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Short diary, and yet another election post-mortem.  We've seen some other narratives:

- We remain a 'center-right' nation.
- If not for Hurricane Sandy, we'd be winning.
- Mitt Romney was not communicating conservative values effectively [He had PAUL RYAN on the ticket, for gods sake].
- Not "really a mandate" without blue collar white males.
- It was a "close" loss i.e. a squeaker.
- Hey, if we just put Rubio on the next next ticket, and parade lots of women and hispanics around, we'll be fine.
- Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Women, etc should be a "natural GOP constituency".
- Ok, Ok, we'll do immigration reform, but no citizenship, and only after that fence goes up.
- No big deal, Obama suppressed GOP turnout, lots of whites stayed home so that's all there is to it.

Here's the newest one to watch out for--that there actually isn't any demographic change, and that 2008 and 2012 was simply support for Obama.  2016, things will rever to normal.  The number of ways that conservatives can find a way to put a crossface on reality is simply astounding.  Here:

The coalition that turned out Election night 2012 to re-elect Barack Obama is Barack Obama’s coalition. It is not Joe Biden’s coalition. It is not the Democrats’ coalition. It turned out to elect Barack Obama in 2008. It did not, despite his pleas, turn out in 2010. It will not turn out in 2014. In 2016, Joe Biden, despite his claims now, is going to be 74 and too old to make a good attempt at the Presidency. If, for some reason, he leaves office sooner than that, the Democrats are going to tear each other apart to fill the seat or the President will pick a care taker.

Either way, the odds are the Obama coalition is subject to fracture in 2016.


Third, the GOP long term does have a demographic problem, but so do the Democrats. As much as the GOP needs to improve with hispanic voters, the Democrats have a white voter problem. The GOP more likely than not has another few election cycles before the demographics with hispanics become insurmountable and, in the meantime, can find ways to reach out to them and talk to them that do not include amnesty.

First, are they really equating mid-term elections and general elections? WTF?

Second, it's clear he doesn't consider educated young urban professionals, or women white, even though they vote Democrats.  "White vote" is basically code for "traditional male WASPs from the American 'heartland'."


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  •  Well - I gotta tell ya! (4+ / 0-)
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    Bob Love, Satya1, BobBlueMass, grasshopper

    That is somewhat true.  Being from VA - with an election every year - we tried extremely hard to bring in the 2008 voters in 2009 (not with standing a bad candidate).

    No engagement - I find that particularly frustrating.

    Here the up side - if we nominate Terry Mac - he will bring in the national players - thus keeping that electorate engaged...  Mark Warner will not!

    Fortunately (or unfortunately) we got national exposure with the debacle in the VA HOD - with the ultrasound crap...
    This will be huge in VA in 2013 and perhaps those voters will stay somewhat tuned in.

    I did announced at the victory party - that we all thank the many many volunteers who came out - and....see how easy and how good it feels to work for success... We need you in 2013!

    Takin it to the Streets! time to GOTV

    by totallynext on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 07:44:14 AM PST

    •  I have similar views (1+ / 0-)
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      It's great if we can capture the WH every 4 years, but with attendance so low in between, how are we going to get back control of more state governments so that we can:

      * get back powers of redistricting to help us capture the US House
      * rewrite state laws to open up voting, eliminate long waits and reverse the recent trends of suppression.

      Obama's first term showed us painfully how much obstruction the GOP is capable of imposing on the country.  The House is vital to making big progress.  We ignore mid-terms and we're missing major opportunities to govern.

      Me?  I'm gearing up for 2013 and 2014 big time.  

      I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

      by Satya1 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:05:15 AM PST

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  •  You dont know how many times (0+ / 0-)

    I've heard this now about immigration reform from conservatives. They want the fence up but no citizenship. No deal.

  •  GOP 3.0 (1+ / 0-)
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    Once Obama leaves office all these people will vote for us...its ok, nothing to worry about.

    So those expecting a soul searching..think again. It is wash, rinse, repeat....3.0

    This is our moment...this is our time! President Barack Obama

    by ankae on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 07:48:17 AM PST

  •  Democrats will have a white voter problem (2+ / 0-)
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    tuma, Supavash

    If they cave on entitlements and let Wall Street run the country.

    •  With the new Senate, I hope 4 better legislation (0+ / 0-)

      I hope with the likes of Murphy, Baldwin and WARREN~! in there that we can get better legislation.

      At the very least, our starting point should actually be truly progressive.

      What's been happening is that our OPENING gambit is already somewhat corporate or centrist.  That's what happened with the Stimulus, Cap'n'Trade and Healthcare.

      I fear this will be repeated with taxes.  I bet you the compromise will be that taxes only go up for those making $1 million and above although hopefully that doesn't happen with this senate.

  •  Women and minorities are driven from the GOP (0+ / 0-)

    by the GOP.  Those minorities are not Obama's coalition and not the Democrat's coalition.  The GOP drives them into opposition by insulting them, sneering at them, and passing laws to harass them and limit their rights.

    If the GOP were to stop doing that and become more moderate then they might find that conservative Latinos, blacks, and women would support them and that liberal Latinos, blacks and women would not.  However, if the GOP does not change now, they risk alienating an entire generation of voters.

    A new birth of freedom..

    by docterry on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 07:54:20 AM PST

  •  I don't usually depend on Red State (0+ / 0-)

    for much of anything but a laugh.

    And while they claim to be contemptuous of California, they can never explain why the Republican Party, which has has serious problems getting anyone elected, and the Dems have a super majority in the State Senate and Assembly has rejected them completely.

    We bucked the trend in 2010...and would probably support Marriage Equality now...

    so maybe they should take what happened in California when not wonder what is happening to them now.

  •  Better attribution (0+ / 0-)

    I know you provide an inline link but it would be nice if the big block quotation at the heart of your diary was more clearly attributed to Erick Erickson from RedState.  The source is rather important, after all.

    Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

    by winsock on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:03:38 AM PST

  •  I just hope we don't start fighting among (0+ / 0-)

    ourselves.  As the democratic coalition grows more diverse, the harder it will be to keep it together toward a common purpose.

  •  Wrong. Obama added CO and VA to (0+ / 0-)

    the Dem coalition.  Every other state we won was captured by Clinton at least once (even CO was won in 1992 but that was more to do with Perot) and many twice. We've won over 300 EVs in 4 out of the last 6 elections and have never been below 240 EVs.  Our electoral coalition is durable. However, we have to deliver in this second term to keep it enduring.  If Obama has a successful second term, we will have the ability to build and expand the map to include the deep south, Arizona, and Missouri.  We can win 400 electoral votes in the next election if we make the right decisions now on taxes, education, green jobs among other key areas.

    Alternative rock with something to say:

    by khyber900 on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:27:09 AM PST

  •  No, it's their new bedtime prayer ... (0+ / 0-)

    If not us ... who? If not here ... where? If not now ... when?

    by RUNDOWN on Fri Nov 09, 2012 at 08:49:43 AM PST

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