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Just watched a couple of hours of post-election analysis on television and I'm disgusted and frustrated by it. Chuck Todd on MSNBC, the pundits on PBS, CNN, ABC, CBS etc (no, I won't watch Fox News) dwell on the mechanics of the campaigns and the demographics.

But it's the issues that effect people, the values, the policies that are behind this. Women didn't vote for Barack Obama just because somebody found them and registered them for no reason. Hispanic voters weren't just sitting there waiting to be discovered, seeming blank slates susceptible to the clever Chicago machine. All the discussion of white males, Latinas, those young's degrading.

That's the point--Obama understands it's dignity. FIRST comes the issue: respect for all, diversity is our strength, tax fairness is just, etc. THEN comes the demographics. Is it just me? It's like the pundits think black people never would have had an opinion if they hadn't been contacted by one of the awesome, poll-tested OFA volunteers.

Don't get me wrong, I volunteered for OFA, I saw the huge bit of awesome that was the Obama campaign apparatus. But when I contact a voter, when I recruit a volunteer, it's because of ISSUES. Of VALUES. Of shared outrage at the lack of respect for voters. We care that:

  • those who work for a living have equitable pay
  • those who work for a living have tax fairness
  • those loving each other can do so with dignity
  • we have access and the right of family planning
  • those who are sick have access to healthcare
  • the environment is our inheritance and legacy to future generations
  • diversity is to be celebrated as a strength
  • voting is a right, not a privilege
  • America's foreign policy protects us, and honors human dignity

I'm sure you have issues that drew you to the Democratic party and Obama. It wasn't just that you're a certain age, race, ethnicity, or other superficial category. It's our liberal values--liberal as in liberty, freedom. Wish the pundits would talk about that instead of the awesome OFA slice and dice campaign machinations.

5:11 PM PT: Magenta below refers to a USA article that demonstrates this post-election analysisElection confirms an entrenched divide amid new political realities

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  •  Dumbest thing I read today ... (11+ / 0-)

    was in USA Today story. "Seniors were the core age group in Romney's corner, favoring him 57% to 43%, up slightly from four years ago. That's a positivefor Republicans: This older group is growing fast as the Baby Boomer generation ages."

    Because when we turn 65 that's what shifts our voting. Everything we thought; every bit of culture we were raised in; any values we had -- whoosh! out the window. I'm 65, I have to vote Republican.

    It's ridiculous. Now do I think that everyone who is a liberal at 25 will remain one at 65 or vice versa? No, people's views evolve. But generally not with a light switch. If Obama was doing OK among the 45 to 64-year-olds, the 61 to 64 year-olds aren't suddenly going to say, in four years, "Oh, well, damn, 65 now, have to change my voting patterns entirely."

    It was a damned peculiar argument. Yes, I know the Churchill quote, but really, some basic core principles generally remain. I don't think, for example, the millenials are suddenly going to realize they can't support gay marriage when they turn 30.

    by Magenta on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 04:57:56 PM PST

  •  Many DailyKos members are "older white males." (7+ / 0-)

    The endless comments on this site about the "older white males" that stand in the way of progress are mindless repetitions of right wing propaganda. It's values, not age or genetics. Values can and do change.

    •  Yes, yes, yes. (1+ / 0-)
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      It's so stupid, as if it's a Simpson's caricature of older white males. All of these demographics exist in the Democratic voting universe--they're just not getting the part of liberal values, of progressive thinking.

  •  Good Article (4+ / 0-)
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    srfRantz, George3, left turn, bethcf4p

    putting the horse before the cart. I was drawn to the Democratic party with my first vote in 1972 against the war.

    First comes the value. Exactly right.

  •  Thank you for this (5+ / 0-)

    I am SOOOO into listening to what people have to say instead of pre-judging them based on sub-conscious immediate perceptions and deeply ingrained stereotypes. I love people, bigots not so much.

  •  This is important and needs to be discussed more. (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm getting worried that too many people who fall into the progressive category are building up demographic stereotypes and resentments.  Never forget, it's about ideas and issues, not skin color, age or  other designations we can't choose.  We risk alienating many in those demographic groups that are being derided.

  •  It's about caring about people -- each other (1+ / 0-)
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    Cassandra Waites

    being good neighbors. What's my proof? This community, for starters. This diverse, amazing, frustrating, hardheaded place full of people whose common ground is that we want a better nation for everybody.

    LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

    by BlackSheep1 on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 06:07:07 PM PST

  •  It annoys me (3+ / 0-)
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    to hear myself categorized as a senior voter. I am a senior  but I am not a senior voter. I was a democrat when I first voted at 21 and I'm a democrat now at 71.

    I vote for people who have humanity, who want all people to have basic things like food, and clean water, shelter, and health care.

    The age of the haters is coming to an end. Why? Because if you hate women and you hate gays and you hate muslims and you hate blacks and you hate intellectuals and you hate anyone who doesn't subscribe to your religious beliefs, and you hate foreigners of all kinds, then it should be obvious--you will soon run out of anyone to vote for.

    You will have rendered yourself obsolete.

    Facts matter. Joe Biden

    by kpardue on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 06:50:08 PM PST

  •  Yes, I watched PBS tonight (1+ / 0-)
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    and all they talked about was the ground game, strategy, etc. Not that this part isn't interesting, it's just shallow.

    I started FUMING when they mentioned Obama's early ads (painting Romney as an out of touch Bain capitalist, etc). in a way that made it sound like Obama was just AWFULLY mean to do that, and poor Romney couldn't get his message out after that. They made it sound like aggressive trickery. I am so angry about this--what about the issue of truth? The facts? What people actually feel and think? And if what you are saying about your opponent is true, is that really what is meant by a 'negative' campaign?
    Republicans aren't shy about attacking their opponents and this is seen as strength. Like swordfighting. If we parry back though, we're mean, nasty and horrible.

    Also I notice absolutely no attention is being paid to context. It made me furious on election night too--I don't usually watch network channels and I was SHOCKED at the misinformation, the insinuations, the disrespectful tone toward the President. Really appalled.

    I love it that Obama's channeling Harry Truman: "I don't give 'em hell; I just tell the truth and they think it's hell!"

    by sillia on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 07:22:02 PM PST

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