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When I was a child, I was taught not to run out into the street because I could get hit by a car or truck.  Twenty years later, I taught my son not to run out into the street because he could get hit by a car or truck.   So what I need to know is when did it become ok to walk out in front of a moving vehicle?   If I’m not mistaken pedestrians do not have the right away unless they are crossing at a crosswalk with the light.  But for some reason, all kinds of people believe that it is ok to walk in front of a moving vehicle.  They look at you like they are daring you to hit them.

And when did it become okay to set fire to a restaurant’s Christmas tree because you had to wait longer than you wanted for your check?  I mean COME ON, REALLY?????  Was that really necessary?Man Sets Fire to Denny's Christmas Tree, Causes $150K of Damage

When did it become okay to shoot people just because they piss you off?  I read this article about all the gun violence since Sandy Hook.  U.S. Shooting Deaths Since Sandy Hook Top 100
Now, it’s easy to believe that this violence happened but why did it happen?  When did it become ok to pick up a gun and kill people you don’t like or agree with?   When did it become to pull off the side of the road and shoot someone because they cut you off in traffic?  

I have to pause and ask myself….”If there had been 20 6 year old kids killed in INDIVIDUAL EVENTS on the same day/date, would it even had been noticed?

When did America become an armed camp?  If you listen to the NRA’s strategy, which represents a large percentage of Americans, every adult in America should be armed.  Our schools, churches, shopping malls, homes should all be heavily armed for protection.  Of course all these gun sales and ammo sales certainly make for great corporate profit taking.   Hmmm, what was that saying…...”The Love of Money is the root of all evil”????  

I laugh at the notion of arming the head of the NRA and putting him in the middle of a gang related neighborhood in somewhere likes Los Angeles.   Now there is an idea for a video game….NRA versus REALITY.  I’m quite certain it would be a big hit.

When did watching violence on TV become the problem?  I’ve probably seen over 1 billion acts of murder on television in my lifetime.  After all, I was the first generation raised on television.  I don’t go out and kill people.  

When did it become okay to blame other people for your mistakes?  I always hear other people especially politicians talk about taking responsibility for your own life, your own actions.  But those same people/politicians, NEVER EVER TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for their actions.   How can any informed citizen have respect for a government that fails to behave in the same manner they demand from their constituency?  

I find it extremely ironic that the GOP wants no rules for corporations but lots of rules for individuals.

When did it become OK to do nothing and hurt everyone for your own personal and political gain?  Perhaps, it became ok to not compromise even though you know it will cause the very result that you advocate against.   Look the tea partiers say they are protecting America when they are really destroying it.  And government has become so partisan that neither party will allow its members to cross party lines and work for the good of the country without punishment.

When did it become ok to represent truth as propaganda and propaganda as truth?  

Originally posted to pollchecker on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 07:02 AM PST.

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  •  The very day we first accepted the premise; (15+ / 0-)

    "Perception is reality".

    "If you tell the truth, you won't have to remember anything", Mark Twain

    by Cruzankenny on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 07:07:56 AM PST

  •  You see the (7+ / 0-)

    car driver as the victim re pedestrian/car driver interactions? - interesting.

  •  It's just getting worse (10+ / 0-)

    As more and more humans populate this country (and planet) and compete for ever dwindling resources and space, the dysfunction you describe will probably accelerate. .

    But it's nice to see that some people remember it wasn't always as bad.  That memory is the only hope of ever rediscovering that society.

  •  walking in front of cars has to be about the (13+ / 0-)

    dumbest thing I've seen of late.

    Cars weigh close to a ton going however fast made of metal. Human is flesh. Duh!

    In a cross walk I wait for the cars to go by, at a light I double check, I teach my kids to do the same. Driver makes a mistake it's way bad.

    How big is your personal carbon footprint?

    by ban nock on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 07:42:51 AM PST

  •  It does seem (13+ / 0-)

    these days that we walk around in our own little bubbles.

    When I moved to where I live now I had to become aware of people who never paused or even looked before stepping out into the street. It can be nerve wracking at times. They make the assumption that they will be seen in time for a car to stop. This is not always the case. Self preservation skills seem to be lacking these days.

    But everybody seems to think these that what they want, think and need is more important that anyone else. If they are in a hurry only they matter any one who gets in their way is evil, if they are afraid then they must be made safe no matter what what the price to others.

    I do believe we have become a nation of spoiled brats.

    It is the heart that makes a man rich. He is rich according to what he is not what he has -Henry Ward Beecher

    by PSWaterspirit on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 07:49:29 AM PST

  •  I'd say about the same time Ronald Reagan (22+ / 0-)

    turned money into god, made ketchup a vegetable and greed a traditional family value.

    It was the start off the 'I don't give a fuck about anyone but me and mine'-era, and now we've digressed into the age of "I don't give a fuck. Period."

    •  I'd agree with you that (10+ / 0-)

      the Ronald Reagan era was the beginning of the end of America as we knew it.  Interesting that the GOP calls him a great POTUS.  Great compared to what?  Tricky Dick or Lame ass ford?  

      Visit the Iraq Memorial Quilt @

      by pollchecker on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 08:08:30 AM PST

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      •  They don't compare him to (11+ / 0-)

        anything, that's the trick.
        He is superior to all, omnipotent, and omniscient.

        For those of us who remember, he was a B-actor who was upstaged by a chimp and that is plenty good enough for his believers.
        His era was marked by illegal, covert operations and a general understanding that, at least for the last term, the man was not well.

        Occupy- Your Mind. - No better friend, no worse enemy. -8.75, -6.21<> Bring the Troops Home Yesterday

        by Thousandwatts on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 09:35:42 AM PST

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        •  He also was a peacemaker (5+ / 0-)

          ...when we needed one most. I don't disagree with many of the criticisms of his policies, though I do think that like Dubya he was a front for conservative forces who were the real policy makers. The man was an actor and his job was to sell what was given him in the script.

          The one notable way he bucked his leash-holders was the most important of all. At the height of the Cold War, when most experts considered nuclear war an overwhelming statistical likelihood, he saw the groundbreaking miniseries The Day After and it scared the holy living shit out of him. He changed his administration policies regarding the Soviets, softened the hard line stance held by the Republican establishment and took first strike off the table. He opened a dialogue with the Russians which led to deescalation, finding a willing partner in Gorbachev.

          The right wing likes to promote the myth that Reagan ended the Cold War through strong-arm tactics, but that's bullshit. He pulled us back from the brink of annihilation by actually acting like the kind and benevolent grandfather figure he portrayed and talking it out with the Soviets in a genuine effort to make peace. And he did it when his whole party establishment was hawkish as all hell and against what he was doing.

          It doesn't change the awful things he promoted and allowed on his watch, but the man deserves credit for being willing to change course when it was most vital. When I think of Reagan I think of a man who mostly played the President on TV until he realized his responsibility to prevent nuclear Armageddon and did what he had to. And he did it against the wishes of his own party, his own handlers really. It doesn't redeem everything, not by a long shot, but I do think he shares the credit with Gorbachev for saving the world from nuclear fire. Both men bucked the tide of history and their own parties and governments to snip the fuse on the bombs that would have destroyed us all.

          "Is there anybody listening? Is there anyone who sees what's going on? Read between the lines, criticize the words they're selling. Think for yourself, and feel the walls become sand beneath your feet." --Geoff Tate, Queensryche

          by DarthMeow504 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 02:17:41 PM PST

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          •  That's an interesting line of thought. (3+ / 0-)

            I tend to see it more as Reagan was doing "what they did" in terms of spending tons of money and "fighting communism" at every turn; lots of talk of "Star Wars" and mini-wars in the Western Hemisphere- seeing anything remotely communist as being a direct tentacle of the USSR and the Soviets managed to get themselves into Afghanistan, which shredded them socially and economically. The Soviets had open demonstrations against the war, a generation of war weary veterans sick of the bluster of global domination while the domestic economy collapsed. Many different nations under the hammer and sickle ready to strike out on their own and the Soviet army exhausted by Afghanistan, no longer the enforcer of a Politburo no longer singular in its goals.
            I don't think Reagan was as active in making peace as some are choosing to give him credit for; USSR crumbled on his watch but he would have loved to have had a more direct and active role if circumstances would have allowed as in his "open mike" gaffe in 1984.
            Afghanistan wore out the Soviet Union at many levels, combined with a change in Soviet leadership, and USSR crumbled with Reagan and history there to catch the pieces.

            Occupy- Your Mind. - No better friend, no worse enemy. -8.75, -6.21<> Bring the Troops Home Yesterday

            by Thousandwatts on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 07:34:28 PM PST

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            •  seriously. That "gaffe" was the first thing (1+ / 0-)
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              that came to my mind. If Ronald Reagan can be seen as a "peacemaker, " god help us all.

              •  History disagrees with you (0+ / 0-)


                1986, Reagan and Gorbachev put eliminating all ICBMs and nuclear weapons on the table. These talks led directly to deescalation.

                It's another right wing myth that the US "spent the USSR into collapse", as the military and especially the nuclear arsenal never went anywhere. If you don't think a nation can remain hostile and a threat despite economic hardship, take a look at North Korea. Russia could have maintained Cold War level hostility even after the satellite states broke off. It could be a superpower level threat even now if it chose.

                They didn't have to nor want to anymore because Reagan and Gorbachev thawed the Cold War at the negotiating table. Those talks, and the willingness of both sides to make concessions and genuinely seek peace is what ended the Cold War, not strong arm tactics nor military spending. Reagan and Gorbachev both bucked their own party hardliners to make it happen.

                Reagan changed course. He started out toeing the right wing hard line, and changed his mind. That's historical fact. People aren't black and white, all good and all bad, and neither was Reagan. He did a lot wrong, like I said, but he deserves credit for that one vital thing he did so very right.

                "Is there anybody listening? Is there anyone who sees what's going on? Read between the lines, criticize the words they're selling. Think for yourself, and feel the walls become sand beneath your feet." --Geoff Tate, Queensryche

                by DarthMeow504 on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 04:47:56 AM PST

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    •  "The New Hobesian Process" is what an Econ (11+ / 0-)

      prof I had in the '80's called it. If people come to see a largess as a right, they will fight anyone and everyone to keep it.

      He was a conservative, and he applied it to recipients of social welfare programs, but it applies even more to government contractors (which most corporations are, at some level) and the over-paid top echelons of the corporate world.

      And everyone who isn't an executive is being told that THEY don't deserve the pittance they are paid. Everyone is pissed, scared and hyper-defensive. Including the economic elite, who are afraid that the music will stop before they have permanently secured their fortunes. (Home in Bahrain, money in the Carribean, etc.)

      It has become obvious that some in this country want to pick permanent winners and losers and no one wants to be one of the losers.

      The working class want guns to protect themselves because they don't have an armed guard in the lobby or out at the gate to protect them from the imaginary roving bands of destitute minorities who are coming to rape and rob and kill them.

      Our media deliberately keep the populace in a state of paranoia.

      George Orwell famously said, "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." Had Orwell seen Reagan and Thacher, he would have said wingtip shoe, instead.

      The working poor haven’t abdicated responsibility for their lives. They’re drowning in it. -Ezra Klein

      by bubbajim on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 10:46:16 AM PST

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  •  Stand Your Ground laws (14+ / 0-)

    It became OK to shoot people you were angry at when "Stand Your Ground" laws started getting passed in states.

    Under existing laws, if the car next to you is playing music too loud, all you need to do is shoot them, and if you kill them, you get off scott-free.  Simply claim that you were feeling "threatened", and the law allows you to kill the other guy.  That guy is dead, so they are in no position to gain-say your claims to being threatened.  You've acted according to the law, and you've killed off any witnesses who might say otherwise.

    The whole point of "Stand Your Ground" laws was to legitimize and de-criminalize gun shooting.  Indeed, the gun industry WANTS people to use their guns more, because more gun use is profitable to the gun industry.  That is why the gun industry lobbied for "Stand Your Ground" laws.

    "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

    by Hugh Jim Bissell on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 07:55:47 AM PST

  •  Some places, peds do have the right of way (11+ / 0-)

    In California, if a pedestrian steps off the curb, anywhere, the cars MUST stop. If the ped is not in a crosswalk, it's still true, but the ped can get a ticket for J-walking.
    In Boston, everyone crosses wherever and the cars hardly slow down. No one gets tickets for J-walking but they can get seriously dead if they don't do the dance well. It helps to picture a matador in a herd of bulls, timing is everything.
    This is a behavioral difference that is cultural, shaped by the laws.
    As for lighting a Denny's on fire, well, sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 08:22:22 AM PST

    •  Kinda smug don't you think? (1+ / 0-)
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      As for lighting a Denny's on fire, well, sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
      You wouldn't be so smug about it IF the fire had killed 20 kids, would you.  

      Violence is still violence whether it's expressed by destroying someone else's property or killing someone.  It all comes from the same place.  It all has the same equation.  

      So I guess the next question is...."when did we start justifying violent actions?"

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      by pollchecker on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 08:29:42 AM PST

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  •  I Would Suggest To Those Here Who Have Not (14+ / 0-)

    been a pedestrian  that you take some time to go out walking in your city and observe how you are treated by drivers.

    It will give you another perspective.

    As a frequent walker/pedestrian I use all the marked crosswalks available, however I am constantly "staring" at drivers to see if they are aware I am ready to cross the street, trying to calculate if they are slowing down or oblivious or simply don't care.  Many drivers don't look around at all, some are using their cell phone and are clueless anyone is even around.  I press the warning flasher lights (if available) to notify drivers I am crossing the street, but I still stare at the drivers as I cross to get a sense if they have noticed and are slowing down.  Some pedistrians are elderly or disabled and may not get across as fast as a driver would like.

    The Republican Party is Simply a Coalition of Greed and Hate

    by kerplunk on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 01:27:15 PM PST

  •  Welcome to Reagan's America (14+ / 0-)

    • Where government is the problem, not the solution.
    • Where corporations are people.
    • Where asking for a living wage and benefits is class warfare.
    • Where giving everyone access to healthcare is socialism.
    • Where Janet Jackson's boob on TV gets immediate Congressional action, but shooting up a school, theater, Congresswoman, etc. etc. is not the time to rush to judgment.
    • Where unregulated lady parts are a bigger threat to society than unregulated firearms.
    • Where the rich pay too much in taxes, and the poor don't pay enough.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 01:43:24 PM PST

    •  Oh, you're not giving the Bushites enough (2+ / 0-)
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      credit. Reagan has been out of it or dead for most of that. I have always believed that Bush the Elder ran the Reagan administration, just like Cheney ran the Bush the Lesser administration.

      •  Reagan's still the face they put on this (0+ / 0-)

        He's the one who made selling Republican snake oil to the rubes possible. All style - the better to sugarcoat the substance.

        "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

        by xaxnar on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 04:33:57 PM PST

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  •  It never became ok. (7+ / 0-)

    First of all, you're lumping a bunch of things together that have absolutely zero to do with each other. Some schmuck lights a tree on fire, and somehow you draw the conclusion that it's considered "ok" by society in general? Where do you get that? Just because something happens doesn't mean it's deemed acceptable. That person is now a criminal; if (s)he's caught, (s)he'll be arrested.

    People who walk into traffic are stupid, but so are all the @$$holes who don't come to a full stop at stop signs on city streets. Apparently both of these things have become ok, judging by how common they are. But what that has to do with your other examples is beyond me.

    Mitt Romney = Draco Malfoy

    by ubertar on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 01:47:27 PM PST

  •  The problem is (2+ / 0-)
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    that since Reagan institutionalized the fact that wealth and power makes its own rules it trickled down to the masses. Once truth loses all power it is replaced by rationalization. "Since I am more important to me than you I can do whatever I want."

  •  The shift to an autocentric lifestyle, where it (5+ / 0-)

    is maybe a mile or two between crosswalks is part of it.

    That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

    by enhydra lutris on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 02:10:08 PM PST

  •  Are you sure it hasn't always been so? (2+ / 0-)
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    by dinotrac on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 02:31:27 PM PST

  •  a question of empowerment (1+ / 0-)
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    I'll admit my inner sociologist may be at work here, but I see the recent phenomenon of pedestrians just walking across city streets and daring cars and bikes (I mostly pedal around town) to hit them as a bid for empowerment.

    I live in DC and the number of people crossing wherever and whenever is rising steadily and has been for a few years now.

    "Archaeological description is . . . an abandonment of the history of ideas, a systematic rejection of its postulates and procedures, an attempt to practice a quite different history of what men have said." --Michel Foucault

    by Adelard of Bath on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 02:36:26 PM PST

  •  under the sandinista govt of the 1980, (7+ / 0-)

    all 2 million people of nicaragua, where i lived for short periods of time in 1982 and 1983, were given  rifles.  

    some were ridiculously old, from WWI, and some were bright shiny new kalishnikovs, sent by the ussr, but everyone knew how to point and aim and shoot some sort of firearm.

    i maybe one of the few people around here, who has actually lived among and amidst a state-run citizen's militia.  

    and believe me, you really don't want people opened armed on the streets, sitting around in the cafes, driving buses ...

    it is anxiety producing beyond anything you might currently know in your life.  at the end of the day, i would be , say , cooking a meal, and  all of a sudden i'd be shaking uncontrollably with the release of anxiety that i had accumulated during the day.  that happened time and time again, and i didn't really mind it, because i figured it's what i had to do to stay ahead in the game of being a feeling, not numbed out, human being.

    the nra is nuts for wanting to create such a state of existence here.  fucking nuts.  and they should be opposed with every bit of energy we can summon.  

    HAPPY NEW BAKTUN EVERYBODY !!! (-9.75 / -9.05)

    by doesnotworkorplaywellwithothers on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 02:46:57 PM PST

  •  When did it become OK to invade a country because (6+ / 0-)

    we felt like it?  

    Actually, it started at least as long ago as the Mexican War, opposed by the founding father of the Republican party in Congress in language that would've set George Bush's hair on fire if a Dem had used it in 2004.  Then there was our war of extermination against the Phillipinos who were foolish enough to believe that we threw out the Spanish in order to liberate them.  And our susequent decades of colonialism in Latin America.  And re-instating the Shah in Iran.  Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. To hit just the lowlights.  

    If the most basic aspects of our foreign policy is based on the assumption that we're justified in using force whenever we feel like it,* then it's quixotic to hope that "might makes right" won't be the dominant ethic in our domestic affairs.

    It's as American as apple pie.

    *As a college student, I was a supporter of the Vietnam war until I read that Eisenhower had admitted that Ho Chi Minh would have gotten 80% of the popular vote in a free election in a unified Vietnam.  In other words, the self-determination of the Vietnamese had to take a backseat to our own perceived national interests, even if they had to be bombed into the backseat for us to protect those interests.  Of course, that's not quite the same ethic in the abstract as saying that it's OK to shoot you if you cut me off.  But in practice you get My Lai, which is the same thing.  

  •  I don't know, but it seems to be getting worse. (0+ / 0-)

    A thousand Sharkeys are invading a thousand Shires every day across our country.--James Wells

    by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 04:32:28 PM PST

  •  Considering TWO drivers tried to run me down (2+ / 0-)
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    the other day (within about 5 minutes) when I was walking 1) IN a crosswalk, 2)  WITH the "walk" sign showing,  apparently it's everybody for themselves, regardless of any laws or general sense of decency.

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 05:50:34 PM PST

  •  As a pedestrian here in Oregon (3+ / 0-)

    I can tell you that at every intersection there is a perceived crosswalk. It is there whether it is marked or not.  And also here in Oregon a pedestrian always has the right of way in a crosswalk.  Even crossing against the light.  I do not know where you live but having been run over, in the crosswalk, by an uninsured driver, I learned the laws in my state and obey them even though most drivers seem to think that having a car automatically gives them the right of way no matter what.

    That passed by; this can, too. - Deor

    by stevie avebury on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 06:10:48 PM PST

  •  It's not okay... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...and the fact that we've become inured to it tells me that the social contract is broken.  You ask the question that if the Sandy Hook deaths had been spread out across the country, would we have noticed.  The answer is no.

    This is very, very wrong.  We need to keep on saying that to everyone who will listen.  We can change the culture and we can repair the social contract.  But it will only happen if those who care raise their voices loud enough to be heard over the NRA sponsored gunfire.

    Col. Aaron Burr, Blennerhassett Island, OH USA

    by aaronburr on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 06:42:24 PM PST

  •  Plus this does go both ways. (2+ / 0-)
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    Plus this does go both ways. How about when I'm crossing legally and some asshole can't even keep his foot on the brake and keeps inching toward me? I mean, I'm not the one encased in a ton of metal.

    I can think of a million cases like this. In Chicago, I was always taught pedestrians have the right of way. That doesn't mean we walk out in front of everyone, but it seemed fair given the comparison.

  •  Destroy the Village to Save It (0+ / 0-)
    Look the tea partiers say they are protecting America when they are really destroying it.
    The term in the Vietnam era was that sometimes we had to destroy a village to save it.  So this along with most everything you mention and much more has been going on for a long long time.  The good old days weren't always good nor the golden days gold. Stalin killed, mostly thorough starvation, 22 million men, women and children in order to establish a "workers paradise."  We slaughtered Native Americans to claim "uninhabited" land.   I don't know when it became acceptable but evil is always with and among us.  Doesn't mean it's right.  Doesn't mean we lie down without a fight but it's reality.

    A bad idea isn't responsible for those who believe it. ---Stephen Cannell

    by YellerDog on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 12:50:31 AM PST

  •  In general, we spoil each other, by carefully (0+ / 0-)

    doing as expected,
    to avoid getting anyone else angry.

    That's why,
    when we see folks doing anything
    that pisses us off,
    we are so upset.

    For example,
    in traffic,
    I've never seen anyone
    play chicken,
    car against car,
    swerving across the center line.

    In walking in a crowded place,
    I've never seen anyone
    push someone else down,
    and laugh.

    Because our rules of courtesy
    are followed so closely,
    and so universally,
    we get truly pissed
    when the rules change.

    I work at a Walmart store,
    and it's very busy,
    very crowded.

    Our widest, busiest aisles
    have 4' x 4' displays of merchandise,
    right down the center of the aisle,
    making the aisle into two aisles,
    and each aisle is just wide enough for one shopping cart
    to pass easily;
    if two shoppers with carts,
    or even without,
    start to meet head on,
    one of them must go to the other lane,
    or duck into a side aisle.

    You would think it would work best
    if everyone would keep to the right.

    But they don't.

    folks are coming at you
    from both lanes.

    It is tedious
    to walk through my workplace.

    And pedestrians
    in our home town
    often walk three abreast,
    down the right side of the street.

    My wife has tried to drive up slowly,
    and nudge them,
    get their attention.

    Didn't quite do it,
    but almost.

    She says when she was a kid,
    she'd get on the curb
    when a car was coming
    (no sidewalks in our neighborhood).

    None of this is serious,
    but it does seem that the rules are gradually

    I just stand still,
    at my Walmart store.

    What can I do?

    By the way,
    don't shop at my Walmart
    between the hours of
    and two AM.

    Only shop between
    two AM
    and noon.


    •  My husband has PTSD. (0+ / 0-)

      Therefore either we go during a time where there are no people (midnight) or we go when there are people and he sits in the car.

      When you come to find how essential the comfort of a well-kept home is to the bodily strength and good conditions, to a sound mind and spirit, and useful days, you will reverence the good housekeeper as I do above artist or poet, beauty or genius.

      by Alexandra Lynch on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 08:52:11 AM PST

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      •  That makes sense to me. (0+ / 0-)

        It was even worse than usual
        the last few days,
        just before Christmas.

        I sometimes count
        how many times
        I have to stop,
        and let others pass,
        in just one short trip
        halfway across the store.

        Sometimes five or six times.

        Maybe I'm gradually getting used to it.

  •  About the same time (0+ / 0-)

    we started to become a police state.

    We're turning into N. Korea with nukes.

    The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honored and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage laborers. - The Communist Manifesto

    by nolagrl on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 01:40:35 PM PST

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