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At the time, the prime minister, John Howard, said, “We do not want the American disease imported into Australia.” The laws have worked. The American Journal of Law and Economics reported in 2010 that firearm homicides in Australia dropped 59 percent between 1995 and 2006. In the 18 years before the 1996 laws, there were 13 gun massacres resulting in 102 deaths, according to Harvard researchers, with none in that category since.
The America disease?

It's the guns, stupid!

Sometime ago, I was so unguarded as to come right out and say that I thought something was really pathetically wrong with the gun culture in this country.

Boy, did I get jumped on by the RKBA claque that hangs around to jump on people like me to silence them. A case of a misinterpretation of the Second Amendment stomping the hell all over the First Amendment, like my right to free speech.

But the God damned disease has gone too far. Fuck! It went too damned far years ago but the assholes wouldn't listen and they stomped the hell out of anyone who said otherwise.

But I am going to repeat the following over and over and over again:

We must have a long and serious and detailed and in-depth discussion of the horrific amount of recurring gun violence in this nation.

The discussion should have begun years ago.

A misinterpretation of the Second Amendment has trumped the First Amendment.

The opening provision of the Second Amendment reads:

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State ... “
The security of a free state is encoded in the First Amendment. It must be remembered that the First Amendment, first and foremost of the amendments, is meant to be protected by the provisions of the Second Amendment.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

In other words, “Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...”

But, persons who have maliciously chosen to misinterpret the Second Amendment to say that it speaks only of individual ownership of guns have also traitorously silenced the first and primary freedoms of a free State delineated in the First Amendment – and we, the citizens of that supposed Free State, are not allowed to discuss gun violence in this nation.

As a result, gun violence in every possible nook and cranny of this supposed Free State erupts over and over and over again.

We must restore the First Amendment. We must be free to act as citizens of a Free State protected by the provisions of the Second Amendment, and we must have a long and serious and detailed discussion of the horrific amount of recurring gun violence in this nation.

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  •  Been there ... (5+ / 0-)
    Boy, did I get jumped on by the RKBA claque that hangs around to jump on people like me to silence them.
    Seen it all to often . I do so love that they are now asking for people to be civil towards them .

    "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

    by indycam on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 11:27:08 AM PST

  •  IN Context.... (2+ / 0-)
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    Most people don't know what the hell “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State ... “ MEANS for the time period in which the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were written.

    I daresay 99.999999% of the NRA members have never even watched TV documentaries about colonial America or the Revolutionary War to get a HINT about what "a well regulated Militia" IS, let alone read anything beyond grade school history about anything in the US prior to the signing of the Declaration of Independence, and probably don't know the difference between that and the Constitution.

    I do genealogy research.  Some of my ancestors were on ATBA [Able To Bear Arms] lists which means they were in local militias..., which means they (perhaps) had a gun, or, if they had no gun, perhaps they at least knew how to use one.  The ones who arrived on the Mayflower explored a bit of the shoreline and that region that didn't take them far.  During the winter of 1620, likely any man on an ATBA or Militia list was put to work digging graves.  About half of the passengers died that first winter.  Mostly, they were busy building the first houses and a compound.  Military drills were not part of that, but perhaps they took guns with them when they grabbed their axes or saws and cut down trees to build houses.

    Fast forward to King Philip's War.  The Militia from Marshfield were called to go to Rhode Island to help fight the Indians.  My maternal line ancestor with the group, Wm. Sherman, returned to Marshfield and was said to thereafter "suffer bouts of temporary insanity" for what he'd seen in the Great Swamp Fight in RI.  It's probably lucky he died relatively young.  His widow was the daughter of Edward Doty of the Mayflower; Desire, the new widow and mother of several small children, got a small pension..., then went on to marry two more times, had additional children with each, and outlived all three husbands.  In my paternal line of ancestors who lived in RI, also Great Swamp Fight, my ancestor, John Tefft, was killed by Indians, beheaded, and left unburied for a while.  He was caught out looking for his second son, whose wife was reportedly an Indian woman, was later taken prisoner and he was accused of firing on colonists.  He was executed for treason..., but oddly enough, in a kind of "whoops, we may have been a bit hasty in our judgment" action, his lands were not confiscated by the crown, and his son was allowed to inherit.  [John's eldest son, brother of the one who was executed, was my ancestor.]

    Fast forward to the Revolutionary War.  In my maternal line my ancestor, Andrew Bennett, who was born in Maine [which was technically part of MA at the time] enlisted for three years in January 1777.  He served three years, and the day his enlistment expired in Jan. 1780, he reenlisted and served through the end of the war and was honorably discharged at Newburgh in June 1778 after serving "six years and ten months."  His discharge paper was signed by G. Washington himself (I compared the signature in the microfilm image with what's on the Wiki page, and they're written by the same person).  I knew Andrew was in the Rev. War..., but I only found his application for a pension dated 1818 a couple of weeks ago which listed several famous battles he was at.  He applied for the pension because he had broken his thigh bone and shoulder bone, his wife and two youngest kids (under age 10) were still at home and couldn't do all the work on the farm themselves, so he had to apply for the pension (he got it).  In the same file were his discharge papers.  After looking at the list of battles he was in, I'm surprised he made it home at all..., and just a short time ago I found a muster roll from 1777-78, the hard winter when Andrew was at Valley Forge.  In June 1778 he was listed as sick at Yellow Springs Hospital (with what, it doesn't say, but lots of men died over that difficult winter of dysentery, pneumonia, and typhus).  I'm slowly accumulating a month-by-month, year-by-year timeline of the battles and events in which the 8th Massachusetts Regiment of the Massachusetts Line participated.

    When the Revolutionary War started, there was NO standing army, no one but local militia men from all over to staff this hodgepodge group of untrained soldiers who had no uniforms, no supplies of food, no shelter, no ammunition, were lucky to have a gun (some didn't, in fact), they brought nothing with them except the clothes on their backs and (if lucky) a gun.  That's it.  Their shoes wore out quickly, and there was no way to replace them.... until later when France sent clothing and other necessary things for soldiers to have (that was all Ben Franklin's doing, BTW - he spent most of the war in France begging for supplies, help, and finally got it).  Once their enlistment was up, they had to wait until the money arrived and they could get paid before they could go home, so while they were waiting for that, they were considered on furlough.

    War ended..., the rag-tag soldiers went home.

    Back to NO standing army.  The Continental Congress met to hammer out the Constitution.  The states wanted these other things..., which became the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment.

    The Continental Congress knew that if they had another situation come up where they had to fight a war that soldiers would have to bring their own guns with them when they enlisted..., which is WHY the Second Amendment starts out “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State ... “

    The US did not, in fact, have a standing military force until after the War of 1812.

    BUT..., do you think many/any of the NRA members know these interesting little tidbits about how and why the Second Amendment is worded the way it is...?????  They just gloss right over the opening clause: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State ... “ and go straight to "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" and ignore the first part....

    In this particular case, CONTEXT is everything.

    BTW, if you want something to watch between now and New Year's if you get some six hours of "free time," I highly recommend the PBS series:

    PBS:  Liberty!

    PBS:  Timeline of the Revolution [part of the Liberty! web site]

    The Documentary Site [on YouTube] has put Liberty! online.

    Liberty: The American Revolution - Episode 1 of 6 - The Reluctant Revolutionaries

    Liberty: The American Revolution - Episode 2 of 6 - Blows Must Decide

    Liberty: The American Revolution - Episode 3 of 6 - The Times That Try Men's Souls

    Liberty: The American Revolution - Episode 4 of 6 - Oh Fatal Ambition

    Liberty: The American Revolution - Episode 5 of 6 - The World Turned Upside Down

    Liberty: The American Revolution - Episode 6 of 6 - Are We to be a Nation

    The History Channel put out a longer series (13 episodes) called Revolution, and I discovered the last two episodes are mostly re-stating and reviewing the first eleven, so it's not necessarily as good.  It does have some nice moments, but PBS has the better series.  I was bawling by the end of the fifth and sixth episodes.

    Knowing my ancestors were THERE and risked it all for the sake of an ideal carries a heavier emotional impact.... [I had other ancestors in the Rev. War; Andrew just happens to be the one for whom I've found a LOT more info than I have on the others.]  If the Continental Army had lost..., they would have all been executed as traitors..., and a traitor's death means being hanged, drawn, and quartered....

    OH, and the NRA?  They're not fit to kiss my cute little feet, let alone my callipygian arse, since they obviously know nothing about the circumstances under which the Second Amendment was written, nor the history of the origins of our nation.  Lacking historical knowledge about something they purport to claim as their right just means they're ignorant bastages who take pride in keeping themselves uneducated....

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 01:07:33 PM PST

    •  Gah! (1+ / 0-)
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      Discharge date is 13 June 1783!

      I have Valley Forge winter of 1777/'78 on my brain after finding the web site with the transcriptions of the muster rolls on it.


      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 01:14:05 PM PST

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