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Rumors circulate that John Kerry, Mass senior Senator might be appointed Secretary of State.  This is an insane idea.  Hand Scott Brown an empty seat?  Madness.  Also Kerry's day is about done.  Don't appoint him to anything.  Use cabinet appointments to develop the bench and bring along the rising stars.

Fair warning.  If you want Scott Brown back in the Senate just appoint John Kerry to a cabinet post.
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  •  I agree (4+ / 0-)
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    Matt Z, Ishmaelbychoice, Kitty, Mr Robert

    But maybe the Dems don't care about ever doing anything in the Senate ....

    An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

    by mightymouse on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 10:46:50 AM PST

  •  I understand it is an issue (5+ / 0-)
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    VClib, badlands, TLS66, wwjjd, davybaby

    but he showed his true colours this last time, and MA voters are smart enough, if given a good alternative, to vote against him again.  

    And if Obama is happy with Kerry I definitely think he has earned the right to be SoS.

  •  I am fine (3+ / 0-)
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    annetteboardman, maddercow, Chinton

    with him being SoS.  He has earned that job.  Scott Walker isn't going to be elected to any open seat.  Do you remember how big his lead was on Elizabeth Warren before everyone realized he was a douchebag?

  •  Eh (0+ / 0-)

    I am ambivalent about this. I don't think it's "handing" Brown the seat. My guess is he'd lose a further run for senate, although the GOP has a least a chance of winning the race v. a short term replacement than they would by running against Kerry.

    •  Brown was weakened by this last election (2+ / 0-)
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      significantly so.  He turned on his "good guy" image and engaged in bizarre "war whoop squaw" attacks on "professor" Warren.  He became seen as mean spirited and dodgy.  Brown is damaged goods.  

      If you look at the Boston Globe election map, Brown was swamped by Warren in most of the Commonwealth.  This doesn't mean that another Republican might be viable, but I just don't believe it will ever be Scott Brown again.  Tisei is probably an up and comer for the Mass GOP, as a social libertarian and out gay man- he's in the mold of traditional Mass GOP, old time fiscal conservatives and social liberals like Brooke and Weld.

      "Out of Many, One Nation." This is the great promise of the United States of America -9.75 -6.87

      by Uncle Moji on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 12:23:55 PM PST

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      •  won't Tises try (1+ / 0-)
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        Uncle Moji

        to take out Tierney again? That's where I would aim If I were him.

        •  He came very close (1+ / 0-)
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          and according to exit polls it was Libertarians who swung the election to Tierney.  

          I suspect Tisei will aim higher, he has always seemed very ambitious to me, and has been courting Democratic and Unenrolled LGBT voters for some time.  I believe he sees himself in the Billy Weld mold, and I suspect he may have traction.  I wouldn't vote for him, but he has proven he can get crossover votes.  

          I mean Scott Brown came out of nowhere (as far as us Western Mass voters are concerned), propelled ahead by the 495 collar.  Who would have thought a republican state legislator could win Teddy's seat?!!

          "Out of Many, One Nation." This is the great promise of the United States of America -9.75 -6.87

          by Uncle Moji on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 01:14:31 PM PST

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      •  Warren only won w/ highly-educated voters (1+ / 0-)
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        like 68% of them.  Every other cohort, she lost to Brown.  He is not that weak except w/ thinking people.  The minority in any other state.

        My best guess was a reflection that did not look back, an image lost in every mirror.

        by Zacapoet on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 01:21:12 PM PST

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        •  Warren won women at a higher rate (0+ / 0-)

          6 out of 10, as Brown did men but men were a smaller part of the electorate.  Warren also won Democrats.  She won rural Hampshire County which Brown did not ever visit in any Senatorial capacity.  

          Where is your data from?  A link would be helpful.

          "Out of Many, One Nation." This is the great promise of the United States of America -9.75 -6.87

          by Uncle Moji on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 01:41:39 PM PST

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  •  Please don't do it ... (7+ / 0-)

    The risk far out weighs the return ... There are other qualified people to head the State department.

    When Janet Napolitano got the nod for Home land security it stuck us with Jan Brewer for Governor and Az hasn't been the same since.

    Don't cannibalize sitting executives or Senators for cabinet posts, unless it is member of the opposition.

    A mind like a book, has to be open to function properly.

    by falconer520 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 11:00:24 AM PST

    •  A career State official should head State. Kerry (2+ / 0-)
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      is not that bright and has no experience managing a complex bureaucracy. He should continue in the Senate, where his experience lies.

      •  Experience is especially key here (0+ / 0-)

        because in the Senate, seniority is everything. Every time a senior Senator is pulled for a Cabinet post, his/her replacement is going to be, at best, a Dem freshman. That weakens us there, because a freshman Senator doesn't have that much power (there's a reason why it's common to see a first- or second-term Senator leaving to become Governor, but you hardly ever see a sitting Governor leaving to become Senator. Even Sarah Palin wasn't dumb enough to try that).

        In a dog-eat-dog world, rabies is an advantage in the short term.

        by ebohlman on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 08:57:09 PM PST

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  •  Getting tired of the ageist meme going around (9+ / 0-)

    here, ie, "rising stars"= younger talent.  WTF? I'm young, but think Kerry would be a fabulous SoS, and his day is definitely not "done."  Give Scott Brown an empty seat?  Meh.  He lost, and will lose again.

    Republicans...What a nice club...of liars, cheaters, adulterers, exaggerators, hypocrites and ignoramuses. Der Spiegel -6.62, -6.92

    by CanyonWren on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 11:00:46 AM PST

  •  BTW, this is not a diary, but a comment. eom (3+ / 0-)

    Republicans...What a nice club...of liars, cheaters, adulterers, exaggerators, hypocrites and ignoramuses. Der Spiegel -6.62, -6.92

    by CanyonWren on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 11:01:11 AM PST

  •  I'd rather have Susan Rice (3+ / 0-)
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    For a variety of reasons - bench strength, stick it to McCain, etc

    However, I think Brown badly exposed himself- how many "justice Scalia" quotes will be in ads by whoever runs against him?  I think we're pretty safe.

    Also - losers rarely win back a Senate seat- just ask Sen. Allen and Sen. Kerrey

    The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. --George Orwell

    by jgkojak on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 11:11:07 AM PST

  •  Totally agree -- there is no (2+ / 0-)
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    6412093, mightymouse

    point in jeopardizing Dem control of a Senate seat in a blue state. And Scott Brown would be a strong favorite to grab that seat in a special election.

  •  ABSOLUTELY RIGHT (2+ / 0-)
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    Bernie68, mightymouse

    and this is EXACTLY what I've been thinking.  The best use for Kerrey is holding down that Senate seat.

    We can - and we MUST - do better than Kerrey for SOS!!!

  •  Great a believer of Scott Brown's fake legend (5+ / 0-)

    Scott Brown mostly won because Martha Coakley ran a bad campaign not because he is some awesome campaigner.

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 11:39:10 AM PST

    •  he just got over 46% against a great opponent (3+ / 0-)
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      he could win vs a lesser one.

      An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

      by mightymouse on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 12:17:51 PM PST

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    •  Scott Brown had a barn coat from the mall (0+ / 0-)

      and a pickup truck that never hauled farm goods.  But the Boston collar communities ate it up.  Because they buy their barn coats to wear at the mall where they park their pick up trucks.  

      Martha Coakley did run a bad campaign, which is a shame because she is a smash bang up spectacular Attorney General.  Don't understand why there were some on this site who criticized her for being anti-gay which she is not.  I would vote for her for anything, in a heartbeat.

      "Out of Many, One Nation." This is the great promise of the United States of America -9.75 -6.87

      by Uncle Moji on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 12:28:42 PM PST

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  •  You are much too pessimistic. (3+ / 0-)
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    TLS66, LaurenMonica, davybaby

    Scott Brown damaged his brand quite a bit during his campaign, and he only won the first time because the electoral environment was grossly tilted towards the Republicans in 2010.

    Also, look at what Hillary Clinton just accomplished with the Gaza cease fire.  Secretary of State is not an office to be used to groom rookie talent.  We need a real heavy-hitter in that spot.  It should be filled with the best candidate, who will do the best job.  It's important.

    Art is the handmaid of human good.

    by joe from Lowell on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 11:50:25 AM PST

    •  Let's suppose that (1+ / 0-)
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      Ted Kenendy had resigned his seat in 2008 so he could spend his last months at home with family and the special election to succeed him was in January, 2009, not January, 2010 ... I doubt Brown would have been elected, even with a great campaign and against Martha Coakley.  By January, 2010, there was some discontent with Obama, even in Massachusetts, thanks to a year of media sowing the seeds.  However, In January '09, MA voters would have been eager the give the new President a senator he coudl work with.  Now, Obama's been re-elected and I believe the MA electorate would be more like what it probably would have been in early '09.

      "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

      by TLS66 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 12:29:53 PM PST

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  •  Pres. Obama - don't poach! (1+ / 0-)
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    Lots of folks can serve in the cabinet from all walks of life.  Don't need to hurt ourselves by nominating sitting governors or senators.  Any senate replacement race would become a proxy vote on the president and the other side would pour money into like crazy.  A huge distraction from getting anything done.  The President needs all the tools possible to actually govern in this environment.  No more self inflicted wounds (of course he cannot prevent one off resignations, retirements or deaths).

  •  Look, if Dems can't win a Senate election in (1+ / 0-)
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    Massachusetts, they don't deserve to hold the Senate. Kerry is popular enough but he's not Ted Kennedy.

  •  Simple solution -- keep Hillary (0+ / 0-)

    Nothing wrong with her, just helped negotiate a cease fire in Gaza (I hope it hasn't been broken already.)

    If she wants to run for Prez in four years it can be worked out.   Bill can do the campaigning with her doing a few appearances towards the end.    Its not like we are unaware of who she is after that long 2008 primary campaign.

  •  Brown's not a shoo-in anymore (1+ / 0-)
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    He said some ugly things which will come back to haunt him, and Warren hit him hard on some bad votes he's taken.  

    As long as the dems don't nominate Coakley or someone similar, I think we'd be favored to hold this seat.

  •  Brown is a terrific campaigner and (1+ / 0-)
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    he will have unlimited money from Wall Street.

    If Kerry becomes SOS Brown will be right back in the Senate.

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    by We Won on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 01:18:52 PM PST

  •  I'm not crazy about either Rice or Kerry ... (0+ / 0-)

    ... for Secretary of State. But then cabinet appointments are the president's choice to make and I can live with whatever he decides. FWIW though, I'd prefer to see someone like Bill Richardson in that position.

    It's Obama's call as far as I'm concerned. I donated to his campaign and voted for him to win a second term because I trust his judgment. So, regardless of my personal preferences, I respect his prerogatives as POTUS.

  •  I think John Kerry (0+ / 0-)

    Would be fine in any position he chooses. I find it very hard to believe there isn't a single democrat in this state that could beat Scott Brown. If that is the case, then we deserve what we get.

  •  Pffffffft (1+ / 0-)
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    Scott Brown made a surprise attack in the special, caught Dems sleeping, and won during the after Christmas sales and NFL playoffs.

    Not saying he couldn't win but.....

    A year ago he was the most popular politician in Massachusetts, had a motivated base behind him, a trainload of money in the bank and was raising more by the trainload.

    Elizabeth Warren was little known outside the Beltway or Route 128. She had no money. No political base outside Harvard faculty meetings. No political experience. Was a Harvard Law Professor which - no offense - ain't worth a bucket of warm spit outside Cambridge.

    Bench? Hell, people didn't even know she was on the roster.

    She was not a great campaigner or speaker, certainly not in the beginning. Seemed stiff and preachy.

    This was Brown's campaign to lose.

    Three weeks ago.....

    She kicked his ass. Beat him by 8%. He tarnished his brand with his racist, misogynist, sneering campaign. He was a disaster in the debates. His campaign was inept.

    Brown was the best they had, and he's an 8 point loser. In an election he should have won.

    Yeah, maybe, Obama winning by 30, solid congressional races - bar Tierney, and a great Dem GOTV machine won it for her. Certainly Menino busting it in Boston helped.

    Maybe in another short special election he could sneak back in. But you can only surprise people once. Mass. Dems are good and getting better at GOTV. GOP is outgunned and outmanned in Mass., badly. The teaparty energy is gone.

    I believe Both Ways Brown is a one hit wonder. This is a Democratic state and reverted to form after Brown won. I would expect it to stay true to form even if he runs again.

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    by BobBlueMass on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 03:25:28 PM PST

  •  Brown wants to run for Governor in 2014 (0+ / 0-)

    Not for Senate again. Relax.

    Barack: If you think Kerry is the guy you need, go for it!

  •  Obama has to nominate Rice for SoS. (0+ / 0-)

    It would be really lame to walk away from the Graham/McCain fight. It would so help the President if he were to kick their asses, and I think he can. He really doesn't have a choice, in my view. But probably what he is planning is to get Hillary to stay on for another few months to let the whole Benghazi thing become ancient history.

    For if there is a sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life. - Albert Camus

    by Anne Elk on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 04:27:12 PM PST

  •  Kerry would be fine as SOS (1+ / 0-)
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    Brown said to be ambivalent toward another senate run vs. the governor's job in 2014 against light Dem competition for that job at this point. He knows he can't lose two statewide races in a row or he' s done .....with no other meaningful skills to make a living.....only thing arguing against a gubernatorial run is that he's pretty lazy and as Governor you have to, ya know, do stuff......Patrick should find him a public college or university to run and just get him out of the way.....Capuano would be best Dem opponent....Lynch is too conservative and unpolished and Markey hasn't run a real campaign in decades....Coakley is tarnished for any future senate run, but make make a good guy candidate if she decides she wants it and will actually get into the ring this time.....

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