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This is a shift from yesterday’s 50 to 47 percent for Romney. O (+1) R (-1)
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by bino123 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:07:48 AM PDT
It ain't bad news!
"How much wisdom is lost in knowledge? And how much knowledge is lost in information" -Juhani Pallasmaa
by B o o on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:09:21 AM PDT
for John McCain. ;)
by tbounnak on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:09:21 AM PDT
I swear. Everytime I see 'This is great news for John McCain', I am caught off guard and start laughing.
Anyone out there know the history behind this comment? I assume some clearly good news for Obama came out during the 2008 election and a troll tried to turn it around with that comment.
by Mr Intellichoppy on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:12:59 AM PDT
[ Parent ]
My memory is that with Mark Halperin, everything in '08 was good news for John McCain.
by NHCt on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:14:21 AM PDT
by thaddeus74 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:16:32 AM PDT
man, talk about 50 first dates!
by drainflake77 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:24:17 AM PDT
by sharman on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:02:37 AM PDT
on the entire MSM in 2008.
The Republican Party is now the sworn enemy of the United States of America.
Listen to All Over The Place - we play all kinds of music!
by TheGreatLeapForward on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:16:54 AM PDT
“This is excellent news for…”- A phrase born during the 2008 Presidential election, used by McCain supporters and media hacks such as Mark Halperin (that may be redundant), where every piece of news was considered to be good news for John McCain. The best example of this sort of counter-intuitive nonsense was Halperin, to the disbelief of the rest of the ABC Sunday morning panel, insisting that the fact that McCain could not count the number of houses he owned was actually good news for John McCain and a horrible gaffe for Obama. And no, this is not a joke- he actually said that.
by Chitown Kev on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:17:35 AM PDT
I always laugh at it when I see it in a comment, and now it is even funnier.
America is a COUNTRY, not a CORPORATION. She doesn't need a CEO. Vote Obama.
by manneckdesign on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:19:08 AM PDT
when Halperin called President Obama a "d@!k"/
by joelal on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:29:15 AM PDT
original, non-NYT version of 538 during the 2008 election.
by Wolf Of Aquarius on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:18:13 AM PDT
...and it was interpreted as "good news" for John McCain because it would make him more urgent in his campaigning. And more of that sort of thing.
it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses
by Addison on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:23:46 AM PDT
preceded the "Great news ... for John McCain" meme.
A poster named "idiotic" posted on various sites and linked back to the blog http://excellentnewsforhillary.blogspot.com/ ... starting in Feb 2008
by Obviously Bogus on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:50:06 AM PDT
I was worried there might be slight movement in Romney's direction.
When we were ahead, people at DailyKos said to fight like we were behind. When we were behind, people at DailyKos said to give up.
by NoFortunateSon on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:34:03 AM PDT
and electoral this election. i doubt it. Obama will take both
"With malice toward none, with charity for all..." -Abraham Lincoln not a modern republican
by live1 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:10:46 AM PDT
...sewn up by the end of day November 6.
Obama is the chair and James Hetfield is the table. Who is the lamp?
by alkatt on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:11:30 AM PDT
I think Gore did better than a lot of people thought. There was more talk of him winning the EC but losing the PV than there was the reverse heading into it. I think if you watched the returns 'till 4 AM as I did, it was those western states coming in that put Gore ahead.
Same thing with Kerry. That was a very tight race but I think most people thought Bush would get a more comfortable race than he did. That race essentially came down to a small amount of votes in Ohio too. It was close in the PV.
Obama I think won by more than predicted. Though most people thought he'd win headed into election day, I think it was even more decisive than thought.
Bottom line, I agree and think Obama will win like 51 to 49 with around 300 EVs.
"Deserves got nothing to do with it"-William Munny, "Unforgiven"
by GDoyle on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:26:47 AM PDT
in many of those national polls, the break down the country into a few regions. Northeast, Midwest, South, and West.
Obama is consistently winning in three of those regions, Romney always seems to be up by around 20 points in the south.
These capitalists generally act harmoniously and in concert, to fleece the people... -Abraham Lincoln
by HugoDog on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:37:45 AM PDT
than the pop vote.
Honestly I don't care about the pop, so long as we win 300 + EV's. Hell, I'll even take 271, just so long as the pathological unstable SEXIST LIAR doesn't win.
by RomneydoubleTax on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:43:59 AM PDT
That's good news it moved 2 points towards PBO. Now lets get a lead.
by GDoyle on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:10:50 AM PDT
Screams: Romney MATCHING Obama in "voter contacts"
Un-be-lievable just how far they'll go to keep Romney in this.
And Terry Moran (Mormon? Moron?) tweets: Obama's super-negative campaign DRIVING voters to ROMNEY!
The Delivery Man by Joe McGinniss Jr. [Grove/Atlantic January, 2008]
by joemcginnissjr on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:12:38 AM PDT
It also was essential unchanged when it went 50 to 47 for Romney but the headlines were different.
I'm glad Barack Obama is our President.
by TomP on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:13:19 AM PDT
went up by 3.
The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present
by Inkin on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:16:33 AM PDT
No-one else did when copy-pasting the poll
by TheKF1 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:53:37 AM PDT
A knock on the door is very different from a robocall. Heck, my mom, a lifelong Democrat, got a letter from the Romney campaign saying, "as a strong Republican supporter, please support my campaign yadda yadda...". Is that a contact too?
by Wolf Of Aquarius on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:20:30 AM PDT
from the Romney campaign! I can't for the life of me figure out why, because my donation/voting/support history is clearly and publicly Dem....unless the campaign bought a mailing list from the Archdiocese (that's my conspiracy theory anyway) and is targeting Catholics with the assumption that we're all one-issue voters. No matter how you slice it, they obvs have poorly targeted lists and they're wasting time and money on people like me and your mom.
by jenesq on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:29:09 AM PDT
saying Obama's campaign is negative and claiming that Romney is being uplifting. The entire premise of Romney's campaign is negative, saying that Obama has destroyed the country. What positive ideas does Romney have, what specific plans has he outlined? Why does the MSM buy into every single propaganda piece that the Romney campaign puts out? This has to be one of the most frustrating campaigns that I've ever seen before.
by krenicky on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:30:22 AM PDT
Ohio, Wisconsin, Nevada = 271.
We are winning!!!
by TomP on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:12:42 AM PDT
but I think he'll pull off OH+WI+NV+IA and a few others
by penultimate galactic master on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:14:06 AM PDT
or Ohio, Wisconsin, Nevada = 271.
2012 GOP Platform: "I've Got Mine, Jack."
by Yankee Patriot on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:19:57 AM PDT
"Good to be here, good to be anywhere." --Keith Richards
by bradreiman on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:41:48 AM PDT
I'm sure "Morning Joe" will be discussing Obama's momentum. Right? RIGHT?
by ncps on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:12:54 AM PDT
Yesterday they had the headline "WaPo/ABC R +3!!!" all over their "website"! "WaPo/ABC R +3!!!" I suspect today this won't get much coverage
by jjgreek on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:14:39 AM PDT
by joemcginnissjr on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:16:24 AM PDT
Tracking polls are crap.
by Inkin on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:15:37 AM PDT
49.5-47.4 to 49.4-47.5 and that would change it from 50-47 to 49-48, that's why it's not worth paying too much attention to one point movements either way. That being said, the trend is good.
by krenicky on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:32:19 AM PDT
"I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear
by eXtina on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:15:55 AM PDT
So heaven exists in coma patient's brain and Romney's winning. Which is closer to the truth? Smart money's on brain heaven.
by joemcginnissjr on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:16:03 AM PDT
- Romney after seeing tracking poll
by Frankenheimer on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:16:10 AM PDT
drop of state polls today?
The rumor mill yesterday made it sound like all the battlegrounds were breaking hard for Obama in the Purple Polls, but there's nothing about it on their website.
by penultimate galactic master on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:16:20 AM PDT
supposedly someone on "Hardball" said that yesterday but I didn't see it.
by ncps on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:17:25 AM PDT
I did not interpret Steve M. the same way that other did here. I thought he implied that some of the numbers were OK, while others not so good.
I hope I'm wrong and I think I am because everyone else on here says that I am.
Trust-Fund Kids of America Unite... save the Bush tax cuts!
by JCPOK on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:24:35 AM PDT
to McMahon didn't necesarrily come across as Obama leading in all the states. I didn't listen myself but the comments from the people who rewatched the video said he seemed to be saying he would be leading in the battleground composite and also in Colorado, Ohio and Virginia. I guess we just have to wait and see.
by Davidsfr on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:24:12 AM PDT
is pretty good as far as I'm concerned
Thanks to everybody who tracked down the program and listened carefully - I don't watch cable and I was starting to think that we'd been trolled by somebody looking to get our hopes up.
by penultimate galactic master on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:33:14 AM PDT
from Romney campaign hacks and GOPers. They might re-cook the numbers, or they may wait to release at the end of the day when the media will not pay too much attention.
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by khyber900 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:35:51 AM PDT
All the polling outfits seem to use these presidential numbers to get publicity for themselves, so I'm not sure why they would ever sit on results.
by penultimate galactic master on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:37:55 AM PDT
tread lightly with his primary customer base: Republicans.
by khyber900 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:46:43 AM PDT
by jjgreek on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:53:06 AM PDT
The Mittmentum is over....
by Dillonfence on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:22:04 AM PDT
I wish it were true, but I don't call a statistically insignificant move "cratering." That said, the national polls baffle me, because they are SO different from the state polls, and I would think that interviewing 1,000 Ohio voters would give you a better idea of what Ohio is doing than interviewing 1,000 voters nationwide would give you an idea of how the pop vote is going.
by jenesq on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:31:10 AM PDT
Denver debate? STILL?!
by SquareBoy on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:26:53 AM PDT
That's not good.
by msdrown on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:51:07 AM PDT
Every Limbaugh-listening, Tea-Party-type I know claims to be "independent." It's complete horseshit.
by jenesq on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:58:18 AM PDT
by sharman on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:09:41 AM PDT
all tied up. What a worthless pollster. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/...
by jjgreek on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:27:14 AM PDT
we're quite strong in WI, actually.
by itskevin on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:28:21 AM PDT
scenario for Dems. It gives us a sense of what would happen if no Democrats turned out. So if we turn out who we should we probably have a 3-5 point advantage there.
by krenicky on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:36:34 AM PDT
by penultimate galactic master on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:42:27 AM PDT
by jjgreek on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:51:27 AM PDT
in Kenosha, so.....
by jenesq on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:59:54 AM PDT
Don't they usually release towards the end of the day ET?
Well, Kos effectively debunked their tougher likely voter screen which is completely unjustifiable this close to the election. That tougher screen is what produced the blip in Romney's numbers, not an actual shifting or increase in support.
by khyber900 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:34:56 AM PDT
OMG Mittens numbers plunge and The President has the wind at his back in the new Post-ABC tracking poll: Romney 49, Obama 48
hmm...wasn't it just yesterday the media was extolling the momentum behind Romney and the fact he had hit 50%.
Oh and "This is not a significant shift from yesterday’s 50 to 47 percent edge for Romney, and a return to the numbers from the previous two days."
Today since he dropped in the polls the headline is
Post-ABC tracking poll: Romney 49, Obama 48 — the power of campaign contacts HUH?
What happened to 24 hours of Mittens rise to power?
Of course now that Mittens has dropped, the poll is no where to be found on ABC's website.
I just want to slap them all in the face.
A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people ... restore their government to it's true principles.
by maddrailin on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:35:13 AM PDT
They always release a favorable Romney poll to try and control the msm daily narrative. I can't take them serious at all!
Choose Hope not Hate in 2008, Reject McCain/Palin
by HouTxLib on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:49:14 AM PDT
...screaming about how Obama is losing all the white men. Did they all come back in a day?
by Elrod on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:49:51 AM PDT
that aren't just trackers? More of those would help clarify the true state of the race.
by smartguy11 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:55:10 AM PDT
Hoping for more positive movement...
Binders Full of Women for Obama
by democrattotheend on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:55:35 AM PDT
those CERTAIN to vote and what the total is for RV? Couldn't find it but maybe someone else has...
by rigso on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 09:56:33 AM PDT
I was really hoping for more positive movement, but they are back to Romney 51 Obama 46, from 50-47 yesterday. Among RV they are now tied, down from O+1 yesterday. And Obama's approval rating is back down to 48.
by democrattotheend on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:02:19 AM PDT
Dumb question, but I can't help but to ponder with these numbers that are not matching up with reality. Dems are ENTHUSED big time. I don't know why they are using these LV screens.
by HouTxLib on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:05:34 AM PDT
States like Ohio or Florida may come down to disputed ballots again, and we all know the GOP voter suppression machine is out in full force. If Romney wins the national popular vote Obama probably won't contest any states that look sketchy, but if he is ahead in the popular vote nationwide he might. I really don't think Kerry would have conceded so quickly in 2004 if Bush were not ahead in the popular vote.
by democrattotheend on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:12:12 AM PDT
That is extremely disappointing. I don't understand what is going one with Gallup. That gap should be gone by now.
by matt2373 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:05:57 AM PDT
Because as we get closer to election, enthusiasm is going up. Their LV screen needs to account for that.
by HouTxLib on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:07:35 AM PDT
They all show a drop in Obama's approval rating by 3 points.
What the heck is going on?
by matt2373 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:08:06 AM PDT
I don't know what's going on. I guess the fact that Obama has had to go so negative is taking a toll on his approval ratings. I have to agree with some of the MSM commentators who say that Obama is running too negative a campaign...it makes him look desperate when he doesn't need to, and it's not who he is and it doesn't suit him well.
by democrattotheend on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:14:43 AM PDT
by jenesq on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:11:24 AM PDT
It made me feel a lot better.
by democrattotheend on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:12:31 AM PDT
That was encouraging.
by matt2373 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:15:33 AM PDT
a respectable polling organization?
I'm a dyslexic agnostic insomniac. I lie awake at night wondering if there's a dog.
by rennert on Fri Oct 26, 2012 at 10:15:57 AM PDT
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