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In yet another stunning display of the Romney campaign betting on the stupidity of the American people, today Paul Ryan steadfastly refused to offer any specifics on Romney's tax plan in an interview with Fox News' Chris Wallace. His reason? "It would take me too long to go through all the math." Yes, he actually said that. We're just supposed to trust him.

Ryan insisted that Romney's tax plan would not cost $5 trillion over 10 years, as one study concluded, but would be "revenue neutral." Yet despite repeated questioning from Wallace about how he and Romney would make that happen, Ryan refused to answer this basic and critical question.

“It’s revenue neutral… Lower all Americans’ tax rates by 20 percent,” Ryan replied.

“Right, how much will it cost?” Wallace pressed. “It’s not revenue neutral unless you take away the deductions.”

“I won’t get into a baseline argument with you because that’s what a lot of this is about,” Ryan explained.

Huh?? WTF is Ryan talking about? Wallace asks Ryan a simple question about how they plan to pay for all the tax deductions, and Ryan responds with some gibberish about getting into a "baseline argument," whatever that means. And it seemed to me that Wallace was asking him simple questions, not arguing with him. Whatever.

The Ryan inanity continues:

“We’re saying, limited deductions so you can lower tax rates for everybody. Start with people at the higher end. … And every time we’ve done this - whether it was Ronald Reagan working with Tip O’Neil, the idea from the Bowles-Simpson commission on how to do this - there’s been a traditional Democrat and Republican consensus: lowering tax rates, broadening the tax base works.”
Really Paul?? There's complete bipartisan consensus on this? Not really:
A new study by the non-partisan Congressional Research Service (CRS) using data from the past 65 years found that there is no correlation (PDF) between top tax rates and economic growth.
But I digress. To his credit, Wallace continued to push Ryan on his BS:
“But you haven’t given me the math,” the Fox News host pressed.

“I don’t have the time,” Ryan laughed. “It would take me too long to go through all the math."

You dumb people you. (And by the way, don't you hate Ryan's sniveling, condescending laugh?) Teh awful continues:
"But let me say it this way, you can lower tax rates by 20 percent across the board by closing loopholes and still have preferences for the middle class for things like charitable deductions, for home purchases, for health care. So what we’re saying is, people are going to get lower tax rates.”
So there you have it. Romney-Ryan will reduce everyone's taxes by 20 percent and keep all the tax deductions everyone loves by simply by closing those loopholes! Puppies for everyone!

Ryan was supposed to be the intellectual giant, the numbers guy, the policy wonk. Yet he can't offer up even one number about how the Ryan-Romney (oops, I mean the Romney-Ryan) tax plan will work? Really?

The only time Ryan showed his hand even a wee bit was in this exchange with Wallace:

“If - just suppose - that the doubters are right, President Romney takes office the math doesn’t add up… what’s most important to Romney?” Wallace asked. “Would he scale back on the 20 percent tax cut for the wealthy?”

“No,” Ryan said.

“Would he scale back and say, ‘OK, we’re going to have to raise taxes for the middle class?’” Wallace continued. “What’s most important to him in his tax reform plan?”

“Keeping tax rates down,” the vice presidential candidate remarked. “That’s more important than anything.”

Well, we all know what that means. When Romney-Ryan's math doesn't add up, which it won't, they will absolutely, positively, never, ever raise taxes on the wealthy. Ryan has made that crystal clear. So it doesn't take a math genius to know what the only other alternative is: spending cuts. Cuts to Medicare. Cuts to Medicaid. Cuts to education. Cuts to Social Security.

Here's a video of the interview, if you can stomach watching it:

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  •  Your theory intrigues me. Let's see the math. (5+ / 0-)

    No, Mr. Ryan, we do not accept "It's very complicated" as shorthand for the actual equations.

    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 09:38:37 AM PDT

  •  "We have all the time in the world. Get splaining (3+ / 0-)
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    davidkc, Empower Ink, Kansas Born

    That's what I would say.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 09:43:15 AM PDT

  •  That doesn't sound like tax simplification... (4+ / 0-)

    Paul Ryan:
    “It would take me too long to go through all the math."

    More likely he can't do that math. Nobody can do the math because it doesn't add up!

    A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by notrouble on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 09:44:35 AM PDT

  •  I can explain in 30 seconds (4+ / 0-)

    It will be whatever the Koch Family believes works best for them.

  •  Romney and Ryan had the opportunity to make this (3+ / 0-)

    election a collective choice between two competing visions, and sets of ideas for governing a nation, and world. Instead, they choose to trivialize it into an "Anyone But Obama" campaign that has not worked due to their own personal weaknesses and failures.

    So, now after reducing to themselves to caricatures of lying, shallow deceptive weasels they want to blame media, Democrats, and anyone but themselves that they have not galvanized a national debate of big ideas.

    But, the magical wishful thinking never ends, as we are being prepared for the incredible turnaround dance Mitt Romney is going to do on Wednesday, where he pulls a rabbit out of his hat and convinces voters he is a better choice.

    Without any ideas, or substantive plans what kind of magic dance would Romney have to do to accomplish this?  Maybe he could astonish viewers by pulling Paul Ryan out of his ass, but even a trick of this magnitude would probably not help them in the polls.

    In this election, the American voters have recognized these two fraudulent con men for who they are.

    The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

    by HoundDog on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 09:48:28 AM PDT

  •  Goes right along with the health care bill (0+ / 0-)

    that was too long for Republicans to read.  Pretty soon Republicans will regress to kindergarten.

    “when Democrats don’t vote, Democrats don’t win.” Alan Grayson

    by ahumbleopinion on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 10:07:38 AM PDT

  •  Paul Ryan is a role model (1+ / 0-)
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    Empower Ink

    I hope his fans try this approach in their lives.

    Taxes too complicated? Send a note to the IRS letting them know you don't have time to explain your taxes and deductions, but that it's revenue neutral.

    Expense report due? Explain to your boss that your receipts were too complicated to compute but in fact, you're due a surplus.

    Need to create a department budget? Do it the Paul Ryan way.

    Freedoms + tax cuts - services = revenue neutral. Details to follow after receipt of revenue.

    The choice of our lifetime: Mitt Romney, It Takes A Pillage or President Barack Obama, Forward Together.

    by FiredUpInCA on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 10:15:16 AM PDT

  •  Monorail monorail monorail (0+ / 0-)

    When I read that Paul Ryan answer, I read it in the voice of monorail salesman Lyle Lanley telling Lisa,

    "Young lady that’s the most intelligent question I’ve ever been asked. Oh I could give you an answer but the only ones who would understand it would be you and me - and that includes your teacher."
    Just can't quite figure out why...
  •  I had thought (1+ / 0-)
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    Teh Base should be out there starbursting at Sarah-in-Trousers' every move? I don't see lots of MSM reporting of his rock star-like crowds?

  •  Deficit spending (0+ / 0-)

    Another goddamn war.  Emergency budgets.  Off record spending.  Crash, bailouts.  Military spending over the top.  

    What's the mystery?  We've seen it before.  Recently.  

    When a republican is in the white house, deficits don't matter.  QED

    How many wrongs does it take to make a right?

    by pdknz on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 11:01:12 AM PDT

  •  The dog ate my homework (0+ / 0-)

    I had to go to my grandmother's funeral.

    The gardeners cut the cable when they were rototilling and I couldn't get online.

    The power went out and the alarm clock reset and didn't go off.

    I left it in the back seat of the car, but while we were in Wal-Mart, someone broke into the car and stole it.

    Terrorists set off a roadside bomb and blew it up.

    Grandpa cast a spell and it turned into a bat and flew away.

    My octopus crawled out of the fish tank and sat on it and squirted ink all over it.

    Some unhinged people in three-cornered hats took it down to the harbor and threw it into the bay.

    Baboons escaping from the zoo found it and tore it into a billion pieces.

    I had it on the hood of the car and a gust of wind took it and it landed where they were putting down new asphalt and the steamroller flattened it into the roadbed.

    The Jews did it.

    The crazy old man down the street put it through his leaf mulcher.

    A peregrine falcon swooped down on me and ripped it out of my hand and took it up to the 82nd floor of the Chrysler building to make a nest.

    And of course the most reasonable explanation of all: Aliens abducted me and performed cerebral-rectal transposition surgery.

  •  Here we see Ryan (a.k.a. The Butcher) explaining (1+ / 0-)
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    alefnot

    some of the mathematical skills necessary to understand his budget and why lesser mortals are so slow at grasping it:
    ==============
    The Beaver brought paper,portfolio, pens,
    And ink in unfailing supplies:
    While strange creepy creatures came out of their dens,
    And watched them with wondering eyes.

    So engrossed was the Butcher, he heeded them not,
    As he wrote with a pen in each hand,
    And explained all the while in a popular style
    Which the Beaver could well understand.

    "Taking Three as the subject to reason about--
    A convenient number to state--
    We add Seven, and Ten, and then multiply out
    By One Thousand diminished by Eight.

    "The result we proceed to divide, as you see,
    By Nine Hundred and Ninety Two:
    Then subtract Seventeen, and the answer must be
    Exactly and perfectly true.

    "The method employed I would gladly explain,
    While I have it so clear in my head,
    If I had but the time and you had but the brain--
    But much yet remains to be said.

    "In one moment I've seen what has hitherto been
    Enveloped in absolute mystery,
    And without extra charge I will give you at large
    A Lesson in Natural History."

    In his genial way he proceeded to say
    (Forgetting all laws of propriety,
    And that giving instruction, without introduction,
    Would have caused quite a thrill in Society),
    =
    ==============

    "A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. There are traps everywhere ". C. S. Lewis

    by TofG on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 11:51:24 AM PDT

    •  Hmm, so if Ryan had mapped out his plan (0+ / 0-)

      would he have brought

      ...a large map representing the sea
      Without the least vestige of land.
      And the crew were much pleased when they found it to be
      a map they could all understand.

      "What's the use of Mercator's North Poles and Equators,
      Tropics, Zones, and Meridian Lines?"
      So the Bellman would cry, and the crew would reply
      "They are merely conventional signs!"

      "Other maps have such shapes, with their islands and capes,
      But we've got our brave Bellman to thank!"
      So the crew would protest "that he's bought us the best:
      A perfect and absolute blank!"

      (If that didn't make sense, well, details are a little wonky. And would take too long to explain)

  •  How long does it take to say (0+ / 0-)

    "We made it up.   It's all bullshit.  Vote for us because we're rich white people and we'll do anything to make ourselves richer"?

    Everything there is to know about the GOP: They're the Bad Guys.

    by Troubadour on Sun Sep 30, 2012 at 12:07:47 PM PDT

  •  Paul Ryan sounds like the hunting of the snark... (0+ / 0-)

    "The method employed I would gladly explain,
         While I have it so clear in my head,
      If I had but the time and you had but the brain -
         But much yet remains to be said.
              -- The Hunting of the Snark, Lewis Carol

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