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With the failure of 'Plan B' Speaker Boehner may be ready to make a BIGGER GRAND BARGAIN.  

Speaker Boehner is probably, at least in part, as repulsive as he is out of necessity, catering to the Tea Party and people of that ilk. Perhaps there is another, more reasonable Boehner who would eagerly embrace the idea of never having to pander to Teahadists again.

Nancy Pelosi should offer Boehner a deal.  She should pledge enough Democratic votes plus 1 to again make Boehner the Speaker in January.  In addition, Pelosi could pledge to deliver enough Democratic votes for any legislation that the two of them agreed upon.  In essence they would become Co-Speakers, with Boehner holding the actual title since there will be more Republicans than Democrats.

This could/would actually bring about sane government once again.  Both parties to the agreement would face serious opposition within their respective caucuses, but since centrist legislation is going to be necessary for the next two years, why not let the two of them figure out where the center is and allow both of them to reject their more extreme elements?

As much as we here at DailyKos might be skeptical of such a union, we  could take comfort from the Democratic control of the other two parties needed to get legislation passed.  ObamaCare, status quo Social Security and Medicare would all be safe.  No fiscal cliffs, no Debt Ceilings to worry about.  We might not get everything we want on taxes, but we aren’t going to get that anyway.

Meanwhile, the public would love it.  From the most divisive years in American politics in our lifetimes to two whole years of harmonius concord would be most welcome by most.

Boehner’s reptilian mind just might be able to see a real way forward for the Republican Party as well.  He knows full well that Republicanism as currently manifested in his caucus is headed for a dead end.  In order for a credible conservative party to hold any influence over American politics, he should realize that the sooner the Tea Party is overthrown, the better.  His only reason for putting up with them is that he cannot govern at all without them.  By offering him a way out of that dilemma, Boehner might actually become an honest broker on the other side of the table.

As much as I despise almost everything that is the current Republican Party, I have to admit that I DO NOT want a world in which there is effectively no competition.  In the long run we stand to get a reasonable, constructive, and honest conservative party from the deal, and that too would be worth it.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)

    Someday soon Republicans are going to drown Grover Norquist - in a bathtub.

    by nuketeacher on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:05:04 AM PST

  •  Lot of questionable thoughts in this diary (0+ / 0-)

    But, I'll just pick the first.  Do Democrats vote on who is speaker?  I thought the majority party decided that.  I could be wrong.

    But the bigger issue, help them get rid of the tea partiers?  Not my problem.  America needs help shrinking the GOP to 25% support where it belongs.

    Republicans: Taking the country back ... to the 19th century

    by yet another liberal on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:15:20 AM PST

  •  I can't quite decide (0+ / 0-)

    if "no legislation" for another two years is worse than accepting yet another push to the right.

    A coalition in the House would move right, even if it doesn't move very far and the temptation for the electorate would be to vote GOP in the mid-terms.

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    by twigg on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:16:20 AM PST

  •  Nice thought in theory (0+ / 0-)

    Would never actually happen in reality though. Boehner would get primaried and be out of office after the 2014 elections.

    Plus, Boehner is a trueblue, hardcore conservative. Not as extreme as some of the current Tea Party members but still extreme in compared to the Republicans of the 1980s and 1990s.

  •  Might work (1+ / 0-)
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    But seems highly unlikely. Moderates are a tiny minority in the GOP caucus, and anyone Gooper signing on to this deal--even indirectly--is guaranteed to lose to a Teahadist in a primary in two years.  Given the aggressive gerrymandering post-2010, we just wind up with more Teahadists in the House.

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -- Arthur C. Clarke

    by mathGuyNTulsa on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:16:55 AM PST

  •  Interesting suggestion. (0+ / 0-)

    Realistically, there are probably reasons it wouldn't work, which better-informed participants in this thread will enumerate.

    I agree, the Tea Party is an albatross to the Republicans at this point, and it needs to be jettisoned. The question is, how?

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:17:53 AM PST

  •  By and large (0+ / 0-)

    the baggers are the GOP.

    •  Yes and No (0+ / 0-)

      They are because they HAVE to be.  If there is an alternative I think they might take it.

      If Obama won your district it would be hard to say that the people of your district do not want Obama's policies.  There are plenty of Republican Congressmen in this situation.

      Someday soon Republicans are going to drown Grover Norquist - in a bathtub.

      by nuketeacher on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:27:18 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  I think it is a question of who jettisons who (0+ / 0-)

    Does the Tea Party jettison the Sanes or do the Sanes jettison the Tea Party?

    I actually think the Republican brand is so damaged that the winners will be whoever is ousted.

    The No Labels thing has been collecting dust on a shelf for a little while - maybe the Republican contingent of the joint centriat movement can begin to assemble under their new flag - Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, Chris Christie, Chuck Hagel, Christie Todd Whitman, Bloomberg, Joe Scarborough, etc.

    Then we can watch the Tea Party jump and scream in impotant rage. I am hoping they do a symbolic flagpole sit while a budget compromise is signed.

    “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

    by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:40:23 AM PST

  •  We Have a Reasonable Conservative Party Now, (1+ / 0-)
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    the Democrats.

    They support Reaganomics including free trade, support highly concentrated media, don't advocate hasty major action on climate change, and they support reductions in the social safety net.

    These kinds of things are what are considered reasonable conservatism in the United States.

    What we need for a healthy democracy is a liberal party, one that supports protecting our domestic economy, preventing extreme concentration of ownership of business, finance and media markets, one that advocates acting on climate change to the degree indicated necessary by science, and would restore the social safety net.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:45:11 AM PST

    •  I stand corrected. (0+ / 0-)

      I do completely agree that the Democratic Party is too far to the right.  But I am at least as much a pragmatist as I am a zealot and I would welcome a split in American politics with a viable Democratic Party where it is today and a reasonable body of people somewhere to the right of it.

      Someday soon Republicans are going to drown Grover Norquist - in a bathtub.

      by nuketeacher on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:51:38 AM PST

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  •  Jettison? No. (0+ / 0-)

    Let them SPLIT the party:

    1. Tea Party - nuts...
    2. GOP - dinosaurs...
    3. Neocons - taking up residence overseas...
    4. Theocons - nominating Machine Gun Jesus for Prez...
    5. Libertarians - thriving in the Libertarian Paradise of East Somalia... freedom and war...! Yeah!

    Split the vote so well that they disappear...

    Meh. GOP.

    Ugh. --UB.

    "Daddy, every time a bell rings, a Libertaria­n picks up his Pan Am tickets for the Libertaria­n Paradise of East Somalia!"

    by unclebucky on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 08:05:19 AM PST

  •  Republican majority (1+ / 0-)
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    LI Mike

    The majority of the Republican Party is the Christian Right--they are not the majority everywhere.  The separate not-quite-majority are the Taxed Enough Already people.  

    We can have change for the better.

    by phillies on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 08:28:56 AM PST

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