.  Hate is not an economically feasible state policy.  

'If you're brown, get out of town.'  'If you study, get white, buddy.'  These are just some of the new state mottoes I've been kicking around because their old motto, "Ditat Deus," God Enriches, doesn't quite capture the flavor of the new and "improved" Arizona.

Fear, paranoia and ignorance are not family values; your beliefs, your way is not a singularity of perfection in this universe. Do I think something needs to be done to work out the problems illegal border crossings and undocumented workers?  Yes, but on the Federal level so that the laws and applications of the laws are consistent state to state.  I also firmly believe that you have to come up with options that don't include "shoot on site" and "deporting children of undocumented workers who were born on American soil ... and therefore...AMERICAN citizens" In addition, we need to financially demotivate companies from hiring undocumented workers; they get cheap labor, pay less taxes, we don't get the taxes from the workers paid under the table, etc.

Countries that build walls, fences and other means to try and tightly contain their borders were countries like the U.S.S.R.  Granted, those countries were doing it more to keep their citizens in, and not to keep all us freedom-and-apple-pie-loving people out.  

I know AZ will defensively try to tell you that they're just as worried about those Canadians and Irish and Finnish sneaking into America, but when you look at all the other laws being enacted at the same time, it's clear that this is targeting Mexico.  Also, who else bears some responsibility in this?  Mexico itself - you have a corrupt system and desperately poor people who need to survive - and it's economically beneficial to you, Mexico, when workers cross the American border...because they send money back to their families, which gets spent in Mexico...It's really a vicious circle and both countries use, abuse and discard the most vulnerable of all, the workers and their families.

I had to write this today, maybe only because my friend made that awesome comment.  But on some level, I can think and speak more rationally on this topic right now, as opposed to all of the states that are aggressively passing laws that limit a woman's personal choice or eroding the civil liberties of GLBTs, women and minorities.  Oklahoma...I'm looking at you and some of your wingnut counterparts across the country...

Now I leave you with some great song lyrics that I think hit the nail on the head...

Arizona by Kings of Leon

It took two days
For me to figure out
This isn't working out
But I lost my way

I drove all night
Just to be with you
But you weren't worth the view
I gotta hit the brakes

Now you know
Get up and go

Arizona, Arizona
A car wreck on the highway
Now you're burning by the side
Of the road
Arizona, Arizona
Is a million miles from Florida
Now you're history
I'm stranded
Get me out
I'm going home

Deep in your soul
Lies a lonely heart
That only ever pumps
For you alone
And I can't relate
So I gotta leave you here
I can breathe without you, dear
Just start walking away

Now you know
Get up and go

Arizona, Arizona
A car wreck on highway
Now you're burning by the side
Of the road
Arizona, Arizona
Is a million miles from Florida
Now you're history
I'm stranded
Get me out
I'm going home

Tell me, how does that feel?
With a grand canyon between me and you
And tell me how does that feel to see
Me waving gooodbye?

Took two days
For me to figure out
This isn't working out
I gotta hit the brakes

Arizona, Arizona
A car wreck on the highway
Now you're burning by the side
Of the road
Arizona, Arizona
Is a million miles from Florida
Now you're history
I'm stranded
Get me out
I'm going home [x2]

Cross-posted @ Blue Wave News Roshambo in Arizona

Originally posted to PixieThis on Fri May 14, 2010 at 02:12 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)

    To keep our faces toward change, and behave like free spirits in the presence of fate, is strength undefeatable. - Helen Keller

    by PixieThis on Fri May 14, 2010 at 02:12:58 PM PDT

  •  Okay, (2+ / 0-)
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    Cenobyte, PixieThis

    now you need to post the South Park episode where the kids roshambo each other.  LOL!  "I'll roshambo for it."

  •  Arizona is not The Borg (4+ / 0-)

    We are not all a single mind who can say or do anything. Our legislature has been taken over by wingnuts, and our elected democratic governor left for a job in Washington, leaving us at the mercy of crazy people, temporarily until the next election when hopefully we will elect another dem governor to keep them in check. Many people here don't agree with the law.

    •  I didn't think I implied that... (0+ / 0-)

      but sorry if you took it that way.  I'm a Californian (Northern Cal, born and raised) and we get lumped together all the time for a variety of things and I don't take offense.  Because I'm my own person, with my own mind.  I'm mocking the law, not the citizens.  The "Arizona" in my blog is the laws of AZ, not the citizens of AZ.

      Never, never, never in my life have I assumed or intended to imply that people who live in the same state/city, etc. are somehow like minded.  Point out the passage that clearly defines that I believe you all think alike and approve of the crappy laws that are being passed and I'll edit this blog.  

      To keep our faces toward change, and behave like free spirits in the presence of fate, is strength undefeatable. - Helen Keller

      by PixieThis on Fri May 14, 2010 at 02:24:14 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  We're pulling for you sane Arizonans, CS! (2+ / 0-)
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      PixieThis, CS in AZ

      The overwhelming consensus of 2,000+ scientific experts from the IPCC& 18 US scientific assns: climate change is happening and is a growing threat to our wo

      by Cenobyte on Fri May 14, 2010 at 02:31:47 PM PDT

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    •  Here's the link to the Rachel interview with the (1+ / 0-)
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      CS in AZ

      real Sheriff of Santa Cruz County, Antonio Estrada (@ 5:30), who expresses his sane and compassionate viewpoint.

      The lead up to the Sheriff's interview features the John McCain ad which shows McCain and another sheriff, not from the border area of Santa Cruz County.

      This is a long clip but worth watching. Apologies...I haven't figured out how to embed MSNBC vids:

      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...

      If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library? Lily Tomlin

      by msmacgyver on Fri May 14, 2010 at 02:58:44 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks! Pima county sheriff Dupnik has also been (2+ / 0-)
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        buddabelly, msmacgyver

        very outspoken in rejecting this law and he said that he will not enforce it, because it puts his department in a no-win situation. He basically told Arpaio and Brewer to take a hike. I love it. So glad I live in the blue part of AZ!  

        •  It's encouraging to see law enforcement officials (1+ / 0-)
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          CS in AZ

          coming out against the law and giving good reasons for their position.  I was so impressed with Sheriff Estrada and very touched by his comments about those who are living in poverty and hoping for a chance to work.

          McCain is a disgrace and even though his opponent is the worst of the two options, I hope McCain gets kicked to the curb.

          What's your sense about the McCain campaign?

          If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library? Lily Tomlin

          by msmacgyver on Fri May 14, 2010 at 04:01:21 PM PDT

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          •  McCain is a disaster and an embarrassment to (2+ / 0-)
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            our state. I think he is more vulnerable now than he ever has been before because of his terrible presidential campaign and obvious pandering and waffling on everything, although it's still probably unlikley Hayworth will actually defeat him. But at this point anything is possible.

            What I've been waiting for is a real Dem challenger to him. Since the immigration law passed, a new contender jumped in -- Randy Parraz. He's been actively fighting Arpaio for years (google him for some stories about his protests and activism) and he seems serious about his challenge, even though he's never run for office before. So I'm hopeful we might actually have a chance to dethrone McCain this year.

            •  Now, THAT's good news, but not for McCain :) (1+ / 0-)
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              CS in AZ

              Not only is he an embarassment, but he is also such an absentee senator, I'm surprised he's been able to keep his job.  He has campaigned for president for almost a decade and is more out of touch with issues and legislation than most of the Rethugs.

              He has latched on to Scott Brown in a way which is very disconcerting and if you go to the Senate Committee on Homeland Security site, you will see that Brown managed to get himself on that committee.

              I do hope that a solid Dem contender will get in the game and it would be a real show of voter outrage if a Dem could take the seat.

              If truth is beauty, how come no one has their hair done in the library? Lily Tomlin

              by msmacgyver on Fri May 14, 2010 at 04:23:35 PM PDT

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  •  Gov. Brewer (1+ / 0-)
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    tear down this wall!

  •  illegals (0+ / 0-)

    disclosure: mother's family had a mexican land grant. they moved to arizona when it was still mexico. dad's family are johnny-come-latelys. they didn't come here until 1892.

    i divide my time between cochise and pinal counties in arizona. several weeks ago a rancher was murdered, ostensibly by illegals in cochise county. last week, a deputy sheriff was shot by mexican drug mules in the pinal county desert. rick sanchez [cnn] had to interrupt his criticism of arizona to report the second shooting.

    near the border, we often hear gunfire late at night. we used to cross the border for dinner and drinks but no more. it's a war zone over there and it's spilling into the usa. a lady friend showed me bullet holes in her trailer, i've watched groups of illegals swarm the border at nogales and seen coyotes picking up others in the desert near naco. even environmentalists are complaining about damage to the desert. let's be clear it's a flood of illegals.

    former gov. janet nopalitano threatened to sue the federal govt for the costs of dealing with illegals. hospitals have to raise costs and threaten to shut their doors because of this flood. social services, enforcement and incarceration feel the pressure at a time when we're having trouble taking care of our own citizens. so the legislature said, "if the federal govt won't do their job, we'll empower local authorities to detain illegals." i don't know if it will help but something needs to be done.

    people say asking for someone's papers smacks of nazi germany. it's an interesting comparison since a foreigner in mexico is often asked for his papers and mexico allied themselves with nazi germany during ww2. i've paid "la mordida" [bribes] more than once to avoid a mexican jail. of course, mexicans are a bit disingenuous anyway since illegally entering mexico is a felony, punishable by up to 10 years in a mexican prison.

    there's nothing racist about requiring legal entry into either country. mexico doesn't want poor, uneducated people entering their country and have financial requirements for immigrants. moreover, it is difficult to obtain a work permit in mexico. why don't we adopt the mexican law?

    personally, i hope everyone boycotts arizona. there are too many people here now. and i hope immigration laws are enforced properly on both sides of the border.

    so, how about the new law allowing arizonans to carry a concealed firearm? i like that law too.

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