[Important Update: Googie just falsely accused me of being a shill for Alex Jones
You. Are. Obviously. (3+ / 0-) A. Shill. For. Alex Jones. And. Glenn. Beck. Illuminati? Skull. And. Bones?.
This is a patently false statement and I can prove it but it will require violating the FAQs. Anyone who knows my writings is aware that there is no one more Critical of Alex and Steven Jones than me. Period end of story. Authorize me to violate the FAQ and I will prove it.]
Thank you for not deleting either the first diary now in Footnote [2] or the Update below.
I am encouraged, maybe there is a way for me to present new ideas to this community. Yesterday someone liked my quote from Don Marquis
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you."
DWG wants the original diary text which I deleted to make room for the explanation as to why two diaries were posted yesterday (subsequently deleted). See Footnote [2]. Oh and by the way I am a horrible person to have taken the 4 hours to post this information.
Members of the Dailykos Community are suffering from Cognitive dissonance (CD).
CD is the discomfort felt at the discrepancy between what you already know or believe, and new information or interpretation that contradicts a strongly held belief system – It’s that queasy feeling that rises in your gut and screams, I DON’T BELIEVE THAT!
But the CD isn’t over the events of 9/11. The official story of 9/11 is so stupid Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld didn’t expect anyone at DailyKos to actually believe it:
Nineteen fanatical Arab hijackers, masterminded by an evil genius named Osama bin Laden, crash airplanes into steel skyscrapers because they “hate our freedom to consume” and inexplicably on 9/11 jet fuel, which is basically kerosene that burns at about 400c, took on the qualities of an explosive demolition agent, vaporizing 70 tons of aircraft into a puff of smoke and causing 110-story buildings to collapse into a pile of rubble.
The comments in footnote [1] from Kos members prove no one here is that stupid.
No, the CD at DailyKos is over the election of Democrats, Obama and the Social Justice movement (responsible for our sense of entitlement – “I deserve Social Security and a free Internet”) in America.
To admit you were ”had,” or ”conned,” in this case for helping Democrats and in particular Barack Obama to get elected to President results in the discomfort of CD and therefore to protect your mental health you cling to an irrational belief that your voices were heard in 2008 and made a difference:
[Excerpt from “I had a dream.” It was 2008 and Barack Obama was elected the 44th President of the United States.
Even with evidence to the contrary, Americans believe government is suppose to take care of them because "it's their job." In an environment of homelessness, poverty and suffering, Americans will forget their 60 years of unprecedented prosperity--at the expense of the Third World and the environment, and as propagated by the CIA--and look for someone to blame.
But they won't find a Bush, Clinton or even a Ronald Reagan in Washington. Instead, sitting in the Oval Office will be Barack Obama, a 21st century Martin Luther King, telling us to return to our homes, cars or tent cities. The newest leader will, in fact, be followed because this time Americans believe their voices were heard. We hope and pray Obama wants to put us back to work, reclaim the American Dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth that, out of the many, we and the president are one.
Barack Obama, an unknown senator four years ago, is not one of "us." He travels in the same circles as other members of the super-secret Skull & Bones society of Yale University who pretend to be running for president every four years. The decision to make Obama Commander in Chief of the collapse was made four years ago; the November election was a formality [3].
To believe otherwise is to ignore the Bradley/Palin effect, the voting machines that flipped ballots before the voter left the booth, and the decision by John McCain to wait until his concession speech to shed the image of a nasty "grumpy old man."
In September, when the Obama campaign seemed to be slumping and their candidate's long-standing lead in the polls had evaporated, the senator's supporters openly worried that a potential victory might be slipping away. Then providence joined the campaign: the failure of the giant investment bank Lehman Brothers followed by a global financial meltdown.
"If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible, who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time, who still questions the power of our democracy," on Nov. 4, 2008 you received your answer: It did not matter who you voted for because it was already written: Barack Obama would be the President of the United States by a landslide. [End of Excerpt]
And finally an [Excerpt from Liberté, Enlightenté, Entitleté]
August 26, 1789 - “The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen” (The Declaration)
The Declaration, the quintessential Enlightenment document written by Marquis de Lafayette gave the emancipated profane a sense of entitlement to the resources of the world. [5]
Lafayette, the man who had been initiated into the Masonic fraternity by George Washington was also a member of the Jacobin Club, the radical nucleus of the French revolutionary movement.
“The Declaration of Human Rights, which was created in France and gradually adopted around the world, was discussed, conceived and written in Masonic lodges before being released to the public. One can retrace those Masonic origins by the use of symbols, who bear little significance to the profane but extremely important to the initiate.” Jacques Ravenne , a pseudonym of a high- ranking French Freemason and author with intimate knowledge of the history and culture of the Order.
Located in a suburb of Toulouse, the “Place de la Révolution” is probably one of the most blatant displays of Illuminati designs in existence: A huge pyramid hovering atop a map of the world conveys the message of “what is left to do” rather than “what has been done”. Sinister Sites – Illuminati Pyramid in Blagnac, France
In front of the pyramid are two bronze tablets, which shapes are very reminiscent of Moses’ 10 Commandments. Instead of the Commandments there are engraved astronomical and planetary images. The rectangle slab of bronze uniting the two tablets bears the biggest accomplishment of modern Illuminism: Declaration of Human Rights)
The Declaration contains a great deal of Masonic, Illuminist and alchemical symbols such as (starting from the top): The Eye of the Great Architect in glory, the Orobouros (snake eating its tail), the Phrygian cap (the red hat under the Ouroboros) and the fasces.
Entitleté
The profane middle class, thanks to the House of Rothschild are afflicted with The Narcissism Epidemic: Living in the Age of Entitlement [5] throughout the last 200 years, rant the same mantra:
Instead of meeting the needs of the people, the private credit monopoly of rich and predatory moneylenders are preying upon the people for the benefit of themselves.
We the people (former serfs, servants and slaves) are not only entitled to be fed, clothed and car-ed but our civil rights include being cur-ed: We are entitled to health care too!
Preoccupied with expanding our basic rights, we don’t want to know:
Why are we (in the East-West) so rich at the expense of them, who are so poor (in the North-South)? The Question of Questions
Because if we did, we might realize we have been ”had,” or ”conned,” into shopping for stuff to trash the planet.
Then we would be growing our own food, instead of sitting around Starbucks with our outsized sense of entitlement wondering if our ego will be satisfied with a new car and trying to decide if an SUV or station wagon will make us look fat or if an SUV is a fat station wagon. [End of Excerpt]
There is more but I will wait to see how this is received. Maybe I won’t be banned.
Footnote
[1] Bummer of a diary. (4+ / 0-) And in the wrong venue, per guidelines.
If you take issue with this diary (15+ / 0-) you'll be banned.
Why don't you try reading the rules, Shankopotamus?
This is just a (10+ / 0-) "clever" way of talking about something that's against the FAQ here. You should delete.
why was the command post in 7 wtc? (1+ / 0-) Something to do with campaign contributions to Rudy G? And why did David Rockefeller bend the building codes? No tinfoil needed, those questions unanswered. I'm actually unclear if even engaging in the thread is forbidden so if the superusers come out to crush me please don't ban me, I'll promise to stay in the Obama woulda-coulda-shoulda flame wars from now on.
yeah ... (0+ / 0-) I know the 9/11 stuff is banned around here, and I don't blame kos one bit see my handle for my geographic location, but the Rudy connection has always fascinated me. The rest of it ... needs more UFOs.
Since this diary has so many links (9+ / 0-)
and so much information, surely you can give one showing that MoveOn are truthers, right? Because I've never heard that before.
Please delete your diary! (2+ / 0-)
Since we're not supposed to talk about such theories on this blog and such talk can lead to banning for what ever reason. Then please don't bring it up.
--Mr. President, you have to earn my vote every day. Not take it for granted. –
This is a CT on a CT (3+ / 0-)
But as an explosives engineer you lost me when you clearly have no idea about thermite, demolitions or Physics...
Without geometry, life is pointless. And blues harmonica players suck.
by blindcynic on Wed Aug 04, 2010 at 01:34:20 PM PDT
Well, he WAS right about the jet fuel. (0+ / 0-)
It burns hot enough to melt steel.
What he forgot was that one doesn't melt (nor even weaken) structural steel box girders in the few seconds it took that jet fuel to burn up - what little didn't go up in the well-documented fireball we saw upon impact.
Some of the other points that the truthers bring up were dismissed as being "a hoot" and others got a well-used (in this diary), "This is so ridiculous it needs no commentary." As in, "I have no evidence to refute these guys." I've always preferred had evidence to dismissiveness and derision.
I'm not claiming allegiance with either camp. I'm merely critiquing the quality of this (ahem) diary.
I will say that I very much admire your, "Without geometry, life is pointless." Nice!
Celtic Merlin
Carlinist
Sorry I couldn't take your call. I'm using my cell phone to make pancakes. Please leave a message.
Right. (1+ / 0-)
While I appreciate the diarist's desire to debunk the crazy "controlled demolition" theories, his logic is backwards and scientifically illiterate.
In fact, his argument is so bad that it contradicts the actual cause of the collapses along with all the conspiracy theories. He claims that XYZ can't cause the collapse if it melts stuff rather than turning it to dust. That rules out both thermite and any other fire.
Of course, the argument is bogus because it wasn't the fires that crushed all that stuff to dust, it was the subsequent energy release of the collapse itself.
This is identical to the common truther argument of looking at the aftermath of a massive building collapse and saying "fire can't do that!" But fire didn't do that---it merely initiated the event that did that.
Linking to a news article is journalism in the same sense that putting a Big Mac on a paper plate is cooking.
[2] Diary Proof at DailyKos 6:48:34 AM August 17, 2010
Yesterday Aug 16, 2010 two diaries were deleted the first was titled
Dailykos You are the Best by DavidRobertson at 07:26:32 erased at 7:40 PM
because MB alleged that the [Diary is mostly 9/11 conspiracy theories - among other lies - and has been erased. - MB].
But it wasn’t “mostly 9/11 conspiracy theories” and really had only one purpose and that was to let us know that
The joke however is really on you guys because I figured out why the outsiders who post here put with the abuse by the "Trusted Users".
So if this isn't deleted immediately as I expect it will be, I will tell you.
But the diary was deleted before we could get the answer.
I C&P the text below and you will note most of the reference to 911 came from the KOS FAQ and comments by former trusted users at DailyKos:
"Dailykos You are the Best"
I have been coming to this site for a while. I just signed up to post a dairy last week.
I keep trying to find a reason to want to be involved with this community. The way you treat outsiders who spend their time to write something different and present new ideas is abominable.
What planet are you people on. You know you got screwed by Obama but you won't admit it. I am however, impressed at the way you rationalize that one.
--Mr. President, you have to earn my vote every day. Not take it for granted.
Then there is the FAQ and C/T. You must be joking. At least half of you believe 911 was an inside job. Look at the comments when anyone gets a chance they start up on Kos's favorite sacred cow, building 7.
What is that about. A fire jumped over three buildings and it collapsed at free fall speed.
Here are a few of my favorite comments about Building 7:
why was the command post in 7 wtc? (1+ / 0-)
Something to do with campaign contributions to Rudy G? And why did David Rockefeller bend the building codes? No tinfoil needed, those questions unanswered.
I'm actually unclear if even engaging in the thread is forbidden so if the superusers come out to crush me please don't ban me, I'll promise to stay in the Obama woulda-coulda-shoulda flame wars from now on.
yeah ... (0+ / 0-)
I know the 9/11 stuff is banned around here, and I don't blame kos one bit see my handle for my geographic location, but the Rudy connection has always fascinated me. The rest of it ... needs more UFOs.
[There was more here but I removed it because I considered it offensive]
Markos Moulitsas Zuniga in one of those coincidences that don’t happen very often, was born September 11, 1971.
And speaking 'Conspiracy Theories' in general, they are subject to ridicule and derision from the community at the very least. And what does Kos have to say about the 'controlled demolition' of WTC 7 on the anniversary of Kos’s birthday?
DailyKos accepts that the 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by agents of Al-Qaeda. It is forbidden to write diaries that:
- Refer to claims that American, British, Israeli, or any government assisted in the attacks
- Refer to claims that the airplanes that crashed into the WTC and Pentagon were not the cause of the damage to those buildings or their subsequent collapse.
Now here is what was interesting:
The joke however is really on you guys because I figured out why the outsiders who post here put with the abuse by the "Trusted Users".
So if this isn't deleted immediately as I expect it will be, I will tell you.
But the diary was deleted before we could get the answer.
Next came a diary by Joan Ingles at 08:28:01 titled “Deleted Dairies”
and was erased after a mind boggling 180 comments because MB alleged that the
[Diary is a prohibited 9/11 conspiracy theory masquerading (poorly) as thoughtful and has been erased. - MB].
That allegation was totally and completely false as you can see from text I C&P below:
Of course I didn’t have much time to read it but I don’t believe it was about 911 at all.
As I remember it talked about us being fooled by Obama and being in denial.
And then the author said he knew why writers put up with the abuse here at the site. Which as we all know can be outright mean and nasty.
There was something about the Truth about Kos and that Markos was born on September 11.
Is that really his birthday?
He said he would give us the answer if the diary wasn’t deleted.
Did anyone see the answer?
P.S. I hope this isn't deleted before I get my answer
“Deleted Dairies” generated over a hundred nonsense and ad hominem attacks with the usual pictures of people baking in their kitchen.
But again no one answered the question, Do you know why they do (authors spending time to post a Kos and take the flak)?
I don’t have that answer but I did figure out what David and his sock puppet alias were doing when he or she posted the two diaries.
So I will make you (those computer generated commentors or real commentors) an offer:
Leave this up for at least 45 minutes and I will provide the motive and the answer to the question as to why those two diaries were posted last night.