Skip to main content

U.S. Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-MD) (L) and Representative Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) appear at a news conference at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, December 22, 2011. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst   (UNITED STATES - Tags: POLITICS BUSINESS)
Hoyer and Van Hollen, let the real capitulating begin.
David Nir's most pessimistic fears in the wake of last night's debacle in the House could be realized. The House Democratic Leadership held a press conference Friday, not to rub House Speaker John Boehner's nose in his failure, but to stress the need for going back to the negotiating table and working together in a bipartisan way.

Which is fine, what the markets might need to be hearing to calm down a bit today. However, Rep. Chris Van Hollen took that just too far.

Repeatedly stressing that President Obama has come "more than halfway" in meeting Boehner's demands, Van Hollen stressed that the last offer from Obama had to become the new starting point for renewed negotiations. Why should "more than halfway" be the new starting point? So Obama can go more than three-quarters of the way? Or like during the during debt ceiling fight, when he went 98 percent of the way?

This is just insane. The last offer from Obama gave far too much away, and was obviously a negotiating disaster. And that's where Van Hollen wants to start from now? Social Security cuts, less revenue, more pain should be the new starting point? That's apparently the united front we now have coming from House Democratic leadership. Because there's also Steny Hoyer appearing on MSNBC to suggest that what Boehner should do is what Mitch McConnell (!) suggested—have a majority vote in the House on President Obama's plan, because he says they have the Democratic votes to pass it.

The House Democratic leadership is doing its damnedest to give up whatever advantage they have in Boehner's massive failure. In what should be a complete reset of these talks, Van Hollen, and Hoyer, and Nancy Pelosi by appearing with them and letting this be the official Democratic House response, just told House Republicans that there is always more critical stuff Democrats will be willing to give up.

What happened to not negotiating with terrorists?

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 11:25 AM PST.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

EMAIL TO A FRIEND X
Your Email has been sent.
You must add at least one tag to this diary before publishing it.

Add keywords that describe this diary. Separate multiple keywords with commas.
Tagging tips - Search For Tags - Browse For Tags

?

More Tagging tips:

A tag is a way to search for this diary. If someone is searching for "Barack Obama," is this a diary they'd be trying to find?

Use a person's full name, without any title. Senator Obama may become President Obama, and Michelle Obama might run for office.

If your diary covers an election or elected official, use election tags, which are generally the state abbreviation followed by the office. CA-01 is the first district House seat. CA-Sen covers both senate races. NY-GOV covers the New York governor's race.

Tags do not compound: that is, "education reform" is a completely different tag from "education". A tag like "reform" alone is probably not meaningful.

Consider if one or more of these tags fits your diary: Civil Rights, Community, Congress, Culture, Economy, Education, Elections, Energy, Environment, Health Care, International, Labor, Law, Media, Meta, National Security, Science, Transportation, or White House. If your diary is specific to a state, consider adding the state (California, Texas, etc). Keep in mind, though, that there are many wonderful and important diaries that don't fit in any of these tags. Don't worry if yours doesn't.

You can add a private note to this diary when hotlisting it:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from your hotlist?
Are you sure you want to remove your recommendation? You can only recommend a diary once, so you will not be able to re-recommend it afterwards.
Rescue this diary, and add a note:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary from Rescue?
Choose where to republish this diary. The diary will be added to the queue for that group. Publish it from the queue to make it appear.

You must be a member of a group to use this feature.

Add a quick update to your diary without changing the diary itself:
Are you sure you want to remove this diary?
(The diary will be removed from the site and returned to your drafts for further editing.)
(The diary will be removed.)
Are you sure you want to save these changes to the published diary?

Comment Preferences

Bob Johnson, SME in Seattle, bink, Renee, GainesT1958, democrattotheend, Sylv, hester, slinkerwink, Bendygirl, tikkun, mickT, Geenius at Wrok, Nina Katarina, mjr, PeterHug, eeff, HootieMcBoob, Rachael7, Joe B, hubcap, davelf2, RubDMC, Morgana, Boston Boomer, bronte17, Zinman, cyberKosFan, lippythelion69, ShadowRunning, boadicea, chuckvw, pedrito, Ignacio Magaloni, bewert, navajo, revsue, Redfire, tomephil, menodoc, Ryvr, figbash, pat bunny, johanus, catfood, Steven Payne, Oaktown Girl, zerelda, schuylkill, environmentalist, kbman, marina, 3goldens, jrooth, corvo, Simplify, stagemom, Laurence Lewis, where4art, Burned, Steve in Urbana, Tunk, mightymouse, Alan Arizona, Paper Cup, splashoil, RJDixon74135, Mother Mags, Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse, Medium Head Boy, vigilant meerkat, victoria2dc, sleipner, Lefty Coaster, blueoasis, StrayCat, philipmerrill, gpoutney, gooderservice, JVolvo, sceptical observer, Timothy J, kurt, kurious, Cartoon Messiah, BentLiberal, One Pissed Off Liberal, BeninSC, SpecialKinFlag, verso2, offgrid, puakev, Mary Mike, deepeco, suejazz, masslib, HCKAD, Aunt Martha, TheSpectator, bobswern, uciguy30, GeorgeXVIII, leonard145b, JML9999, TruthFreedomKindness, misterwade, ratador, MikePhoenix, zerone, Thomas Twinnings, Aureas2, elwior, Lujane, boatjones, RandomNonviolence, dewley notid, Neosho, temptxan, billybam, Rhysling, Throw The Bums Out, LinSea, ewmorr, maryabein, War on Error, jennylind, zaka1, jfromga, Just Bob, FogCityJohn, gulfgal98, Lady Libertine, paradise50, Puddytat, Johnny Q, Betty Pinson, fiercefilms, annominous, Liberal Capitalist, kevin k, marleycat, PorridgeGun, toshiaki, TRPChicago, Joe Hill PDX, peregrine kate, organicus, whaddaya, PhilJD, VTCC73, cjo30080, Willa Rogers, DRo, SycamoreRich, Mathazar, DawnN, quill, anodnhajo, greenbastard, Siri, IndieGuy, foucaultspendulum, dance you monster, rustypatina, barkingcat, This old man, Mr Robert, Frisbeetarian, BobSoperJr, AverageJoe42, Kayjay, wasatch, peptabysmal, WheninRome, TheMeansAreTheEnd, Boundegar, RobW, poopdogcomedy, dear occupant, goodpractice, PHScott, aresea, IndyinDelaware, Hey338Too, longtimelurker, Blackhawks

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site