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I've heard a lot of talk over the last few days that the shooting in Connecticut was the last straw. Reverend Canon Gary Hall, during a sermon at the National Cathedral in Washington, DC was one of those people . . .

Calling the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School "the last straw," Rev. Canon Gary Hall used his sermon Sunday to appeal to the faith community to rally behind gun control efforts. . . .

"The entire American faith community can no longer tolerate this persistent and escalating gun violence against our people," he said. . . .

"The best way for us to mourn the Sandy Hook shooting is to mobilize the faith community for gun control," Hall said at the apex of his sermon.

The normally-subdued congregation stood to its feet in applause.

Hall pledged his and the community's help in crafting and taking the action of stronger gun control.

Remember this: The normally-subdued congregation stood to its feet in applause.

This has never happened during a sermon at the national Cathedral.  It's akin to the crowd breaking out in applause during a sermon at St Peters Cathedral in Rome.

Conversations are occurring across the country about gun control and its not just liberals and independents.  My girlfriend was talking to her Republican parents last night, and her mother, a former elementary school librarian, was heartsick.  Her father talked about owning and firing guns when he was a kid, but couldn't understand the need for gun owners to posses semi-automatic weapons.  The idea of hunting with a semi-automatic weapon was appalling to him.

My brother, an evangelical Christian, is beside himself.  He voted for Mitt Romney, but can't understand why the politicians won't do anything about gun control.  He lives in Houston, TX and has three school age children.  He supports gun control.

It isn't going to go away this time.  Too many people have images of their kids being killed by guns.  It's too hard to get the image of 6 and 7 year old children being senselessly killed out of your head.

I can't get it out of my head.  I can't stop myself from crying whenever I think about it.

Originally posted to ecostar on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 08:14 AM PST.

Also republished by Anglican Kossacks.

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  •  Republished to Anglican Kossacks, (5+ / 0-)

    unless you mind…



    Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

    by Wee Mama on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 08:33:52 AM PST

  •  That's encouraging, (4+ / 0-)

    both the sermon and the congregation's support for gun control.

    Let's hope this means a turning point on insane gun laws and gun violence.

    The sh*t those people [republicans] say just makes me weep for humanity! - Woody Harrelson

    by SoCalSal on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 08:38:31 AM PST

    •  It's not completely surprising (2+ / 0-)
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      that the congregation of the National Cathedral, which is Episcopal, would support gun control and social justice issues. As a church--and don't get me wrong, we have our conservative elements--we are a very progressive bunch.

      Get your goddamned guns out of my church. This means you.

      by commonmass on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 12:49:43 PM PST

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      •  The nation needs to hear more from (2+ / 0-)
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        progressive churches instead of the steady message from conservatives.

        The sh*t those people [republicans] say just makes me weep for humanity! - Woody Harrelson

        by SoCalSal on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:05:26 PM PST

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      •  Congregation at National Cathedral not exactly (1+ / 0-)
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        progressive.  Maybe not uber-conservative, but I think calling them progressive is a stretch. You're progressive churches in DC are ones like All Souls Unitarian church.  Many Episcopal churches around the US are actually evangelical these days; the Episcopal church I went to in Houston is an example of one that has become evangelical.

        I'm not saying there are not progressive Episcopalian churches, they're just not the norm among that denomination.

        The only thing we have to fear is fear itself - FDR. Obama Nation. -6.13 -6.15

        by ecostar on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:15:21 PM PST

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        •  It may not be the norm in individual parishes (1+ / 0-)
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          (it depends upon what part of the country you're in, for starters, and where your Rector went to Seminary: you're not likely to find many liberals from Nashotah House and you're likely to find Unitarians with Robes from Episcopal Divinity School in Cambridge, for instance) but the National Church is decidedly liberal. I think that the fact that I'm about to marry my same-sex partner using an officially sanctioned and (in my state, anyway) legal Rite in an Episcopal Cathedral says a lot about where the national church is--decidedly progressive.

          Get your goddamned guns out of my church. This means you.

          by commonmass on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:46:14 PM PST

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        •  By the way, the Diocese of Texas is.... (1+ / 0-)
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          well...a little shall we say strange. I lived in Houston for years, and St. Paul's Methodist was higher than Christ Church Cathedral. Palmer Memorial is what passed for high church (though there was a great little Anglo-Catholic parish in the best, working class, progressive tradition in the Heights--St. Andrew's). A friend of mine used to go to St. Stephen's on Alabama--we used to call it "St. Stephanies-in-the-Gayborhood".

          As for Episcopal churches being "Evangelical" ("Low Church") there is, as I'm sure you know, a long history of that all through the Anglican Communion and the C of E--the Episcopal Church in the United States included.

          Get your goddamned guns out of my church. This means you.

          by commonmass on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 01:50:14 PM PST

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          •  There are a few where steeple jackers have been (1+ / 0-)
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            busy, but mercifully few.



            Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

            by Wee Mama on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 02:28:13 PM PST

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            •  Generally speaking, as you know, Wee Mama, (1+ / 0-)
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              our Bishops like to use their very little bit of power and generally use it to keep the Episcopal Church in some semblance of Apostolic order. The congregation I serve had to be reminded, for instance, by the former Bishop that they were NOT a congregational church!

              Thank goodness our church is broad. As for me, if you want to be a fundie or a Methodist, there's places to go to do that.

              Get your goddamned guns out of my church. This means you.

              by commonmass on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 02:55:23 PM PST

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              •  I feel blessed in our bishops. I have known so (1+ / 0-)
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                many good ones, it is almost an experimental proof of apostolic succession.

                At diocesan convention this year, I had a lovely experience - bishops from our companion dioceses were present and active. At the Eucharist, the new Scottish bishop from Brechin stood up with the retired Swazi bishop, flanking our own in age as well as position. And yet the newest bishop was from the oldest diocese, going back to early medieval years, and the oldest bishop was only the third or fourth for his diocese, one of the newer ones in Africa. Such a vivid, living embodiment of the Anglican experience and charism.



                Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

                by Wee Mama on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 03:02:18 PM PST

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                •  Indeed. (1+ / 0-)
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                  We recently undertook a great deal of renovation, expansion and remodeling at our parish. In a choir rehearsal, there was some question about a box which was in a closet which is now difficult to access. I chimed in "You know, that closet under the stairs that if you open it, half the house of bishops falls out". Knowing laughter ensued.

                  That said, I agree: we are truly blessed with some awesome bishops.

                  Get your goddamned guns out of my church. This means you.

                  by commonmass on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 04:40:28 PM PST

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          •  I actually attended Palmer Memorial in 1970s (0+ / 0-)

            and it is now an evangelical church.  I don't know their politics anymore, because I haven't been to Palmer in more than 30 years, but it now advertises itself as an evangelical Episcopal church.

            The only thing we have to fear is fear itself - FDR. Obama Nation. -6.13 -6.15

            by ecostar on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 09:00:11 PM PST

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  •  The tipping point in England for this (5+ / 0-)

    was when 16 kindergarteners and their teacher were killed by an intruder with handguns in 1996.

    Maybe this will be what brings change to our country. Fingers crossed.

    The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."

    by teacherjon on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 09:22:58 AM PST

  •  Normally, I don't like it when clergy-- (2+ / 0-)
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    especially Episcopal Priests--walk that fine line of political speech from the pulpit even though (especially from Episcopal priests) I'm likely to agree with them.

    However, I applaud Canon Hall. Anyone who can get a bunch of Episcopalians to applaud in church...

    Get your goddamned guns out of my church. This means you.

    by commonmass on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 12:48:14 PM PST

    •  Snork. Reminds me of the story from St. Paul's in (0+ / 0-)

      London. An American (a Southerner) is visiting and, moved by the sermon, calls out, "Preach it, brother!" The usher hushes him.

      A little later, the great sermon moves him again: "Alleluia!" Again, the usher hushes him.

      Once more, "Praise God!" This time the usher comes closer and says briskly, "What are you doing??"

      "Why, brother, I'm just getting the Spirit!"

      "St. Paul's Cathedral  is no place to get the Spirit!!"



      Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

      by Wee Mama on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 02:31:29 PM PST

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