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Hi. I'm a Kossack & I really need to lose some weight. I'm hoping there are other Kossacks in the same boat. I thought I'd write a diary & see who is out there. I think this should be (at least) a weekly series if we're going to be serious. This may be a bad time to launch a new series, but I'm kicking my efforts into high gear, so now is when I'm doing this. If you're doing the same maybe we can support each other.

Come below the orange fleur-de-lis & we'll talk about it.

Here's the page for the pre-existing Weight Loss Kos group:http://www.dailykos.com/...

I don't know about you, but I've got a lot of stuff going on. I belong to an irl weight loss group - we meet for workouts T/Th evenings & Saturday mornings. But I've had to stop doing the long walks because I have bone spurs that have my achilles tendons in a lot of pain. Also, I haven't really lost a lot of weight, so while I love them, maybe it is time to try something else. In the spring, I join a triathlon training group, which I dearly, dearly love -- but their focus is training for the Danskin, not losing weight (there's not that many of us big girls who do triathlons). Oh -- the members are having a pre-season weight loss contest. As the biggest one on the team, I think I have an advantage -- more to lose & all that.

So I really need to get on the ball if I'm going to win. Also, I'm registered for the Livestrong Half Marathon in February. If I'm going to do it (I've done it twice before, it was really hard & painful), I really need to drop some pounds before then.

So that's all the reasons I have for re-invigorating this group, starting a diary series, etc. If anyone else is interested, let's see if there's enough of us to make a go of it. And since there seems to be a big fight going on right now, let's keep it supportive & friendly here. And on topic - food, exercise, weight loss, what it's like being overweight..... stuff like that. But please keep whatever fights from other diaries in those diaries. My intention is writing this diary is to find other Kossacks to support each other in weight loss.

What do you do for fitness? Exercise on your own, WiiFit or Xbox, walk/run/bike/swim on your own? Any suggestions for someone who can't do stuff on her feet? And when do you want to write your diary?

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  •  Just started exercising at home again (18+ / 0-)

    Now that I've got last year's anemia ... and the holidays ... behind me.

    Have an elliptical and rower at home, and a set of adjustable dumbbells that I use for exercises.

    Now to keep it up!

    "We're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this," President Obama, 12/14/12

    by bjedward on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:07:32 AM PST

    •  having trouble keeping at it (exercise) (1+ / 0-)
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      1864 House

      I fell off the ex.bike habit a couple of months ago, have GOT to get back on!

      we have a reclining ex.bike that we have set up in the LR, so we can read or watch TV while we pedal. Teh Hubban' is managing his Type 2, and I'm trying to lose weight & manage (stave off) the family high blood pressure. that WAS working back when I was actually pedaling...

      this equipt. works for me because of the chair-type seat (can't use regular shape bicycle seat any more); and no need to rest my weight on carpal wrists, as on most regular bikes. I can & do ride some outside, during better weather, but it hurts.

      very frustrating actually, no matter how hard I work at the ex. or the food management, I'm almost exactly where i was about 4 years ago when we started (because his Type 2 was diagnosed). of course, I am 8 yrs older (65) and female, so there are all those factors complicating the process, and I guess I really wouldn't want to lose weight the way he did! (although he lost 70# in about 2 mo.)

      IF I could lose about 60# I'd be a LOT better off, if still over 30# higher than all the charts say! (can't possibly think of it in terms of 90-100#, I'd never get myself up to start! AND I think 130 would just be ridiculous, I probably haven't weight that since I was 14 or something. but I really wouldn't mind getting back down to 160. that would feel reasonable.)

      "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

      by chimene on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 03:12:05 PM PST

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  •  good luck with this , a/d. (16+ / 0-)

    i want to lose 10 pounds.  it always sounds so easy yet it's so hard to do.

    we're thinking about getting an elliptical, but know nothing about them and don't know what to look for when evaluating them.

    my diet is not that bad and won't take much work, but i won't lose much weight by changing it.  it's exercise i need, and i hate exercise.  i think i'm pre-hypertensive too, so i'm getting motivated to learn to include exercise whether i like it or not.

    it's a mental attitude adjustment i need in a bad way.

    i don't know if i'd fit in your weight loss group since i really don't want to lose a lot of weight, but really want to get my blood pressure down.  what do you think?

    "The Republican party primarily exists to represent the interests of business elites in the political sphere and redistribute power and resources to the wealthy. Its enduring values beyond that end have always been up for grabs." Gary Younge

    by politik on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:16:32 AM PST

  •  As someone who is 25lbs overweight (16+ / 0-)

    I hear you. I've dropped 15lbs before but I need to do it again and have a routine that is much more permanent.

    A good routine can lead to healthy weight loss.

    Trying to keep these habits permanent:
    drink more water (already ended habitual pop drinking)
    consume at least an apple and tangerine per day
    Once I get to "80%" full, I STOP EATING.

    As far as exercise goes, I already walk to school and I'm generally on my feet doing research. In class and doing homework, I'm on my butt. IF you can't always be on your feet, that limits your options. I'd say solve lots of math problems after eating...

    Last semester of classes for me so I hope it's the last semester of excessive sitting. :P

    GL with the weight loss!

    Why hello there reality, how are you doing?

    by Future Gazer on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:16:39 AM PST

  •  may I ask you? (7+ / 0-)

    what do you think is causing you to gain weight?  I found that food allergies and improper food combining at meals was causing my weight gain.  When I do not get all of the components in my meals, such as amino acids, enzymes, etc., I am always hungry.

    •  with me (3+ / 0-)

      With me, it's stress.  I'm under stress, I gain weight.  If I cut the stress, even if I'm living with the same habits and exercise routine I'll drop weight.  

      If my life is stressful, I can exercise all I want and watch my diet like a hawk and I'll still subconsciously sabotage myself and 'wake up' having scarfed a candy bar from the office vending machine without consciously remembering pulling out change or walking to the break room.

      •  yikes! been there (4+ / 0-)

        I recommend the book "The Four Agreements," by Don Miguel Ruiz.  Also, "The Power of Now," by Eckhart Tolle.
        They teach that present moment awareness comes before you can change any behavior, and the programs are running in the background all the time, ready to take over when you are not conscious.  When I start my day with readings from these books, I am prepared for surprises.

        I wish you well!

    •  too much cheese (3+ / 0-)
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      not enough regular, sustained exercise. I train for stuff in the spring, taper off through the summer, then by fall I'm a couch potato again. Sigh.

      •  yes, there is a saying (2+ / 0-)
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        greengemini, anotherdemocrat

        "cheese closes the mouth," i.e. satisfies hunger quickly.  Unfortunately, it hangs around my middle...

      •  You know, I don't know that cheese (1+ / 0-)
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        anotherdemocrat

        is the problem.  I can't speak for all people, only myself, but I have lots of dairy.  I eat cheese almost every day, drink milk every day, and often have some heavy cream as well.  Oh and I eat and cook with a LOT of butter.  My nutritionist says butter and olive oil are the only things I should be cooking with so if she says butter is okay, then butter is okay.  Now, I try and eat organic and have organic or all natural, grass fed milk (also 1% and 2% is better than whole or skim).  Also, imported European cheeses and organic cheeses are better than processed cheeses.  Let me tell you, cheese is my ally in my fight to become healthy and stay healthy.  It's a filling protein.  Also, when I start emotional eating and just pigging out for no reason, by having some cheese and nuts around, I ensure that I don't do damage to myself.  

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        by SoCalLiberal on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 02:41:53 PM PST

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  •  Just started back up after (11+ / 0-)

    the holidays.

    I ran the Dallas 1/2 marathon in early december.  It was my 1st one (and probably only one).  It was painful, but I finished in 2:30 and it was quite an experience.

    My weight flucutates, especialy during the holidays.  I probably need to lose around 10 lbs, maybe 15.  I am playing tennis (singles) 2 times a week, and doing weight training and some treadmill running at the gym.  Hope to be back at my ideal weight by mid to late February.

    "This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around..."

    by cgvjelly on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:18:50 AM PST

  •  I too need to loose a fair amount of weight. (12+ / 0-)

    I dislike 'exercise'.  I find it incredibly boring!!  Which of course leads to a severe lack of motivation to do so.  What's worse is that I work from home now and my job has been a desk job for a large number of years.  I'm usually pretty good about not bringing too much 'bad' stuff into the house, but...

  •  Yesterday I finally found my copy of (8+ / 0-)

    The Life-Transforming Diet.

    The last time I used it, I lost 20 pounds in 6 weeks and it felt like I was barely doing more than checking the book to see what I was supposed to be doing this week.  Do I need to say I'm going to use it again?  As of yesterday?

    I did a review of it for the occasional "Chewing the Fat" (What can I say? I wasn't the only Prophet who liked bad puns) weight loss series we had when Street Prophets was a separate concern.

    Strength and dignity are her clothing, she rejoices at the days to come; She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the law of kindness is on her tongue.

    by loggersbrat on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:20:30 AM PST

  •  just remove something from your diet (10+ / 0-)

    try bread or some bread. maybe  no bread after lunch.  that should help and then vegetables, vegetables, vegetables.

  •  Been there...doing that (12+ / 0-)

    Kudos to you, anotherdemocrat.

    I lost 30 pounds 4 years ago and have kept them off and then some. I started by eating a core group of foods, knowing the calories in them, and being very disciplined for about 4 months. The weight fell off. I was walking as much as possible for exercise.

    Then I became a runner. Yes me, who hates running. I love it now. And I can eat almost anything i want in moderation now. I also do bootcamp workouts. There are a lot online, but if you can find one locally, that's ideal. You can modify it however you see fit. Our local community ed offers them as drop ins.

    I track my exercise and everything I eat on MyFitnessPal.com. I have a group of friends doing it too now and we all support each other. There's a strong community forum too.

    For your achilles - there are lots of stretching exercises that are beneficial. I have a problem with posterior tibial tendonitis and achilles tightness and what's been reallly helpful is stretching the calf before and after exercise. Foam rolling is good too.

    I don't have access to swimming in the cold months, or I'd be your virtual training partner. A few months ago I tried a duathlon and loved it! Unfortunately around here (New England), there are only a handful of duathlons (when it's too cold for tris I guess).

    But I can help wtih the running. I'll never forget completing my first half. Such a sense of accomplishment. I have no desire to do a marathon, but I may do another half some day. For now it's 5 and 10ks mostly.

    I swear by Jillian Michaels DVDs if you are the type of person who can do that at home. I love Banish Fat, Boost Your Metabolism and No More Trouble Zones.

    Also I just discovered fitnessblender videos. http://www.fitnessblender.com/...

    Most require no equipment except what you were born with. They are very easy to follow and I love the variety. If I have only 8 minutes, there's a video I can do. No excuses. :-)

    Hope some of this is helpful and count me in for support.

    May we never forget the fallen. Help us remember them in the IGTNT tributes.

    by greenies on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:30:25 AM PST

  •  Handy tip (11+ / 0-)

    First of all, have a breakfast each day. Not cereal but something like a couple of eggs with toast. The protein is digested slowly so you do not feel so hungry so quickly.

    One other thing you can do is to eat alone. If you eat in the company of others - especially in groups of family or friends, you consume more. A bit anti-social but could explain why you are not loosing weight in the context of the workout group.

    Finally, forget the February half marathon. This year concentrate on low impact exercise - swimming or cycling for example. Attempting to shed weight too quickly will be bad for your heart and from the sound of those bone spurs, you will only be carried off halfway through with some form of injury.  Depending on your starting weight, you should only be aiming for a loss of 0.5 - 1 Kg a week over an extended period (1-2 lbs). By the way, do not weigh yourself more that once every two weeks, ideally for women only at the same time in their monthly cycle - yes once a month. Otherwise you will be concentrating on aiming for a weekly weight loss which will be irrelevant if your weight changes with the monthly body rhythm. Most people hit a plateau for several weeks where you have very little loss a few months in, so keep up with the same diet etc to work through it.

    "Who stood against President Obama in 2012?" - The trivia question nobody can answer.

    by Lib Dem FoP on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:36:03 AM PST

  •  I Have Lost Over 60 Pounds (14+ / 0-)

    ...since 2004.... but at one point I was down 85 so I've backtracked a bit.  I don't believe in New Years Resolutions, but "recently" I did start Weight Watchers again (which is how I lost most of that weight).  Best of luck to you... it really REALLY helps if you have friends you can work on it with.

    Too Folk For You. - Schmidting in the Punch Bowl - verb - Committing an unexpected and underhanded political act intended to "spoil the party."

    by TooFolkGR on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:37:37 AM PST

  •  My dad and my brother (5+ / 0-)

    Both got bike trainers for Christmas.  I know they're expensive, but I'm sure you can find a good used one online for less.  They basically turn your bike into an exercisie bike.  Just a suggestion if you like bicycling, and it's less impact on your feet/lower legs.

  •  I answered Pie (3+ / 0-)
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    woodtick, Onomastic, anotherdemocrat

    because I take an hour-long core fitness class twice a week that is not part of a gym or chain. I have a treadmill and some weights at home.

    Count me in and I'll be good for a diary or two once we get going.

    They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself. - Andy Warhol

    by 1864 House on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:48:33 AM PST

  •  A few years ago, I lost over 50 lbs. (6+ / 0-)

    I have recently put some (@10) back on, so I need to get serious again, but I had joined a gym, and did circuit training, and I did/do a lot of walking.  On the days my lovely wife & I carpool (3 a week), I walk the last 1.7 miles to work, and on my lunch hour I always do at least a 1.25 mile walk.

    GOP Agenda: Repeal 20th Century.

    by NormAl1792 on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:49:04 AM PST

  •  I just dug out my copy of (5+ / 0-)

    The Serotonin Solution by Dr. Judith Wurtman. The last time I did this eating plan I lost 10 pounds without trying much. I found I cannot eat a high protein low carb diet. I literally feel like I am on some kind of drug that makes me crazy. I was drinking shakes that were high protein, low carb and I kept checking the ingredients to see what was making me feel that way. After I read this book it made sense to me, that I crave serotonin. She has a new book out that I may get on Kindle.

    You must be in the Austin area (I noticed Hill Country). My son is signed up for the half marathon, too!

    Friends don't let friends vote Republican.

    by OhioNatureMom on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:53:28 AM PST

  •  just before the holidays (7+ / 0-)

    my doctor became alarmed by my blood glucose levels and blood pressure and told me to get a substantial amount of weight off or prepare to go on insulin and other meds.  I would prefer not to, as I already take a bunch of stuff to control asthma so...

    I'm using FitDay, a software food, activity and weight tracker, and am down about 10 pounds since December 1;  I'm now walking more, aiming to get my pedometer steps up to 10,000 by the end of the month.  I have a treadmill handy to use so I can top up my steps if my daily activity doesn't get it done.  I'm aiming for about 1500 calories per day, with strict limits on refined carbs and lots of vegetables and lean protein.  No alcohol, no caffeine after my morning cup of coffee.  Lots of water.

    The last couple of years work and family issues really piled up the stress and depression and inactivity and pounds.  Now that I am preparing for retirement this summer I'm devoting more time to things I enjoy and I want to be in shape to garden on a significant scale this season.  So I'll be following your progress.

  •  I know people want to set goals, but.... (7+ / 0-)

    if you are that overweight (as you suggest) and are already struggling with some orthopedic issues, I'm not sure targeting events like triathlons and half marathons is the best way to go about it. These types of events require a high volume of training, which not only increases the physical stress, but can divert you from your real need, which is to reduce your calorie intake.

    At a certain point, training for a longer endurance event can become a little counterproductive to losing weight. You'd think it would be the opposite--all the physical activity would make it easier. However, at some point, many people start increasing their food intake to have enough energy for the training; or the higher volume of training increases the stress on the body that can interfere with weight loss.

    One more thing: a lot of extra performance training can also leave you feeling more fatigued, or result in extra soreness that can result in a person reducing their overall casual activity, which then reduces total daily energy expenditure and works against you.

    One of the few "cliches" about fitness and weight loss that has some true to it is the phrase "losing weight is 75% diet and 25% exercise). It is very difficult to "out exercise" your diet.

    It's very important to exercise, and successful weight loss requires a volume of exercise. However, I think a program tailored towards general fitness might be a better choice than one focused on an endurance event. That means 4-5 days of 30-60 min of cardio at various intensities, plus 2 days of resistance training. Combine this with a sensible, portion-controlled diet, and I think there is a greater chance of success.

    America works best when it works for everyone.

    by Azdak on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 06:56:47 AM PST

    •  best advice for those of us who are a bit older (6+ / 0-)

      and with health problems is small steps, always small steps. Our current condition took time to develop and will take time to heal

    •  May I gently disagree with this to some extent? (1+ / 0-)
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      1864 House

      Yes, I've heard that too--weight loss is mostly diet, not so much exercise.

      I used to believe that until my niece came to Thanksgiving dinner.  I hadn't seen her for a year, as she lives across the river in Washington, DC, and our paths rarely cross.  OMG, WHAT a transformation!

      The last time I saw her she was billowy and now she's willowy.  I've rarely seen such a tiny waist and she hasn't been as slim as this since she was a child.  The reason?  She can't afford a car so she either has to use the Metro or ride a bike to get to where she needs to go.

      It can't be diet, if her Facebook postings are to be believed.  She has two jobs, one as hair stylist and one as a bartender, and she apparently knocks back quite a few beers.  

      When I saw her I thought, "Why don't I get a bike?"  But I live in the suburbs where there are literally no bike paths to any stores.  Moreover, I'm an old bag and if I were to fall off I'd probably break something.  But my goodness, I had no idea that riding a bike would transform a person's figure the way it has for my niece.

      "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

      by Diana in NoVa on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 12:02:02 PM PST

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  •  Here you go (4+ / 0-)
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    woodtick, Debby, anotherdemocrat, MKSinSA

    This book was very helpful for me.  My best friend had even more spectacular results than I did, but he had more to lose.  Good luck.

  •  We started our diet contest at work today. (5+ / 0-)

    We had our weigh-in this morning.

    EEEEEEEKK!!!!!!!!

    I gained 20 pounds over the holidays, so I've got some work to do.

    Funny thing, I kept up my exercise routine throughout the holidays, so it's a mystery why I gained so much.

    At this time of year, I walk 3 miles on the treadmill, five days a week.  But when the temperature is over 40, I'll go out on a walk so that my dog can get her exercise, too.

    I'm also on weightwatchers.com.  If I stick to my point allowance, I should be able to get rid of this extra weight by the end of Feb.

  •  In. (4+ / 0-)

    Hopefully. We'll see. I may need to join WW because I need some sort of accountability. Maybe that could be WLK (oh, my, Weight Loss Kos's acronym could be read as WALK!). A daily morning diary for checking in and reporting seems necessary. What did you have in mind?

    Lately, I've been very stuttery with my efforts, mostly because of distraction, finding time to fit it in. I have access to a gym with a nice fitness center and good classes. I've been taking yoga since last summer and it makes me feel good but doesn't do anything for weight loss. I try to get in and walk on the treadmill because it's so easy (no weather concerns) but I get sidetracked. It just takes commitment, doesn't it?

    And while exercise is helpful, I've found diet is the key to weight loss but I don't have an idea of what to do there. I've done WW a couple times with good results but obviously didn't change habits enough no to backslide. Simple calorie counting seems best as it makes you aware of what you're eating. Should I get a book? Is there a website?

    So, yeah, in.

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    by Debby on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:10:01 AM PST

    •  There are a number of websites or apps (3+ / 0-)

      to help with tracking food intake.

      Most of them now have pretty large food databases, so it is easier to find the foods you actually eat.

      The biggest challenge at first is committing to weighing, measuring, and charting everything that you eat. It's a big time commitment and PTIA at first, but I think it is totally necessary. Most studies that have looked at poor weight loss results have shown that 70% of the time, it is due to people underestimating their food intake. So, IMO, a digital scale and some type of tracking system are almost mandatory at first.

      As a calorie tracker that is easy to use and has a good community, I have been happy with a site called My Fitness Pal (www.myfitnesspal.com). They have a good database, it's simple, and, to the best of my knowledge, they don't bombard you with email like a lot of other sites do.

      America works best when it works for everyone.

      by Azdak on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:17:23 AM PST

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      •  I use (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Debby

        The Hacker's Diet Online Web site to track my weight. The book explaining the method is available from the site as a free epub.

        I have measured the things I eat, and I am able to eat the same amount of the same dishes consistently (mostly) so that I don't have to weigh and calculate them over and over.

        America—We built that!

        by Mokurai on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:39:23 AM PST

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      •  I'm a 'fatsecret.com' guy, which also does (1+ / 0-)
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        1864 House

        really good for tracking, also letting you track macronutrients (carbs, net vs fiber, protein, fat) as well as things like sodium, potassium, calories and so on.  A kitchen scale is great for those first few months, until you've actually got a sense for how much is roughly what, and I tracked down to the gram those early months.

        I don't think their 'activity' tracker is nearly as well tuned, though, as my 'activities' rarely line up neatly with my actual weight loss, so I mainly just tracked caloric intake.

  •  Work from home (4+ / 0-)

    As a virtual employee, I work out of my house.  My key is to keep from having too much junk in the house to eat.  Also, I keep a recumbent exercise bike in my office, and swing my monitor that direction during meetings.  Although if you aren't on mute, participants will wonder who is doing the heavy breathing, and why....

    I've also started using my son's ankle weights just to increase what little work I do, like walking around the yard during some meetings.  

    Good luck.  I'm hoping to tackle the Capitol 10K this year, but anything above that is out of the question, for now.

    "Sometimes paranoia's just having all the facts." William S. Burroughs

    by SaltWaterCroc on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:11:57 AM PST

  •  right now nothing though I gained 17 lbs (1+ / 0-)
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    Dr Erich Bloodaxe RN

    in last 3 months.  Extreme problems with gout in both feet makes most exercise extremely painful while CVAs have caused me to lose about 60% of function on my left side.

    Right now I am considering getting a recumbent bike and see if I am able to do that without too much pain to my joints

  •  I lost 80 lbs in 2012 (4+ / 0-)

    and have kept 70 lbs off.  I gradually substituted raw fruits and veggies for meals and snacks until I acheived my weight loss goal and backed off for the holiday season. I've put on 10 lbs in the last 2 months (mostly muscle). I do body weight exercises throughout the day and yoga every night during family tv time.

    Food diary helped me stay motivated and get started at the begining.

  •  Nutrition and Dietetics student here (4+ / 0-)

    The bottom line is exercise merely compliments a weight loss program.  The primary goal is to change your diet.  Unfortunately there is a great deal of bias and even misinformation and bad science when it comes to standard methods of accomplishing this goal and it has affected public/common knowledge.  The spin in food politics is no different than what we see on cable news networks when it comes to electoral politics, but it is more subliminal, more complex and has been saturating for quite some time.  I can say now up front, what people think they know about dieting is just not true.  It's not about your total calories.  Dieting should not focus on severe caloric restriction coupled with rigorous exercise.  There are good calories and bad calories and they're not all the same.  It would take some time for me to teach you how to most effectively lose weight in a way that is both healthy and sustainable and you have to be willing to question your sources and unlearn some of the things you've heard from sources both casual and scientific or credible.

    •  I hope you will diary what we need to know (4+ / 0-)

      or at least post some links to reliable information.

      America—We built that!

      by Mokurai on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:41:00 AM PST

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      •  Healthy living is ongoing (3+ / 0-)
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        So if/when I diary, I hope to educate over a long period of time rather than just try to pack it all into one diary.  I can compose a diary that could serve as a template, but from there I would want further discussion, question and answer and collaboration from all Kossacks.  If this diarist wants to start the group Weight Loss Kos I'd gladly join and contribute on a weekly basis.  This is my last semester then I start a dietetic internship.  I will be busy but I do love discussing human health and food politics.  This career change I chose has merged and concentrated all my life interests into one path.  Just think of how long it has taken America to unlearn trickle down economic theory or how long the climate change "debate" maintained two sides, both claiming hard science...the food policy has permeated the collective conscience even further.

        •  I was wondering (2+ / 0-)
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          if a group format might be better, an easier way to communicate. I think the tag predates the group concept at Kos but no reason not to evolve!

          An unsuccessful shoe bomb attack resulted in nine years of inconvenience for every flier in the country. It would be nice to think [this diabolical act] might lead to some similar inconveniences. --mrblifil

          by Debby on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:59:33 AM PST

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          •  Weight Loss Kos (1+ / 0-)
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            It has a nice ring to it for sure.  And the country is predominantly overweight, obese and the food supply, food policy and food industry is the primary cause of our health care crises.  Yet we haven't even begun to unravel the lies or identify the triggers and underlying causes of the epidemic.  

            Solving this problem is going to require an army of PhD's collaborating with ordinary folks affecting by it and struggling with these changes in real time.  

            We have to start somewhere.  

  •  Intake & exercise (6+ / 0-)

    I had reached a high point of 385.  Starting Jan 2012 I tackled my intake and focused on my choices.  I feel like some sort of weight loss expert over the years having joined WW, medifast, Jcraig, etc.  - The bottom line many experts have said is:  It's 80% intake, and 20% exercise.

    In 2012 I have lost 80 lbs.  In 2013 I will lose another 80.  My focus is on the food choices I make.  Between the South Beach Diet and the Cave Man's Diet, I have had the most immediate effects both weight and health wise.  Basically, I focus on breaking the sugar addiction from eating sweets and the converted sugars from bad carbs.

    My weight dropped quickly when I eliminated carbs and sugars.  The first 2-4 weeks I experienced withdrawls and I can say they are the hardest weeks.  After that, I developed a routine and was very happy with my progress.  A side benefit was my negative test numbers from the doctor dropped significantly.  My sugar level dropped 25%, taking me out of diabetic risk stage. So many other numbers dropped too. Very quickly.  Results were evident thru blood tests in 40 days. My only negative thing about this protein approach and moving away from carbs/sugars is digestive.  Either eat a lot of fruits and vegetables, and/or take meds for softening bowel movements.

    As far as exercise, for the obese, I recommend moderation. I've learned to just walk and stretch in the early months.  I've experienced injuries from pushing myself early after leading such a senditary life of limited movement. I do try and walk 30min a day at least 5x week.  

    After 6 months I started taking Gentle Yoga classes. I can testify that these classes improved my quality of life as much as the wieight loss.  The weight loss was huge, but Yoga got rid of so many aches and pains with back, legs, feet, etc.  I routinly bend over & touch toes without getting dizzy or losing balance.  Nothing much for most, but for me (someone obese) a big improvement.

    Good luck to all.

  •  I would caution against using any "diet" .... (1+ / 0-)
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    Debby

    or any other type of what I call "heroic interventions--like pills, supplements, etc.

    The fact is that losing weight is relatively easy -- keeping it off is extremely difficult. Those who lose weight using "external" means --e.g. "name" diets, odd ball eating plans, pills, supplements, etc---have about a 95% failure rate over two years. Eventually, almost everyone gains the weight back.

    So whatever steps you take, they have to be reasonable ones that you can do for a lifetime.

    America works best when it works for everyone.

    by Azdak on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:23:06 AM PST

    •  That's not really true (1+ / 0-)
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      the evidence that "almost everyone gains the weight back" has been disputed. In reality, the studies are quite contradictory. A study that claimed 95% or so gain everything back was widely reported a couple of years ago, but the study involved an extreme deprivation diet. Extreme deprivation is directly associated with rebound weight gain.

      Many people lose weight and keep it off, either on their own or through one of the more reputable companies. Basically any diet that encourages slow weight loss, health balanced eating, exercise, and some kind of tracking (awareness of eating) seems to do well.

  •  Fitbit and Y (4+ / 0-)
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    I have been using a Fitbit to track my activity. What I like about it is that it tracks all my movement throughout the day, not just when I am purposely working out. I spend too much time just sitting, and the Fitbit gives me a handle on that.

    Also, recently I joined the Y and discovered Expresso bikes. These are virtual reality bikes that give you different courses to ride on, with hills, etc. The faster/harder you pedal, the faster you move through the landscape. And you can set up a pace bike that sets whatever pace you want, or you can get a "ghost bike" that represents your previous fastest run on the course. I am totally hooked and do it almost every day for 30-40 min.

    My diet is fairly healthy - I emphasize veggies, whole grains, and lean meats, very little junk food - and I cut the portion sizes as much as I can without feeling achingly hungry, but it doesn't seem to be enough to lose weight for me.

    On the other hand, I don't have to take any prescription drugs, and at 66, that's an accomplishment. Most of my cohort have high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, or all three, so I must be doing something right, in spite of being overweight.

  •  I lost more than 50 pounds last summer (6+ / 0-)

    ...and the motivating factor was a personal one and still hurts like hell (yeah, seriously) but I did actually become a stronger person through it all. Starting last may, I began going to the local Y (in the very room where I was humiliated and cheated on) for a daily spin (whenever I had the time during the day), woke up at 4:30 am and walked 6 miles, 5 times a week. It is an amazing experience to see the cottontails, foxes and deer while smelling the aroma of honeysuckle bushes, plus the moon and the stars in those early morning's magic hour. The solitude and the beauty of nature kept me motivated, each day.  I also hit the gym, working around the weights, building strength and elasticity. I walk two inches taller now.

    Food: High protein and low carb diet is essential for weight loss. Especially at the beginning, you must say bye to the breads, potatoes, rice, pasta and all forms of sugars. If you are a vegetarian it will be tough but you can substitute meatless protein (which costs arm and a leg) while taking B12 as a supplement. I ate eggs, broiled sea food, chicken, lots of veggies and salads. Low fat yogurt, milk with chai, avocados, almond nuts (not too many) and occasional piece of dark chocolate keeps your taste buds happy, also.

    Here is a trick: Glass of water mixed with half of fresh lemon. Lots of it. Herbs: tons of fresh herbs chopped thinly and sprinkled on everything you eat. They add flavor and help cut down the salt. Fresh parsley is a natural diuretic, flushing out the access water loaded in our cells.

    Olive oil: from the heavens. Butter? Use the real one, albeit sparingly.

    Joy: Yeah, we need to enjoy life in order to be physically healthy. For this, there is only one commodity: find something you love to do, and do it. Be curious about something, have something to look forward to during your day. Every day. The world is full of wonders but we hardly ever notice them.

    Unhappiness makes us fat and unhealthy. All of those bad habits are a symptom of something lacking which we try to fix temporarily.

    Let us enjoy life and who we are without focusing on what we aren't and what we don't have. We have a lot but in this culture of material greed and artificial "happiness," we don't know what we have. This moment given to us,...it is passing. Let us, actually taste our food and draw pleasure from each bite, slowly. Let us slow down and enjoy each moment by recognizing the magic in it.

    Best

    "Corruptio Optimi Pessima" (Corruption of the best is the worst)

    by zenox on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:25:01 AM PST

    •  Olive oil, lemon juice (2+ / 0-)
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      Debby, 1864 House

      A tip for broiled meats: Marinate them in olive oil, lemon juice, salt, pepper, oregano, garlic and cumin. Add green pepper pieces during the broiling for extra flavor.  

      Flavoring of the food (and slow eating) is the key for feeling satisfied with the meal which helps to cut down the desire for mindless munching on junk food.

      Strong flavors like horse radish sauce and chopped arugula added on the dish when served would also help.

      I think we in the West got this "pleasure" thing wrong when it comes to food. Especially, the spice lacking, carb loaded, frozen, canned and bland diet of "Western kitchen" is the cause of our gorging ourselves on unhealthy food (while still feeling hungry and unsatisfied). Flavors gratify where large amounts of food fail.

      Mediterranean diet, Indian food and Asian food too have ingredients we in the West lack: Rich flavors and freshness. They don't overeat because they don't need to.

      I think we have come a long way in the United States in the last 30 years, moving from "yuck, how can you eat that olive oil" to hummus becoming gourmet food instead of dangerously and suspiciously sounding "foreign terroristic." He he...

      We still have a long way to go, however.  

      "Corruptio Optimi Pessima" (Corruption of the best is the worst)

      by zenox on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:54:18 AM PST

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    •  Most evenings I eat a half pound of mixed veggies (1+ / 0-)
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      1864 House

      for dinner (I get one lb bags of frozen veggies and eat half a bag, or there abouts).  I don't put butter, or cheese, or anything else but McCormick 'Veggie Melody' seasoning on them.  Much better than plain!!!  Although there is some brown sugar and salt in the ingredient list.  Even with that it's still better than using butter!

    •  I wouldn't say essential, but certainly very (1+ / 0-)
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      zenox

      helpful.  That's the route I took and am mostly still on.  I think it's more about making it easier to stay on track and not slip back.  Without the carbs, and especially the sugars, you don't get those blood sugar spikes and crashes as you digest that make you hungrier, so you don't tend to 'cheat' as much.

    •  Where does this no carbs (1+ / 0-)
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      mentality come from???? It's absurd. Over 100 lbs lost between my spouse and I and never once did we give up carbs in fact we gave up meat! and meat substitutes! and became vegans. We eat carbs and you can too! Any dietary restriction such as no carb/low carb/fat free is a lie, and sold to you to continue the yo-yo cycle. I eat what I want, when I want it. Including carbs. Promise you won't have high cholesterol if you aren't eating animals and their by products that are the source of cholesterol.

      Born in TN-05 and Live in TN-05, Went to college in TN-09 and TN-06, Married in IA-02.

      by zakandsantos on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 09:18:44 AM PST

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      •  I agree that in moderation there is room for (0+ / 0-)

        ...everything, including the carbs. The actual weight loss, however, is not possible without significant cutting down of carbs, at least for a while. It is not only the breads, pasta, rice, potatoes stuff but also the sugary drinks, pops, etc. that are responsible for the maintaining and the depositing of fat. The portion control does help but carbs act like drugs, making us want to eat more of them. In other words, they are habit forming too. I have seen too many overweight people (myself included),  bulging in their clothes, standing in front of a fresh donut display, literally trying to control their saliva.

        I don't remember talking about no carb/fat free life but low carb and controlled fat eating habit does help weaning us from the desire to eat more of them. The proof is in the average fat percentage of the nations and the cultures who have low carb, high vegetable, sea food habits which is quite low in comparison to US. I congratulate you and your spouse for becoming vegans but you still need to maintain proper protein intake to keep your muscles alive, for they are body's fat burners. Plus, not everyone can adjust to or afford a strict vegan diet however so my recommendation simply was a diet high in proteins and veggies while low on carbs and sugars. One can increase the carb intake while maintaining a healthy weight while keeping it in moderation. To see weight loss results in a reasonably short period of time however, cutting down of carb intake is essential.

        Animal fats are indeed cholesterol sources but low fat meats (less red meat, more fish and bird, cooked properly) and low fat diary products do help control the cholesterol levels.

        Again, "spice" (flavor) helps to wean us off from craving for the wrong foods and overeating, in general. What do you think about that?

        "Corruptio Optimi Pessima" (Corruption of the best is the worst)

        by zenox on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 11:51:09 AM PST

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  •  I lost 30 pounds last year (4+ / 0-)

    so I have two years to go at that rate. I have a diary half written about the low-carb diet I have been using, part Atkins, part ketogenic diet. We clearly do not understand enough about hunger. When low-carb diets work, it is because they reduce hunger. This seems to be an evolutionary adaptation: eat more and pack on some fat when carbs are available, and don't feel awful while using the fat when carbs are not available.

    But in our society carbs are always available. Always and everywhere. I cannot convince my wife not to offer me carbs.

    Keep this up. Maybe I can get back on Wii Fit. Maybe I will finish that half-written diary.

    America—We built that!

    by Mokurai on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:26:03 AM PST

  •  wow, I can barely keep up! (4+ / 0-)
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    Looks like we've got a group. So who wants next week's diary?

  •  I'm in the needs to lose 25 pounds club (2+ / 0-)
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    Though it was more like 30 a month ago.  I had some issues with my eyes recently that terrified me.  I thought I had suddenly become full-on diabetic.  It seems that I am not, but between my diet consisting of far too much sugar and constant dehydration (wasn't drinking anything, literally, but a cup or so of coffee everyday), I still got messed up.  It's improving now, but apparently getting back to full normal can take a long time.

    Anyway my diet and lifestyle has been atrocious.  I've never had any lack of appetite for healthy foods, but when you're depressed, all your worst lazy instincts get mixed up with sheer lack of energy to put anything good together and it's just horrible.  And I was completely sedentary.  I started back on anti-depressants, that's one thing; I started drinking water; I started exercising -- 90 minutes walking a day so far for the last several weeks -- ; and I'm just plain refusing to eat the massive amounts of crap I used to.  An actual challenge for me is trying to keep enough green vegetables in the house, heh.  I've cut down portion size a little, but not much.

    I can't think of it as a diet; if I do that, I know I'll fail.  I just need to live how I'm living now instead of how I was living a month ago.  I already feel so much better physically and mentally.  I've lost a little weight, enough that the pants I bought just before Christmas and which were a bit too tight then fit comfortably now.  But I don't think it's good to focus on the goal.  All you can really focus on is the moment and making the best decisions you can at that time.  If what I'm doing works to lose significant amounts of weight, good -- if not, I'll still be enormously healthier than I was before, and I can re-evaluate my routine at some point if I really want to.

    As far as tips go, about a week after I started this I was having the most awful cravings for sweets and you know what I read somewhere, that actually works?  Actually imagine eating what you are craving, in as much sensory detail as you can manage.  It usually does the trick.

  •  Keep trying my friend. (1+ / 0-)
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    The important thing is that you try. There is no easy solution to weight loss other than determination and discipline.

    At the beginning of April 2012 I was 250 pounds. One day I walk by a mirror and I really didn't like what I saw. I researched a gym, joined then started working out 3 times a week for 2 hours each visit split between cardio and weights. I also started eating healthier.  To date I have lost 61 pounds an I am at 189. My target is 175.

    Good luck on your quest.

  •  I want to lose weight also. (2+ / 0-)
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    I've started walking and cutting down portions. I'm hoping to lose 10 pounds. When I lose that I will try for another 10. Fingers crossed.

    I am a work in progress. Still.

    by broths on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:50:36 AM PST

  •  I'm trying a new experiment this year (1+ / 0-)
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    (Since about last May really).

    I have been

    -- not weighing myself
    -- not measuring myself
    -- not weighing my food
    -- not counting calories
    -- not counting points
    -- not overexercising

    ...and...

    -- following a Paleo/Primal Blueprint type (www.marksdailyapple.com) eating style

    It's much less stressful than dieting and wacking out on the cardio and seems to work about as well, plus I feel better.  The weight comes off super-slow but at least it doesn't come ON, and you don't end up feeling hungry all the time.

    Do you not see that it is the grossest idolatry to speak of the market as though it were the rival of God?

    by kismet on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:55:29 AM PST

    •  Very smart plan (0+ / 0-)

      The most difficult part is patience.  Since you are reducing carb-based fuels and increasing by nearly an equal amount fatty acid-based energy sources the process is slow and can be frustrating.  The fact that you feel better is a clear sign that your body is making adjustments.  My body responded to primal eating instantaneously but I had been lifting weights for 15 years prior to the change and I went into it with a pretty efficient body with high muscle density that burns carbohydrate in my sleep.  For me to maintain healthy weight I actually had to increase my total caloric intake after I cut out the carbs, grains, sugar, dairy etc.  That meant boosting my fatty acid intake (healthy fats) to extremely high levels.  We just don't get as much organ meats as our biology demands so I had to do something to keep the fat from flying off and falling to unnatural levels.  So I reintroduced goat dairy and make a smoothie in the morning with it.

      I weight 135 and bench 225.

  •  Cinnamon (1+ / 0-)
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    Okay, I recently discovered a really important thing.  This I already knew - weight gain is not about calories but blood sugar spikes.  Two things happen when your blood sugar spikes I guess (nutritionists can correct me here).  One is that it becomes much harder to absorb the calories and they go into fat.  The second is that eating makes you hungrier rather than satiating you.  That is because when you blood sugar spikes it makes you crave more food.  So then why cinnamon.  Well it seems that cinnamon stabilizes your blood sugar.  That is it allows you to feel full without having your blood sugar scream out more, more, more.  It also stops cravings which for me is the killer.  Take cinnamon capsules with every meal.  It starts working quickly, but then you continue eating anyway in the beginning mostly out of habit.  But soon, and you get used to stabilized blood sugar you stop craving things and you just sort of forget about eating.  There is absolutely no danger to cinnamon so you can try it without worry.  Google it.

    •  HOWEVER, Cinnamon is tree bark. If you are (0+ / 0-)

      allergic to tree bark, you probably know it. so you won't try this and you won't die from anaphylactic shock at a food allergy reaction to "tree bark".

      like my DH would. when the allergist's staff did the original set of scratch tests for basic sensitivities, they had to cut the "tree bark" stuff 10,000 times before they got a reaction that didn't scare THEM!

      He can taste a grain or two, and starts to close up. so no more cinnamon toast for me! I don't even keep it in the house, and we steer clear of the Cinnabon stand at the mall, and curse the department store that piles bags of cinnamon-dosed pine cones (for Christmas fires) RIGHT at the doorway, and on and on. Heck of it is, he's pretty sure he was NOT sensitive to the stuff when he was a kid! Really takes the wind out of all kinds of holiday and regular baking, you betcha'

      "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

      by chimene on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:38:56 PM PST

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  •  Vegan (2+ / 0-)
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    In February 2012 I weighed 340 lbs (6'1) and my spouse weighed 255 lbs (5'8.) In April we went vegan. We now weigh 250 lbs (me) 190 lbs (my spouse.) Together we have sent over 100 lbs to the nether. I swear by veganism. I can eat oreos, dill pickle chips, salt and vinegar chips, drink coke if I want it, but I also juice, eat large amounts of leafy greens, lentils, etc...

    Decide what matters to you. I have went from having extremely high cholesterol and blood pressure at 28! to having normal levels in less than a year. Veganism doesn't feel like you are restricting yourself because you're not!

    Beautiful...just beautiful :-)

    -Zak

    Born in TN-05 and Live in TN-05, Went to college in TN-09 and TN-06, Married in IA-02.

    by zakandsantos on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 07:59:59 AM PST

    •  Bill, is that you? (0+ / 0-)

      I've been impressed by President Clinton's commitment to his vegan diet. I remember his McDonald's runs when he was in office. He does look great! Good for you!

      An unsuccessful shoe bomb attack resulted in nine years of inconvenience for every flier in the country. It would be nice to think [this diabolical act] might lead to some similar inconveniences. --mrblifil

      by Debby on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 08:03:34 AM PST

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    •  Your BMI is still high (0+ / 0-)

      Your BMI is still 33 which is Class I Obese.

      Her BMI is 29 which is Overweight.

      But you are on the right track.

      I would not recommend eating "Oreos, potato chips, coke".  But it's great that you're eating whole foods and consuming more of your calories as whole fruits and vegetables rather than packaged processed foods that are high in grains and sugar.

      •  I would disagree (0+ / 0-)

        when I said that I'm eating those things, I meant on occasion. Life is about enjoyment and it is okay to enjoy things. 99% of my diet is raw vegan. If I want a potato chip now and then I will have it. BMI is a bad measure of health. My spouse is male (not she...this is dailykos...don't assume heterosexuality...it's offensive.) The measure I use is that I feel better, the tests show I am healthier, and I continue to lose roughly 2 lbs a week. I'll continue to enjoy the occasion

        BMI is Bogus (NPR)al Oreo :-)

        Born in TN-05 and Live in TN-05, Went to college in TN-09 and TN-06, Married in IA-02.

        by zakandsantos on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 09:09:14 AM PST

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      •  If the person is still able to lose weight (1+ / 0-)
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        and those items keep him from feeling deprived, it's probably working for him. The time to stop would be if he hits a serious plateau.

      •  my BMI is really depressing (0+ / 0-)

        and I eat almost no junk food - maybe a bag of chips every 3 months or so, soda maybe 2 times a year, and candy -- I eat 1 oz of raw cacao nibs every day with some yogurt

    •  Great idea (2+ / 0-)

      I joined just now.  You should link the group in the body of your diary and make access as convenient as possible.

      I want to introduce myself.

      From my profile...

      NC registered Democratic Party. Pursuing RD license. Advocate for local foods, WIC (FMNP), self-sufficiency, sustainable agriculture and renewable energy. I support local growers and frequent farmer's markets. First election was Clinton 1996.

  •  Thanks for starting this (2+ / 0-)
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    My tips boil down to:

    80% of fitness is nutrition: Eat real food, get most of your intake in the morning, and stay away from simple sugars and processed fats. Another thing: proteins aren't as important as you think, and carbs aren't as evil as you think. Neither are fats.

    Cardio is critical: You need to spike your heart rate for at least a half hour each day. This drives your ability to process that real food, as well as build tone if that's what you're after. This means running (not walking), spinning, or a repetitive-motion machine such as an elliptical.

    It must be sustainable: If you can't exercise every day because you're pounding your knees, making yourself sick, or life just doesn't allow you to prepare a week's meals or get to a gym every morning, this will be your toughest obstacle. Keep the time spent and impact to a level you can do every day or every other.

    Recover: Each week you should take a day to stay away from exercise.

    My Story:

    I was getting up in weight a couple years ago, and it's hard to go full wheatgrass with a family and young kids, so I had to do the best I could with food and exercise, and I'm happy to say I've lost about 50# and picked up a whole new sport.

    Before the kids, I was a whitewater boater in the summer and a skier in the winter. Because these are primarily weekend activities, this 'active' lifestyle is actually pointless for fitness. After the kids came, I switched to activities that could involve them or not take me away for a whole day, which meant hiking and running.

    Hiking in the White Mountains with a 40# child on my back is a lot of fun, but as weekend exercise it's fairly lousy for fitness, and it kills the knees. Running during the week is a great way to raise the heart rate, but my knees kept me from doing too much of it.

    So I learned to run with a forefoot strike, removing my knees from the picture entirely. This is the style that has become popular as the 'barefoot' or 'minimal' trend, and it relies on the calf muscles, arches, and achilles tendons, much more than the knees and ankle joints.

    Do the math: muscles grow and rebuild, while joints don't. So this style will allow a runner to keep going later in life.

    For fitness, tennis is an awesome sport, and so is basketball, but you need a team or at least a partner to get a workout. Who can do that 4-5 times a week? So running was my solution.

    BTW, that doesn't mean you have to run marathons or half marathons. Those aren't fitness; they are sports. Running for fitness means 5K every morning. That's all you need. Running long distance means training, dedicating a lot more time and effort, managing gear, fighting pain and dealing with injury, and eating a lot more than you would on a diet.

    Half marathons are way more than anyone needs for fitness. BUT, they're a hell of a lot of fun, and the looming race date has a way of keeping you focused and on plan. This in itself IS good for fitness.

    In 2012 I ran three marathons, five half-marathons and two shorter races. I run a <20 minute 5k, 1:30 half marathon and a 3:32 marathon.

    A marathon runner loses 2deg of body heat, burns 4000 calories and 2-3# of water. In short, you feel funny after running one. And you spend the next day or so sucking up food like a vacuum. This is not dieting. You'll be fit, but remember this is not necessary.

    One more thing: Yoga = good.

  •  I'm in it now. (2+ / 0-)
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    GoogleBonhoeffer, 1864 House

    I'm still 'relosing' weight I put back on over the holidays, currently still up ~4 lbs below my recent 'low' pre-holidays.

    I started back on July 1, at 300#, am currently 233.1#, and my eventual goal is 165#, unless I start weight training again, in which case I'll happily add back 15-20# of muscle.

    I'm losing through a high protein/high fat diet with minimal carbs.  It can be a good way to lose, but I've got hints that I need to back off on the protein, based on kidney output that seems to have excess protein.

    I don't actually 'exercise' atm, as it tends to bore me.

  •  Lost 20lb By Cutting Out Processed Food..... (2+ / 0-)

    & less meat.  Now I weigh every other day, & if I've gained any back.....I just up the vegies. organic salad & walking again.  That's what I have to do this morning since I dipped into the corn chips last night.  

    When the belly fat goes, your clothes stop hurting & you can wear anything in the closet.  It's nice not to have to camouflage the problem anymore.  

  •  Oh, and a bit of an homage - (1+ / 0-)
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    Losin weight without speed eatin sunflower seeds...

    I keep sunflower seeds on hand as a 'snack' if I feel a bit peckish.

  •  I have to lose half of myself (2+ / 0-)
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    anotherdemocrat, 1864 House

    I should weigh around 173; I'm 346 as of Sunday morning. So I'm in this for the long haul.

    I'm not physically active - my current life situation is 2 1/2 hours commuting to work (round trip), and then 9 hours in front of a computer at work.  It's been this way for the last 10 years, and so I've gone from only slightly overweight when I started (at 185) to a high of 361 last year.  My early life I was normal weight and active, so this is a new situation for me.  I am not liking the physical effects on my body; the puffy skin, the additional ache on my knees, etc.  

    I am a sugar fiend, but I do also love fruits & vegetables.  Sugar should be easier to cut out now that I'm being treated for my sleep apnea (which was leaving me exhausted during the day, so anything with caffeine and sugar that could keep me awake at work & for the commute were invaluable).  

    So yeah, sign me up for whatever.  Should we join the old weight loss group you found, or are we starting a new one?  Daily or Weekly or some other schedule?

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    by Avilyn on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 10:02:05 AM PST

    •  I'm right there with you (2+ / 0-)
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      235, but I'm only 5 ft 2. I was always told ad a child that I was fat, so I've always thought of myself that way (when I look at pictures, I'm actually not larger than the others)

      Salty, tangy things are my downfall. I like chocolate, too - but I lose control with cheese.

      •  I'm 5 ft 10 (1+ / 0-)
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        When I was active, I was between 135-145.  With college I did get up to 155-160, but I was still reasonably active.  Dang this whole having to be an adult and have a job and pay bills thing.  

        I sometimes crave salt, and do love cheese, but sugar is my downfall.  I have managed to cut it out of everything I drink (which is primarily iced tea and coffee), it's snacks during the day that get me.  Or on the drive home.

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        I’m a feminist because the message is still "don’t get raped" not "don’t rape"

        by Avilyn on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 11:11:06 AM PST

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  •  how do you join a group? (2+ / 0-)
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    anotherdemocrat, 1864 House

    I have been following the previous Weight Loss Kos group but am not listed as a member...

  •  I would encourage everyone to check out... (1+ / 0-)
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    ....MyFitnessPal.com

    I use their app on my iPhone, it helps a ton. It's calorie counting but they do all the work. Just about everything you eat is already in their data base. Plus it has a scanner, so if you have a packaged item you are eating or using to cook with you simply scan it to add.

    I lost about 25 lbs using it a couple of years ago, started using it again this morning since I gained some back over the holidays.

  •  I guess it's a national chain (0+ / 0-)

    It's called Snap Fitness.  They give me an old people's discount and waived the membership fee because I joined when it first opened.  

    It's so affordable and the people who run it are so nice!  I love them and enjoy working out on the equipment.  I've belonged for two-and-a-half years now.

    Gained a lot of weight last fall owing to careless eating habits.  However, since my granddaughter is now in day care five days a week, I can go to the gym every day.  I want to lose 8 pounds by the time of my son's wedding at the end of April!

    Hello to everyone here, it's nice to meet you.

    "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

    by Diana in NoVa on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 11:47:59 AM PST

  •  I really think that different diets work for (1+ / 0-)
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    different people.  And yes, realizing that what you're doing is a "life style change, not a diet" is important.

    All that stuff about not drinking colas or even diet colas--I've never had to worry about that because I hate that stuff.  I drink perhaps one coke or gingerale every five years and then only if nothing else is available.

    I love oatmeal, whole-wheat bread, and whole-wheat waffles.  I lost the 12 pounds I wanted to lose in six months and then some, eating the normal things I like--just not eating sweets.  Then I let up too much and went back to eating chocolate.  Chocolates--not ice cream, pie, cake, or whatever--are my downfall.

    I eat lots of fruit and have taken to keeping small apples and clementines in the house.  I limit my consumption of cheese and milk.

    I've always known what to eat--I mean, we eat fast food once a year, on the way to the beach and then it's McDonald's chicken wrap, not a burger--but, as I've said, I like chocolate.

    Dessert at our house is fruit, 90 percent of the time.  Fresh fruit.  Hubby likes vanilla ice cream on his, but his problem is gaining weight, not losing it.  He loses five pounds if he watches soccer on TV!  I've told him I want his metabolism for my birthday.

    "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

    by Diana in NoVa on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 12:14:19 PM PST

  •  Here would be my reccomendation (0+ / 0-)

    If you can afford it (or get someone to pay for it or your insurance covers it), go and see a nutritionist.  Make sure you see one who you feel comfortable with and who will allow you to eat the things that you like as well as make allowances for the things that you like but really shouldn't have.  It won't work if you hate it.  I think the only way to really lose a good deal of weight is to change your diet and eating habits.  And it has to be permanent and a long term, slow process.  Only in that way can you readjust your mind and your palate to not only lose the weight but keep it off permanently.  Exercise is great (I work out every day for at least an hour) and certainly it can help you lose weight but it will account for a small percentage of weight loss.  The diet part is the most important.  I say this from personal experience (though I hate talking about it because of all the emotions frought with it).  

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    by SoCalLiberal on Mon Jan 07, 2013 at 02:37:40 PM PST

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