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First things first.  After my last diary was placed in 'Trolls", I vowed to never diary again.  I'm watching the polls and the other outward signs here in Florida that the POTUS is slipping here.  Folks are placing blame on the debate, Romney's lies, etc, etc.  I'm going to tell you what's happening as I see it.

I am a registered 'No Party Affiliation' voter here in Florida.  I almost always vote for the Democrat in the race, so deride my registration choice if you please, but it's not relevant to this election.  This election cycle I have donated to the President's reelection fund, much more abundantly than I have ever donated to any candidate in history ( note, a period of poverty that lasted years made some years devoid of any contributions).  Anyway, as a NPA registered voter, I am the 'target' that both sides should be courting for votes in this very divided partisan swing state where the 'independents' and the 'undecideds' (I'm not), will probably decide who takes the state.

Each and every day I get a pile of crap in my mailbox from the far right trying to sway my vote with lies and mischaracterizations of the President's record.  I have yet to receive one, JUST ONE, mailer from any group supporting the President or from the Presidents own campaign, except for reactions to my contributions asking for more funding (which I understand).  So, if I am just like every other NPA voter in this swing state of Florida, I have to ask "What the hell?"

Daily I get mailers from a group named 'Americans for Tax Reform'.  Sounds innocuous, right?  Can you say Grover Norquist?

Americans for Tax Reform
1920 L Street NW - Suite 200
Washington DC 20036
Website: www.atr.org

Established: Americans for Tax Reform was founded in the mid-80s inside the Reagan White House. Norquist was tapped to head the group as an in-house operation to build support for the 1986 tax reform bill.
President/Executive Director: Grover Norquist
Finances: $3,912,958 (2004); ATR is a 501(c)(4) organization.

Florida is full of seniors. Norquist's front group's most prevalent lie?  That Obama robbed $716 Billion from medicare.  Their slick mailers highlight 'quotes' from reputable news sources but when you actually follow them back, you find that some right wing propagandist has been successful in stating a republican talking point as 'fact' and getting it quoted in that source that Norquist's group now publishes as a 'fact' from the reputable source: hence, people believe it!  Or worse yet, one of the right wing's 'think tanks' did a 'study' and got traction in the news about it and they cite that as a 'fact'.

ATR is not just attacking Obama here, either, it's lying and attacking Senator Bill Nelson with the same lies and the same tactics.

Norquist is getting away with lying to the swing voters in Florida and apparently is not even being challenged with anything by anyone to refute his lies.  Why?  What the hell?  Obama For America, are you listening?  Democrats are you listening?  Do you know what type of crap is being placed in the mailboxes of voters you need every day? Lies that apparently you don't even try to refute?

Ok.  I'm done now.  For all of those who did label me a 'Troll ' after my last diary causing me to vow to you that I would never diary again, apologies.  This had to be exposed and needs confrontation NOW.  I'll go back under my bridge now.

Do nothing if you wish, but here's who is getting away with lying to the voters the President needs to be persuading.

Romney's hatchet men.

UPDATE:  here's a good reference to the most recent polls here, and I'll 'plug' another diarist:
Friday Swing State Polls Analysis

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  •  Tip Jar (23+ / 0-)

    I condemn Mitt Romney for political opportunism in exercising his free speech rights to criticize America's leaders during a foreign crisis. Wow, I guess I just apologized for Mitt Romney being an ass.

    by emsprater on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:13:38 AM PDT

  •  IF FL is slipping, i think a good debate by Obama (4+ / 0-)

    could turn it right back around.

    •  You could address the content of the diary (8+ / 0-)

      even if you disagree with it.   What ABOUT direct-mail targeting?  

      My thought was that the diarist's mail is skewed by what each campaign knows abou him -- the Obama campaign, that he is a contributor (hence already convinced, except maybe to give even more), and the Republicans, that he is registered as No Party Affiliation (hence vulnerable to lies about taxes).

      "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

      by lgmcp on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:23:22 AM PDT

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      •  A great idea is to go to BarackObama.com and (12+ / 0-)

        notify the campaign about this and suggest some direct mailers to be sent from the campaign.

        I think the best bet is to

        1. Call or email the Florida Democratic Party about this.

        2.  Email the Obama campaign or post this on the Obama campaign blog.

        3. If you go to BarackObama.com and type in your zipcode, listing of events and OFA office nearest each of us.  Go the next meeting and make suggestions.

        There are big GOTV activities for Obama going on this weekend, go to these in Florida and talk about this with the local campaign office.

        Follow PA Keystone Liberals on Twitter: @KeystoneLibs

        by wishingwell on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:29:11 AM PDT

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        •  Thanks. (3+ / 0-)
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          bluedust, blueoasis, quill

          Actually I was at the OFA office in Daytona Beach last week.

          I'm not one for doing much more than contributing, showing my bumper stickers and yard signage.

          I condemn Mitt Romney for political opportunism in exercising his free speech rights to criticize America's leaders during a foreign crisis. Wow, I guess I just apologized for Mitt Romney being an ass.

          by emsprater on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:37:55 AM PDT

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          •  You are not comfortable phone banking, that is OK (1+ / 0-)
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            luckylizard

            sometimes if you ask if there is anything you can do. they may suggest something and pick what you most want to do.
            Sometimes just offering rides to the polls and giving OFA your phone number is a great way to help. As they get calls Election Day and the days before from people needing rides to vote. They then go to their volunteer rides sheet and call people.

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            by wishingwell on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:16:15 PM PDT

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        •  Are you saying OFA doesn't know about this mailing (1+ / 0-)
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          emsprater

          s? I'd be surprised...else what are they doing?

          "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

          by tuma on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 02:01:47 PM PDT

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      •  Do you read your junk mail? (3+ / 0-)

        Me, neither.

        •  Ha! But, (1+ / 0-)
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          emsprater

          I do sorta weigh it just to estimate who is spending how much.  Then I tut-tut when people I'm already giving money to, waste that money sending me glossy flyers to vote for them.  

          Also I take a good look at the glossies for "non-partisan" races, to try to suss out what those would-be judges and commission members are really getting at.

          "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

          by lgmcp on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 12:18:47 PM PDT

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  •  I doubt it's these fliers (2+ / 0-)
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    I sort of think that Obama's debate has more to do with it than the mailers. The GOP has been using that line since 2010, and the dems have been hitting back with the good stuff in the ACA (no donut holes, no cuts to real medicare, etc) and the gutting voucherizing Ryan budget.  

    Last week, all this stuff had been out there for months... and Obama had a lead.

    What changed things was Obama's debate.

    Which means,  he can change it back.

    He just needs to be ....

    Fired up and ready to go!

  •  Thank you (7+ / 0-)

    I don't get any crap from Grover Norquist and that sorry lot. This is interesting. What happened to AARP educating the seniors on the truth about Medicare?

    I hope OFA has mailers to counter the lies. This is maddening.

    •  Exactly! Where art thou, oh AARP??? (4+ / 0-)

      I thought AARP was supposed to be FOR educating seniors about the issues, in particular SS and Medicare.

      What gives?

      What separates us, divides us, and diminishes the human spirit.

      by equern on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:42:12 AM PDT

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      •  I am a member of AARP... (3+ / 0-)
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        emsprater, pistolSO, luckylizard

        ....and I have received three mailings in the past 5 weeks regarding Social Security and Medicare, and the mailings were well done!

        •  I'm a member too ... (1+ / 0-)
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          blueoasis

          all of my mailings have been the petitions to send back to all the congresscritters.  I did that once before and wound up on Rubio's mailing list as a result, receiving a from letter from him telling me absolutely nothing.

          I condemn Mitt Romney for political opportunism in exercising his free speech rights to criticize America's leaders during a foreign crisis. Wow, I guess I just apologized for Mitt Romney being an ass.

          by emsprater on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 12:09:18 PM PDT

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        •  So am I -- and I haven't ... (1+ / 0-)
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          blueoasis

          Now, truth be told ... I have an NYC address ...  and if the AARP had set it's  BiNonPartisanship(tm) aside to actually support the party that is offering seniors the  better deal -- downstate NY is probably not the best use of money.  Democrats have the lock, here.

          (Of course it might be money well spent to show NY's AARP members that AARP is capable of taking a pro-senior side, not tied to selling luxury travel, annuities, and insurance products. But, presumably AARP has business professionals capable of calculating that sort of thing)

          But, the last few AARP magazines DID offer  less "evenhanded"  viewpoints on ACA, Medicare, and Medicaid than it's been doing in previous years.

          But it's the crying shame of the world that AARP is still regarded as an "advocacy" group for Seniors.

          With friends like that ... we're on our own.

      •  I have read everything they mail me (0+ / 0-)

        about th eissues, and almost all of the time, the choice they make just happens to be on the Obama side of things.

  •  Please prove Florida is slipping away b/c (9+ / 0-)

    The only polls that give Romney big margins there are GOP polls and even funnier is that all of a sudden there is a flurry of these polls out of Florida starting off with the Suffolk comment earlier this week that got criticized by other professional posters. Plouffe himself said that the Mason Dixon poll was 'impossible'. If Plouffe openly sh*tcans that poll then I am going to take anything the GOP says out of there w/ a big grain. Remember Romney has to win FL just to stay in the game, he HAS to look viable there. I don't doubt it's close there or that he may have an edge but all the R-leaning pollsters suddenly pulling these FL numbers at the same time and Plouffe's quote... not buying it.

    If I knew it was going to be that kind of party, I'd have stuck my ---- in the mashed potatoes! - Paul's Boutique

    by DoctorWho on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:25:08 AM PDT

    •  Intrade has FL for Romney, at 61 (3+ / 0-)
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      FL was always going to be close, and the debate made it closer.

      And you're correct about Romney needing to win FL; the President doesn't.

      Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project. www.hamiltonproject.org

      by PatriciaVa on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:36:51 AM PDT

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      •  Intrade goes by the polls, right? so i all the GOP (1+ / 0-)
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        PatriciaVa

        leaning pollsters are calling it for Romney so goes intrade. BUT Nate @538 said Mason Dixon was a good pollster.
        -But we shouldn't kid ourselves...it closer than it ever was. Hope now is we don't lose more ground again...Biden helped with that yesterday....and Obama must not be seen to "lose" the next.

        "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

        by tuma on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 02:07:23 PM PDT

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    •  I'm not one to worry (6+ / 0-)

      but the Mason Dixon poll just seems out of nowhere. I'm working on GOTV communications. Just discussed the toplines with a Hispanic colleague. His response to the flip in Hispanic support was "holy sh*t."

      See, this is personal for me. I remember the crap we went through in 2000. A President Obama victory would help remove residual stench. My part of the state will provide the numbers he needs for victory, which means we have to step it up with GOTV if we can't stop the slide wherever it exists. We're already working hard as hell.

  •  Ok, right out of the gate ... (4+ / 0-)

    I'll go on record as stating I expected people to tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about.  Fine, go right on believing that if you want.  You haven't talked to my neighbors or my coworkers who have gotten the same propaganda.  It maybe a lie ( we all know it is) but they also know that if they repeat it enough and do as I described in the diary, use 'credible' ( for the people who won't research, which is much of the electorate) news sources for their lies, they chip at the President's support.

    But hey, what do I know, I'm just a near 60 something middle class blue collar white guy who doesn't ever hear what the folks I encounter every day who are against the President have to say.

    I condemn Mitt Romney for political opportunism in exercising his free speech rights to criticize America's leaders during a foreign crisis. Wow, I guess I just apologized for Mitt Romney being an ass.

    by emsprater on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:26:18 AM PDT

    •  hang in there, ems - people believe their own (5+ / 0-)

      experiences - i agree with you totally.  i've seen the difference pieces of paper make.  in '72, i was the supply coordinator for the ny office of the mcgovern/shriver campaign.  those pieces of paper were gold!

      thanks for this diary - it gives us time to still change things!

      •  Thanks. (4+ / 0-)
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        bluedust, edrie, blueoasis, quill

        This comment from you is all that convinced me not to delete my diary and leave dKos alltogether.

        Time to change the narrative was all I was hoping for.

        I condemn Mitt Romney for political opportunism in exercising his free speech rights to criticize America's leaders during a foreign crisis. Wow, I guess I just apologized for Mitt Romney being an ass.

        by emsprater on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:42:23 AM PDT

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        •  and you aren't alone! there is another diary (2+ / 0-)
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          emsprater, quill

          pointing out that florida is turning toward romney - you were the first and sometimes people don't want to believe bad news.

          don't leave - your voice is too important to be silenced!  we NEED people unafraid to say the unpopular - and, for the record, i'm getting sick of the self-righteous abuse of the troll claims, too.

          enough - and it is time for the "trolls' group to go away.  i joined in the early days and am now looking to find a way to "unjoin".  i don't like the relentless attitude that causes some to erroneous label those with whom they disagree as "trolls" - it is offensive - and this site should do better than that!

    •  So how do we get an address list (1+ / 0-)
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      emsprater

      How about a letter writing campaign - only positives.  Why we believe this president is the best option for the nation.
      It can be done.  

    •  Oh, I don't doubt it's swaying some people (1+ / 0-)
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      diffrntdrummr

      but this election doesn't come down to just what people you know say.

      I live in Dallas. There are only two yard signs in my neighborhood for Romney (one of them is the Republican precinct chair), but dozens of Obama yard signs.

      Guess what? That doesn't mean Texas is going to vote for Obama.

      Big picture.

  •  Maybe seniors can still hear and read between the (3+ / 0-)
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    emsprater, DarkestHour, blueoasis

    Lines.  The parsing on Social Security and Medicare by the Democratic Party is pathetic.  You cannot get a straight answer on benefit cuts.  We are being treated like we are idiots and dupes held hostage by BS gangs and grand bargains.

  •  eyes on the ground alerting to a starting brush (5+ / 0-)

    fire should never ever be ignored!

    thank you for posting this - and you are right - mailers - in the mail box - those are powerful.  many seniors are not computer savvy - they don't have one, don't know how to use one and are not privy to the information that we take for granted daily (well, minute by minute).

    we need an on the ground florida operation AND we need "brochures" - handouts that people can sit and read!

    that has worried me about the electronic elections - those hold in your hand pieces of paper that seniors are accustomed to reading are missing in action!

    yes, i know it costs money to print them (i was supply coordinator for the ny mcgovern campaign, i REALLY know the costs!), but the cost of losing an election is much greater!

    •  They're in my mailbox every day, too. They are (2+ / 0-)
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      emsprater, edrie

      glossy, colorful sheets with worried looking old people on them.  They are sending these out in every district in every state, and they are promoting the big lie that the Democrats are taking $716 billion away from beneficiaries.

      They can do great harm--targeting the people as you described as non-computer savvy.

      I don't think it would be beyond the pale for Obama to actually give a specific speech to seniors on national television explaining just what that $716 billion is--and is not--going to affect.

      Because the lie is scaring the seniors and disabled.

      If the plutocrats begin the program, we will end it. -- Eugene Debs.

      by livjack on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:35:57 AM PDT

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  •  The problem is Florida is not "slipping away" (11+ / 0-)

    Florida is simply close.

    As it has been. As it is expected to be. As it probably will be for the foreseeable future despite our fervent wishes.

    Now... saying it is "slipping away" is not troll worthy on its own. But it is defeatist language that will upset many because of its inaccuracy.

    And... it IS the sort of language that trolls use in an attempt to create a defeatist mindset and demoralize the ranks.

    And that is really all there is to that.

    "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:29:30 AM PDT

    •  Where in the heck did ... (1+ / 0-)
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      blueoasis

      'defeatist' language and 'defeatist mindset' come from?

      And yes, the polls do show the numbers slipping down for Obama here and up for Romney recently, I won't cite them, we all have seen them.  Yep, FL is close.  Which means that serious people should pay attention to 'noise' from folks actually here on the ground, most especially the swing group that will most likely decide the outcome.

      I condemn Mitt Romney for political opportunism in exercising his free speech rights to criticize America's leaders during a foreign crisis. Wow, I guess I just apologized for Mitt Romney being an ass.

      by emsprater on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:35:12 AM PDT

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      •  It came from your title (3+ / 0-)
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        wwjjd, elmo, diffrntdrummr

        I was trying to explain to you why you got attacked. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough in my attempt.

        Florida is not slipping away. Florida is close. As it has been. As it will be. As it has always been expected to be.

        Slipping away implies loss, losing, defeat.

        "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

        by Andrew C White on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:53:00 AM PDT

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        •  I haven't been 'attacked' (0+ / 0-)

          but there are folks telling me that I'm wrong.

          After nearly 60 years of being gay, I know the difference between being 'attacked' and being told I'm wrong.

          And I know the difference between taking the word of someone  on the ground in Florida versus someone who isn't here, on the ground,  who doesn't have open eyes, ears and first hand knowledge of what's taking place here.  I'll promise not to tell you what's happening on the ground in NY, mkay?

          YMMV.  Of course you know better, and know that the polls have showed no slip at all in the President's numbers in Florida lately, right?  

          I condemn Mitt Romney for political opportunism in exercising his free speech rights to criticize America's leaders during a foreign crisis. Wow, I guess I just apologized for Mitt Romney being an ass.

          by emsprater on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 12:06:21 PM PDT

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  •  Gee, I get mail everyday from some Democrats (1+ / 0-)
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    raincrow

    This week alone...

    Bernie Sanders,

    DNC

    Barack Obama

    Bill Clinton

    DCC

    Bob Casey.

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    by wishingwell on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:30:37 AM PDT

    •  Actual mail? In your mailbox? (2+ / 0-)
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      raincrow, blueoasis

      Made of glossy cardstock? Or a postcard?

      Because, here in Michigan, I've gotten zilch from Democrats, while I've gotten lots from Republicans and rightwing crazies.

      My email, on the other hand, is swamped.

      •  So are you changing your vote? (1+ / 0-)
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        wishingwell

        Naw.

        Just because a campaign sends out a mailer on "glossy cardstock" doesn't mean it's going to be effective.

        Calm down, folks.

      •  I just received 3 last night alone from Dems. (1+ / 0-)
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        wishingwell

        Or maybe it was 2 Dems and 1 rethug.  And I'm in Michigan.  I can't say who all the ones I've received before that were from, because I have to admit I toss them without looking at them.  

        "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

        by gustynpip on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 12:11:06 PM PDT

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      •  Well in my little corner of MI there's a shiny (1+ / 0-)
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        wishingwell

        bit of card stock in my mailbox every other damn day! From both Republicans and Democrats. I suppose I'd have to actually read them, before filing them, for them to have any effect on my vote.

        Fuck me! He made it. Will Scarlet

        by dagolfnut on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:13:45 PM PDT

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      •  Actual mail in my mailbox in letter form, not (0+ / 0-)

        fliers but letters..but then again, we are registered Democrats. I do not know if Independents are getting any mail from Democrats or not, it depends if you are on their mailing lists or contributed money before.

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        by wishingwell on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:13:46 PM PDT

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  •  Democrats do sent out mail, but it comes (3+ / 0-)
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    from a variety of sources as I listed in my post above. I must get 3 or 4 a week at least.

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    by wishingwell on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:31:18 AM PDT

  •  Yeah um, yes. (1+ / 0-)
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    raincrow

    Anyway, back to work guys!

  •  call sarah silverman! nt (1+ / 0-)
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    Kurt from CMH

    Job Crater Republicans Made Our Lives Miserable. Drop Them.

    by renzo capetti on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:42:33 AM PDT

  •  What do you think is different (3+ / 0-)
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    about direct mail vs. TV ads in terms of the impact on people's opinions?  Here in Ohio, we're getting both, and they have had only a marginal effect, I think-- they're directed at Obama and Sherrod Brown, and both are leading in the polls.  

    Do you think it's because Florida's senior population is big and that they are talking about Medicare?

    Everyone knows that a Zinger is nothing but a snack cake.

    by Kurt from CMH on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 11:50:06 AM PDT

    •  They are targeting ... (4+ / 0-)

      the folks registered as NPA. Those are the voters who have to be persuaded.  Both the Democrats and the republicans are snugly entrenched on their own sides.  The election her in Florida will be decided by the NPA voters, turnout and the amount of voter disenfranchisement the republicans can get away with.

      I was trying to bring attention to one aspect that the Democrats could work to counter, if they are at all interested.

      I condemn Mitt Romney for political opportunism in exercising his free speech rights to criticize America's leaders during a foreign crisis. Wow, I guess I just apologized for Mitt Romney being an ass.

      by emsprater on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 12:00:24 PM PDT

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    •  I think teevee ads have a big impact yet. (2+ / 0-)
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      Unless you have TIVO, you're kind of stuck watching them - over and over and over.  And repetition is effective.  Hell, I even begin thinking "Hmmm, wonder whether there's something in that?" from time to time.  What's absolutely best is seeing an ad from the good side pointing out the lies and flaws.  I've seen that happen where the rethugs put out a lie and the very next ad is the dems correcting it.  Or the dem's ad will come on first and then the lying rethug ad.  I always get a kick out of that!

      "If you trust you are not critical; if you are critical you do not trust" by our own Dauphin

      by gustynpip on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 12:14:09 PM PDT

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    •  Maybe (3+ / 0-)
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      emsprater, blueoasis, Kurt from CMH

      The discussion about Medicare is hyper-wonky and confusing. Heck, I'm confused and I work with numbers for a living. And the problem with their line of attack on Medicare is that its not a lie; ACA does remove $716 billion. Somebody above suggests that Obama should give a Medicare/SS speech targeted towards seniors and Boomers who will be retired soon enough. This talking point has to be forcefully rebutted and soon.

      •  I think Joe Biden tried to rebut it (0+ / 0-)

        in the debate last night, pointing out that the $716B savings is what they're not paying insurance companies for paying providers through Medicare Advantage.  

        Everyone knows that a Zinger is nothing but a snack cake.

        by Kurt from CMH on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 01:40:13 PM PDT

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  •  Nate Silver certainly backs up the diarist's (1+ / 0-)
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    emsprater

    premise. Cause for concern.

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/...

    "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

    by eXtina on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 03:32:16 PM PDT

    •  Thank you. I knew I wasn't crazy. (0+ / 0-)

      My opinion is that the trend Silver has identified and documented could most probably be attributed to the closing of time to make a decision and the fact that the republicans are targeting the NPA voters here.  I wish the Democrats would follow with targeting them as well, to counter the lies that are being fed to this block of voters.

      Of course, all the folks who were so quick to tell me I was 'defeatist' or wrong will still ignore even Silver.  Sadly, because we need to beat that right wing agenda.

      I condemn Mitt Romney for political opportunism in exercising his free speech rights to criticize America's leaders during a foreign crisis. Wow, I guess I just apologized for Mitt Romney being an ass.

      by emsprater on Fri Oct 12, 2012 at 06:07:06 PM PDT

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