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Small but significant point, but I think Obama's wording on the current fiscal negotiations could be a lot better and and could force the republicans into a more difficult position than they are now.  

Just today, Obama said, as he has been saying,

“We’re going to have to see the rates on the top 2 percent go up,” Mr. Obama told Bloomberg Television in his first television interview since his re-election last month, “and we’re not going to be able to get a deal without it.”

It really surprises me for him to continually word it this way. I would much prefer he say "It's time to return the tax rates for the top 2% (to a more reasonable level)" He could add "The highest earners are doing great compared to the rest of the country through this extremely difficult period, and reverting their tax rates to those of the Clinton era is an entirely practical and common sense way to move forward."

Make the media work and explain to us dumb Americans what the historical rates have been and how even a return to the Clinton era rates is still well below the average since WW2 for the top earners.

Republicans have always been successful in getting democrats to use their wording/framing and even with Obama's apparent upperhand in this situiation, it seems like it is happening again and makes me worry where things will go from here.

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  •  Diarist makes a good point (4+ / 0-)

    ... and while we're at it, let's mention how higher marginal rates actually work. Something like:

    Even billionaires will pay the same middle class rates we have today on the first $250K of their income. Higher rates will apply only to income in excess of the first $250K. We're confident that won't create too much hardship for them.
  •  So many rich assholes have (3+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude, a2nite, jabney

    come out of the woodwork during the 2012 campaign season, i.e. Sheldon Adelson, the Koch brothers etc., that I believe, and apparently the Obama team believes, that the lower-income 98% now understands the class war being waged against them by the plutocratic elite, and won't be influenced one way or another by the words used to describe the tax rates on the top 2%.

    Dogs are people, but corporations aren't.

    by Greasy Grant on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 05:25:05 PM PST

  •  You're right, of course, (4+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude, DBunn, kj in missouri, sanglug

    the frame does matter.
    And the Dems have been behind the curve on it.
    One factor that helps the GOP prevail in framing is the corporate media is predisposed to their viewpoint.
    But the GOP actually employs Luntz, the Dems seem to ignore Lakoff.
    I've been hoping he'd put it: "it gives everybody a break on the first $250K, Everybody."

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 05:32:27 PM PST

  •  At Some Point U Just Gotta Say What U Gotta Say (0+ / 0-)

    I think the President may have run out of patience for Luntzian weasel-words. At least I hope so.

    Consider that more than one commentator has pointed to Bill Clinton's 2012 convention speech as a high point. If you don't remember the speech, do a search with "Bill Clinton" and "Arithmetic" as the terms to search for. One plain old-fashioned word, and it wasn't Luntz-speak.

    Wllard 'Mitt' Romney, on the other hand, practically oozed Luntz-speak. How'd that work out for him?



    Strange that a harp of thousand strings should keep in tune so long

    by jabney on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 06:55:50 PM PST

  •  Also they should be non-stop (0+ / 0-)

    hammering the fact that these Bush Tax Cuts were DESIGNED TO EXPIRE.  It was only by the grace (naivete) of the Democrats that 2 extra years were granted.  Republicans created this with the firm expectation that the cuts would expire.

    Anyone heard this on ANY news report EVER?

    Obama/Biden 2012 Leadership - not lies!

    by thunderchi on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 05:22:35 AM PST

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