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Greece was raided by the banksters in a classic move reminiscent of the best of Boss Tweed. The result has been a financial crises, austerity, riots, a general strike, and the election of a bona fide fascist party, the Neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party, to power. Recession  and fascists would be a bad enough combination, but they have even worse problems. The government finally found time to attend to their really pressing number one problem - Blasphemy.

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On September 24th, Greece's Cyber Crimes division arrested a Pastafarian for blasphemy. link Rumor has it that Greece was once civilized, but now Prometheus, bringer of light, science and knowledge, weeps for her, while while the malificent one, malignant and malicious, garbed in priestly robes as is his wont, laughs triumphantly. In addition to all of its other troubles, Greece is a theocracy, cursed with a state religion, and a willingness to enforce that grim reality.

It is alleged that the real culprit here might be the Golden Dawn party, and not the Church. The Golden Dawn pressed for this action in the legislature and the cops , who are close to the party, carried it out. The Church has yet to disown and disavow the action however. History shows that when religion or a/the church is partnered with or identical to secular power of an autocratic ilk, there is truly hell to pay for the people (look up the Ustaša, for example). Things now look even grimmer than before for the people of Greece. I worry not about their economy, but their freedom.

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  •  Tip Jar (16+ / 0-)

    That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

    by enhydra lutris on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 09:00:56 AM PDT

  •  No no, Fascism doesn't exist anymore! (3+ / 0-)
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    enhydra lutris, corvo, melpomene1

    And it's blasphemy to say that it does!

    Waaaaait...

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 09:24:51 AM PDT

  •  Much grimmer, and with no hope in sight (4+ / 0-)
    Things now look even grimmer than before for the people of Greece. I worry not about their economy, but their freedom.
    My son says the talk is that there will be another election coming. He said, it is just so bad there, that even a revolution would not be that surprising.

    Which would mean ultimately, another military take-over for Greece, as social order breaks down, and the country becomes ungovernable.

    That of course is a worst case scenario, in my opinion, but if people have no hope of their lives improving..

    "Who are these men who really run this land? And why do they run it with such a thoughtless hand? David Crosby.

    by allenjo on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 09:26:38 AM PDT

  •  This probably won't make me too popular... (4+ / 0-)

    but a fair number of Greece's problems are self-inflicted. The Greek Government deliberately hid the extent of its budget deficits (and accumulating debt) before the crash rather than actually write and enforce a tax code worth a damn, and now they - and their people, sadly - are paying the price of this.

    Do I feel that the troika-imposed austerity is the solution? Hell no - the better way out would be to actually have a workable, enforceable tax code - that will do more to balance the budget than a dozen austerity programs. The austerity isn't going to help anyone except the creditors - who, to be fair, did lend their money in good faith.

    But to claim Greece as a victim of a premeditated bankster hit'n'run is stretching it just a bit.

    •  Having said that, (3+ / 0-)

      it's certainly not a good sign that the Greek Government is wasting its time (and its slender political capital) on silly, anti-freedom things like this. Not a good sign at all.

    •  The creditors, to be fair, did not do anything (3+ / 0-)
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      in good faith. The banksters attacked Greece triggering the initial debt crisis back about the same time that the mortgage backed securities fiasco was breaking. It was written up in the news. Greece was gamed.

      That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

      by enhydra lutris on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 10:54:26 AM PDT

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      •  How does one force another to assume debt (2+ / 0-)
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        enhydra lutris, erush1345

        the latter's net income cannot support, and they know it?

        •  I forget the exact game they played, I believe (1+ / 0-)
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          they used concerted massive shorts, including naked shorts, to cause a huge simultaneous devaluation of the existing debt, currency and credit rating of Greece. Devaluing those three in conjunction forces the issuance of additional debt at rates horrendously unfavorable to the target of the attact which the attackers then buy up (in addition to the originally outstanding debt that they were able to buy up for a song. If you are honestly at all interested in what was done you can research it, it was widely publicized at the time. If it were done in the US, to a US company, it would violate our securities laws, but, globally, it can be used to bring just about any small economy to its knees..

          That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

          by enhydra lutris on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 03:10:26 PM PDT

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        •  It's easy to do, not a mystery. (0+ / 0-)

          This is how you game it.

          You're a corporation who sells, say, military weaponry to foreign countries. This is what you do:

          1. Find politicians/cabinet ministers to bribe.
          2. Roll the bribe into the cost of the contract.
          3. If you're the CEO and you also sit on the board of a big bank, all the better.
          4. After the cabinet approves the contract, make sure your buddies at the bank sop up all the bonds at that countries next auction, no matter the cost.
          5. When the deal goes bad, stick the taxpayers with the losses.

          All this happened.

          1. A Greek defense minister got $2 billion in bribes over his short tenure to approve the purchase of military weaponry, over $200 million on one deal alone.

          2. Siemens and Thyssen Kruppe rolled the cost of bribe into the multi-billion dollar contract.

          3. The CEO of Siemens was a board member of Deutsche Bank.

          4. The week after the contract was signed, DB monopolized a Greek bond offering of $3B.

          5. Now, what do we have? Greek taxpayers "forced" by virtue of corrupt multinationals and gov't ministers into the loan. German taxpayers (but really, it's not the Germans, because Germany only funds 30% of the bailout, it's really Finnish and Austrian and Dutch taxpayers whose banks never got involved with Greece) will eventually get hit with the Greek default (all rerouted to banks like DB to pay for bad loans) that will surely come.

          Here's a diary I wrote about this sham and fraud and money-laundering (call it whatever). Actually, it's best described as a vendor-financing scam. The executives and gov't ministers are enriched. But the people pay the bill.

          http://www.dailykos.com/...

          There are two kinds of people in this world. The kind who divide the world into two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

          by upstate NY on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 07:54:36 AM PDT

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    •  This is a canard (0+ / 0-)

      and I know it's a very popular one, but it's just not true.

      Nick Malkoutzis dealt with this a while back. read here:

      http://insidegreece.wordpress.com/...

      The reason this canard is perpetrated is evident to me. It's done so that people will say, "The banks didn't know, the Greeks lied." It's done to give money to the banks.

      There are two kinds of people in this world. The kind who divide the world into two kinds of people, and the kind who don't.

      by upstate NY on Mon Oct 01, 2012 at 07:56:29 AM PDT

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