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Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa)
Not a mugshot.
New congress, same crap. You might think your elected officials already have their hands full not dealing with all the manufactured fiscal crises they dumped in their own laps, but that stuff's boring, and involves math and stuff. It's easier to just do a little cheap pandering to your worst and most racist base, and Iowa Republican Steve King helps to kick those efforts off in the new year by repealing birthright citizenship:
Thirteen of King’s fellow House Republicans have signed on as co-sponsors of the bill to make “anchor babies” (the American-born children of illegal immigrants) a thing of the past. One of the bill’s co-sponsors is Texas Republican Louie Gohmert, one of the first members of the “birther” crowd, the people who question whether President Obama was born in the United States.
The bill is expected to go nowhere, as usual. Rep. Steve King is also expected to go nowhere, but will do it very loudly.

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  •  Please bring this bill up for a vote. I don't want (34+ / 0-)

    to miss any opportunity for the GOP to alienate Latino voters, since they are the obvious target of this blatantly racist bill.

    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself - FDR. Obama Nation. -6.13 -6.15

    by ecostar on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 12:48:13 PM PST

    •  Actually, I think you'll hear this from the GOP (0+ / 0-)

      floor:

      'Thanks Steve. This helps.'

      I see what you did there.

      by GoGoGoEverton on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:19:56 PM PST

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    •  Don't touch my food stamps or medicaid... (0+ / 0-)

      Funny how so many do NOT want entitlement cuts, yet support illegal aliens.  Are you not smart enough to know the USA can NOT pay for the entire world?  Food Stamp cuts will happen so they can redistributed!

      The Birthright Citizenship bill was created to protect Freed Slaves!  Illegals have shut down hospitals in CA with their theft as well as have placed huge burdens on border state hospitals!

      American Kids, Through No Fault Of Their Own

      Education cuts, higher price of groceries, cuts to entitlements could all be avoided IF our government followed our Immigration Laws. Not only do we the consumer pay the price, but our American children, Through No Fault Of Their Own are also paying the price!  How dare you or any elected official hand over amnesty when you've done nothing to seal our borders or put an end to the abuse of Birthright Citizenship!

      I've had the opportunity to speak with cashiers at WalMart who see so much WIC & Food Stamp fraud by illegal aliens; we consumers are paying the higher prices to make up for their theft.

      Food Stamps & WIC allow certain products, brands and quantities yet, Mexicans take more or non-approved items on WIC & Food Stamps, hold up grocery lines knowing Management will "Let them have it".

      One Mexican woman was making a scene, screaming at the cashier "Just give it to me" when denied the items not approved through Food Stamps! WE consumers pay the price difference with higher prices. Off to the money center, sending their money to Mexico! I know some whites, blacks & asians abuse the system, however Mexicans appear to be the worst!

      Cash back on the Food Stamp Card, using to purchase cigarettes & alcohol. Why does do states allow this?

      Go to WalMart or retailers where the low income shop, talk to; employees who can tell you so many stories, how they watch the abuses while making low wages, trying to support their American children without entitlements! Many have said they were indifferent to the illegals until being on the front lines, seeing all their theft & abuse,

      Unless you are a renter in this area, you have no clue how hard it has become to find 'decent' affordable housing as so many illegals are taking them up! I rented from one landlord who told me he had to replace the flooring (Now using cheap paneling) after having rented to Mexicans as they ripped up nice expensive hardwood floors, took it with them after they were evicted for NOT paying their rent. Working retail has provided me with the opportunity to speak with many who have told me similar horror stories, forcing we renters to pay higher rent and deposits. Not only do the Mexicans tear out flooring, they take ceiling fans, bathroom cabinets, etc. The Maintenance Man where I rent told me they hate renting to them as they always pay their 1st month rent and deposit, then wait to be evicted paying no more rent while trashing the apt. This in turn is hurting Americans as we NOW must pay higher deposits as well as has had an effect on the price of rent.

      When does KS become CA?? I've also been informed by more than one illegal alien they are now migrating here from CA as we have jobs and affordable housing!

      Americans should be your 1st priority, not the Business Coalitions and their needed election donations! Who would have ever thought our Government would care so little about Americans that they've allowed some cities to be hijacked by Mexicans, forcing Americans to learn Spanish if they want jobs?

      Turning your backs on the theft by illegal aliens is creating a breeding ground for racism and hatred of Mexicans as you've chose them over your own low to middle class constituents. I've spoke with city utility workers who confirm what i've seen, more and more apartments are being vacated by native born Americans as many illegals are taking them over! I've caught more than one messing with water meters, why???

       A family member (strong supporter of immigrants) works at the Houston Medical Center and has seen the gross amount of abuses by illegals who in turn never pay their bills and leave with their welfare!  

      It's time to pass not only H.R. 140 The Birthright Citizenship bill which was created to protect freed slaves, but E-verify to help ensure Americans are getting the jobs needed!

  •  And they just don't understand how they (19+ / 0-)

    possibly could have lost the Hispanic vote.

    I just want to add that making any child effectively country-less by not granting citizenship where they are born is really, really cruel.

    Shaking head.

    •  citizenship as a political weapon (8+ / 0-)

      is an old-world habit that we in the New World have, thankfully, largely cast aside.

      •  There is a lot of room for games here. (5+ / 0-)

        A woman who is a citizen who for one reason or another can't prove her citizenship at the time of birth could easily find herself and her child in Kafkaesque labyrinth - all because she's of Hispanic descent and considered "suspect".  It is disgusting to think about how many terrible stories and sagas that this sort of bullshit would create.

        •  Ya think? (4+ / 0-)

          That'd teach women about birthing while brown.

          Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

          by blue aardvark on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:13:16 PM PST

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          •  I actually lived in a place where (5+ / 0-)

            they not only refused to grant citizenship to non-citizen's babies, they were also going back 30 years to revoke citizenship from people who had been granted citizenship at the time of their birth - before the loonies took over - and also challenging the citizenship of people who had been born out of the country because that was where the hospital was where people went if they were having trouble with their pregnancies.  In many cases, these people were victimizing their own cousins in this crusade.  That's one reason why I have a sense of how terribly wrong things could go if we ever were to deny citizenship to anyone born in this country.

            •  the sad part is (4+ / 0-)

              I can't guess which country your'e talking about, because there are so many of them that do that shit...much of the middle east, several european states, and on and on and on.

            •  That sounds like a diary (1+ / 0-)
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              Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

              by blue aardvark on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:39:03 PM PST

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              •  I could talk about work permits, too. (2+ / 0-)
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                A system that creates a permanent underclass of people who work and live in that society with basically very little hope of ever gaining citizenship and also an ever present threat of being booted out for pissing someone off - and hoping that they won't be victimized by a citizen and have to fight back because that was pretty much a way to get deported - the head of immigration was said to have raped a number of non-citizen women who submitted because he had the power to send them away.  As well as the fact that marrying a citizen is also not a path to citizenship and divorcing means that the partner who isn't a citizen better be prepared to leave - often without their children.

                I know that people really want to see immigration addressed in this term, but after the last round of extremely BAD ideas I saw from a less evil Republican House in 2005, I am loathe to think what this crowd could do to make people's lives much, much worse than they are even now.  That's just my 2 on this front.

        •  Proving citizenship (0+ / 0-)

          Seems to me that everybody in the United States who gives birth would be required to prove citizenship forthwith.

          Prudent people would be wise to obtain passports well before the expected date of birth, and apply for the baby's passport at the same time they apply for the birth certificate.

          For a while, it might be sufficient for the birth mother and/or father to show a birth certificate showing her or his birth in the United States, but eventually it will be passports that are required.

          Right now, American citizens who have a baby outside the U.S. submit all the documentation to the nearest embassy and await the arrival of news from the Department of State, with the baby's passport.

          Imagine how much federal money will have to be allocated to the agency that reviews the documentation for every baby born within the U.S., and the issuance of infant passports. Not to mention the costs to the parents to obtain notarization of their documentation in order to apply for recognition and passport.

        •  Not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." (0+ / 0-)

          The 14th Amendment states:

          All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.
          George Will wrote a column, a few months to a couple of years ago, stating that we don't need a constitutional amendment to deny the citizenship of anchor babies; we can enact a statute saying that illegal immigrants are not "subject to the jurisdiction."

          Imagine that such a law had been passed while Bill Clinton was president. Then imagine that one of the hijacked planes on 9/11 had overpowered the hijackers and safely returned the plane to the ground. The hijackers say they're illegal immigrants, therefore they're not subject to the jurisdiction if the United States.

          Wouldn't the authors of the bill look foolish for having given diplomatic immunity to illegal immigrants?

          The furor over Friday's [10.5] job report revealed a political movement that is rooting for American failure, so obsessed with taking down Obama that good news drives its members into a blind rage. -Paul Krugman

          by Judge Moonbox on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 06:08:19 PM PST

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    •  They think they lost the Hispanic vote (6+ / 0-)

      because they didn't deliver a conservative enough message.

      Which is fine with me.

    •  It's not like they don't understand... (0+ / 0-)

      Republicans think they're entitled to every vote. If someone is put off by their rhetoric in seeking the votes of others, those people aren't shaking the Etch a Sketch enough.

      The furor over Friday's [10.5] job report revealed a political movement that is rooting for American failure, so obsessed with taking down Obama that good news drives its members into a blind rage. -Paul Krugman

      by Judge Moonbox on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 05:56:24 PM PST

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  •  <facepalm> n/t (11+ / 0-)

    The thing about democracy, beloveds, is that it is not neat, orderly, or quiet. It requires a certain relish for confusion. Molly Ivins

    by MufsMom on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 12:49:40 PM PST

  •  That was one of three stupid bills King introduced (11+ / 0-)

    He also introduced a bill to repeal ObamaCare (as did his BFF, Michele Bachmann) and a bill to repeal the 16th Amendment in order to eliminate the federal income tax.

  •  Workers forced to wear Racist Tshirts... (11+ / 0-)

    ... at a franchise in S.C.

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    by justiceputnam on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 12:52:55 PM PST

  •  Their outreach to the hispanics is just amazing. (9+ / 0-)
  •  Here are the co-sponors: (13+ / 0-)

    Rep. Lou Barletta (PA)
    Rep. Diane Black (TN)
    Rep. Mo Brooks (AL)
    Rep. Michael Conaway (TX)
    Rep. John Culberson (TX)
    Rep. Virginia Foxx (NC)
    Rep. Phil Gingrey (GA)
    Rep. Louie Gohmert (TX)
    Rep. Walter Jones (NC)
    Rep. Jeff Miller (FL)
    Rep. Richard Nugent (FL)
    Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (GA)
    Rep. Rob Woodall (GA)

    Crazyland is well represented.

    stay together / learn the flowers / go light - Gary Snyder

    by Mother Mags on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 12:55:13 PM PST

  •  Isn't this a Constitutional issue rather than (4+ / 0-)

    something that can be solved through legislation?

  •  To me this is personal (17+ / 0-)

    my wife, a Bengali-American, is an "anchor baby". Her parents are now naturalized, tax-paying citizens of the US but not when she was born.

    Fuck these people.

    Barack Obama for President

    by looty on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 12:58:09 PM PST

  •  Breaking: Squeaky wingnut gets no grease. n/t (3+ / 0-)
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    I'm not always political, but when I am I vote Democratic. Stay Democratic, my friends. -The Most Interesting Man in the World

    by boran2 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:00:13 PM PST

  •  "Representative" King (4+ / 0-)

    is an insult to us all.  He is an affront to basic decency and should not be in any kind of leadership position.  His treatment of animals and just about any group that is not HIM does not meet the prerequisites for a civilized society.  He needs to be driven out and made an example of.

  •  My wish (3+ / 0-)
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    would to see a reporter in his face every day (preferably a different one each time) ask him how this reduces the deficit and creates jobs, just so I could see him blubber some stupid non-answer every time.

    Undecided voters are the biggest idiots on the planet. - Brian Griffin

    by Philpm on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:02:16 PM PST

  •  in fairness to rep. king, he's only doing what his (4+ / 0-)

    constituents want him to do.  he's been doing it for years, and he keeps getting re-elected, it's reasonable to believe that those who voted for him think this way as well. having determined that, it's kind of time to start calling out those Iowans, who support rep. king and his bills, and call them what they are, in public: stupid, racist crackers.

    •  please use a narrower brush (2+ / 0-)
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      Not all of his constituents agree with most (okay in my case, just about all) of his positions. The correct word you are looking for is "supporter."

      My side of his district (his newest constituents thanks to redistricting) did our damndest to get him out of Congress. We promise to try harder in 2014.

      Although as others have noted, if he keeps up the crazy for the next year or so or job might be easier.

      •  I thought Christie had a real shot....but alas! (0+ / 0-)

        My husband phone banked for Vilsack and we sent her money but the western part of the district was just too much I guess.

        3.3 million Texans voted for Obama in 2012....give us a break!.

        by mkoz on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 02:55:09 PM PST

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    •  having been born and raised in that district.... (0+ / 0-)

      I would hazard a guess that attitudes like this have a lot to do with why folks in rural Iowa tend to lean republican. There is a really unfortunate tendency for some on the left to come off as condescending to "flyover country". Republicans gained ground in these areas because they came in and engaged on issues that mattered to farmers in the past, while Dems focused on urban areas.

      These aren't stupid people, but between the right wing media machine (Rush was on the radio in nearly every tractor when I was a kid because it was one of the only radio stations we got reliably out in the fields). and the fact that I'm not sure democrats have ever really tried to engage with rural Iowa in any meaningful way. It's always a token effort and the people there know it. I get the same thing here in Washington County, but I'm in a district with the liberal bastion of Iowa City, so I have good representation, even if my county is red. Rep. Loebsack doesn't come to Washington County much. The County Democratic party doesn't get much in the way of support from the state or national parties, because they don't need it. People here see that kind of thing. They see republicans that, ostensibly, share their values and care about issues that matter to them (they don't really, but they put on a good show and they don't ignore rural areas as much). Then they see democrats cater to more urban areas and ignore rural ones. It's no surprise that rural areas vote red, It's something both parties have worked hard to accomplish.

      "There is one rule for the industrialist and that is: Make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible." -Henry Ford

      by sixeight120bpm on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 03:50:01 PM PST

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  •  Birthright citizenship has already been decided (3+ / 0-)

    by the courts. Even if this was passed by Congress and signed by the president, it would be thrown out by the courts, unless they want to get all judicial activisty.

    •  14th Amendment, sec. 1.1 is unambiguous: (0+ / 0-)
      Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1:
      All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
      There's no wiggle room left in the language of the 14th Amendment for an activist right-wing judge to uphold any legislative attempt to deny citizenship to "anchor babies", since the 14th Amendment grants it to anyone "born" here.  Trying to do so on the basis of alleged narrow "original intent" that the 14th amendment was intended to address citizenship of freed negro slaves, and not broadly anyone, runs into direct collision with the alleged constitutional free speech foundations of corporations under Citizens United.  Not that Citizens United is a sound interpretation of the 14th Amendment's basis for alleged corporate "personhood".

      The more insidious tack some red state under firm control of a wingnut GOP legislature and governor might take would be twofold:
      1) Require a birth certificate as proof a person was "born here";
      2) Place as many forbidding obstacles in the way for people without their own unambiguoius documentation of citizenship or legal residency to gain access to hospitals for delivery of babies (i.e. where issuance of a birth certificate would routinely accompany any live birth), and place as many forbidding obstacles as possible in the way of obtaining a birth certificate for babies born outside of hospitals.

      The argument here would be that voting is a fundamental constitutional right, yet voter id has been held constitutional, so why not proof of qualification for citizenship?

  •  WWMD? (3+ / 0-)
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    I believe Mitt Romney is an anchor baby.

  •  I think if we gave Steve King a test on the US (2+ / 0-)
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    Constitution he would do worse than random chance.

    Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

    by blue aardvark on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:12:21 PM PST

  •  Great they can boot one of their own (2+ / 0-)
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    How wonderful, why don't they start by setting an example and boot out NM Gov Susana Martinez and her anchor baby mom first?

  •  I will wallow into a dragon's nest here... (2+ / 0-)
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    I have a cousin. Her parents are Taiwanese citizens. Her mom gave birth to her in the United States and promptly returned to Taiwan. She has a social security card and U.S. passport. She also holds Taiwanese citizenship. She lived and grew up in Taiwan but used her US Citizenship to go to international school in Taiwan.

    Not a big deal, right? Birthright citizenship is pretty generous.

    There would be a lot more problems for her if she were born a boy. Taiwan has compulsory military service for college aged men (soon to change, at least that's what their 'president' says). According to United States law, that is a really big no no... serving in a foreign military.

    United States doesn't have very many stipulations on dual citizenship.... so... what do you do?

    Why hello there reality, how are you doing?

    by Future Gazer on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:13:24 PM PST

    •  Stay out of Taiwan until after the age (0+ / 0-)

      of military service....

      Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

      by blue aardvark on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:19:51 PM PST

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    •  Dual citizenship (0+ / 0-)

      Last I heard, the United States allows dual citizenship if the other country also allows dual citizenship. Thus, when the Netherlands changed its laws to allow dual citizenship, a Dutch person I know applied for U.S. citizenship and was naturalized.

      To lose U.S. citizenship, you have to take voluntary action with the intention of giving up your U.S. citizenship.

      This suggests to me that if someone is conscripted into military service by a government that considers that person to be a citizen, then the individual has not acted voluntarily and has not demonstrated an intention of giving up U.S. citizenship.

      •  You can serve in a foreign military (0+ / 0-)

        Many U.S. citizens volunteered with the British and Canadian armed forces and were fighting before the U.S. entered WWII (not to mention the famous "flying tigers" in China, most of whom were recruited directly from the U.S. military and re-entered U.S. service when the U.S. entered the war).  You can serve in a foreign military, you cannot fight against the U.S.  A friend was in the Israeli army during the Yom Kippur war, for a more recent example, he is a U.S. citizen by birth, and is now a U.S. Army retiree.

        Some countries consider an individual born there to be a citizen, even if that individual becomes naturalized by another country.  My British born wife is a naturalized U.S. citizen, carries a U.S. passport, and is a citizen of Great Britain--the opinion of the U.S. government does not matter to the British.  Although it is possible to renounce British citizenship, they do make it quite difficult and I doubt that many go to all the trouble.

        •  Another country's opinion (0+ / 0-)

          I think you're right--as far as I know, the Brits have no problem with their citizens taking out another citizenship.

          However, the Dutch citizen I know remained a green card resident in the U.S. when the consequence of becoming a naturalized American meant the automatic loss of Dutch citizenship. The Dutch changed that law and she promptly became a naturalized American.

          The Canadian government had no problem with dual citizenship, but a lot of Canadians residing in the U.S. declined to apply for American citizenship as long as the U.S. oath required renouncing all allegiances to other countries. Now, apparently, that was just a formality and the U.S. didn't actually follow up on this and make everybody formally surrender other citizenships, but the oath was a barrier to a lot of people.

          U.S.-Canadian dual citizenship didn't work that way for people going in the opposite direction: U.S. citizens didn't have to renounce their allegiance to the U.S. when becoming naturalized Canadians. So it was easy for Americans to become dual citizens at a time when it was hard for Canadians to do so because of that oath renouncing other allegiances. Very unfair.

  •  Somewhere a padded cell is missing its cargo. (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Yeah, that's a great idea: a non-citizen class. (4+ / 0-)

    Anchor babies' children would also be anchor babies (people born to non-citizens in the United States), and so would their children, etc.

    This policy would create a legally-enforced lower class, exercising a restricted set of rights, as part of our civic and national order.

    Art is the handmaid of human good.

    by joe from Lowell on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:15:12 PM PST

    •  Untouchables work for less ... (3+ / 0-)
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      Economics is a social *science*. Can we base future economic decisions on math?

      by blue aardvark on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:20:21 PM PST

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    •  This exists (1+ / 0-)
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      in Saudi Arabia. Saudi citizenship only applies if the father is Saudi or the father of a child is unknown and the mother is Saudi(an exceedingly rare case). A child born of Saudi mother and a non-Saudi father must apply for citizenship later.

      It creates a system of second class "permanent residents" that are not entitled to many benefits Saudi citizens are. They cannot use the same hospitals, are not entitled to the same health benefits or the same wages, and have many more restrictions on their free travel.

      It's nice that Rep. King thinks that is a system we should emulate.

  •  What a piece of (3+ / 0-)

    work that guy is.  I don't want to besmirch the good people of Iowa but how could anybody vote for that cretin?

  •  What effect would it have on GOP anchor babies (1+ / 0-)
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    Michelle Malkin, Bobby Jindal, Mia Love?

  •  This is why we need to just push for amnesty and (0+ / 0-)

    then a sensible open border policy of some kind.  We waste so much time and effort and money to have a pseudo "open border but not really" policy and then once people come here and stay for decades....we then make it to where they can not function unless they only live as the lowest tier of society.

    Amnesty for everyone here and then open the borders in some manner.  Make is easy to come here, as long as you work and pay taxes. Perhaps a restriction on using public money unless an extreme emergency....people must come here and pay their own way but allow people to use our education systems and buy into the exchanges and pay taxes.  I see nothing wrong with that.

  •  FANTASTIC! (0+ / 0-)

    And keep ALL this rhetoric up- really angry, really loudly.

    Keep going after the Hispanic vote you bigoted blooming idiots.

    People who say they don't care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don't care what people think. -George Carlin

    by downtownLALife on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:22:03 PM PST

  •  Back in the days of Nixon (0+ / 0-)

    I used to just look at most republicans and think "criminal" with no obvious clues or prompting about their potential for  racist leanings.  

    Now I just look at republicans and think "racist" with little to no difficulty; thinking of them as criminal has become the de facto truth in most cases and now thanks to Steve King so has thinking of them as utter racists as well.  I guess that calling him a representative republican representative is not an alliterative misnomer.  

    I guess when you're an aging white guy from Northwest Iowa you have little to lose by appealing to those most like yourself to get elected/reelected time after time.  Although after the last election, I understand he had an almost viable Democratic opponent, so maybe even Northwest Iowa is slowly joining the rest of the country in becoming more enlightened and less racist/Teabag Stupid (but at a glacially incremental pace it seems).  

    A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism. -Carl Sagan

    by jo fish on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:27:23 PM PST

  •  A picture of King (0+ / 0-)

    ...with wire rim glasses and a Charlie Chaplin mustache.  He looks a lot like another National/Racial "purist."  Maybe I'll start calling him Heinrich, too....

    Proponents of gun violence own guns. Opponents of gun violence do not own guns. What part of this do you not understand?

    by Liberal Panzer on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:37:15 PM PST

  •  So they can't renew VAWA, but they jump on this? (2+ / 0-)
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    Not to mention, if it weren't for anchor babies, the GOP favorite Bobby Jindal could never run for president. So maybe they should keep quiet about this...

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    by Guile Of The Gods on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:39:56 PM PST

  •  Does anybody know of (2+ / 0-)
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    the contemporary thoughts and writings of the creators of the 14th amendment regarding this issue? I'm sick of hearing the nutjobs say  the 14th is just about ex-slaves. Given all the aliens who were part of teh Union armies, I really don't think that is the case. And, in the Plyler v. Doe decision some of the discussion of the founders of the 14th make it clear that they intended the equal justice clause to apply to all people, not just citizens.

    These capitalists generally act harmoniously and in concert, to fleece the people... -Abraham Lincoln

    by HugoDog on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 01:52:23 PM PST

  •  The 14th Amendment is very clear (1+ / 0-)
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    and opens with this clause:

    Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
  •  Mia Love in UT-02 was anchor baby by this def (0+ / 0-)

    When GOP star candidate Mia Love ran in Utah's 2nd Cong District, didn't it come out that she was an "anchor baby"?

  •  the case of king, suggests that (0+ / 0-)

    "you can tell a KOOK by its cover". Look at king, there is nothing behind the eyes.

    Steve King is also expected to go nowhere, but will do it very loudly.

    Conservatives, conserving the lifestyles of the rich and infamous. Those < 1/4 billionaires need not apply.

    by longtimelurker on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 02:33:45 PM PST

  •  How can they be "anchors" when (0+ / 0-)

    so many parents are deported?   Whether the kids stay here or go with their parents, they are hardly anchors....

    -7.62, -7.28 "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly." -Langston Hughes

    by luckylizard on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 03:04:22 PM PST

  •  Lebanon (1+ / 0-)
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    Not that I have a problem with it either way but I just met with someone who flew in NYC from Lebanon to have his baby in NYC. Second time he has done that in order to ensure his kids would be American Citizens. Was unaware that this actually really happened.

  •  Constitution? (0+ / 0-)

    Why doesn't he just try to repeal the Constitution all at once? Why do it piecemeal?

  •  Please continue Mr. Congressman (0+ / 0-)

    we need the votes....

    In God we trust, All others we monitor -AFTAC (-2.75, -2.67)

    by lcs on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 04:39:24 PM PST

  •  That giant sucking sound (0+ / 0-)

    you hear is Hispanics continuing to flee the Repubs. Thanks, Steve.

  •  Funny, (0+ / 0-)

    he looks so normal!

    "Onward through the fog!" - Oat Willie

    by rocksout on Tue Jan 08, 2013 at 07:09:19 PM PST

  •  Does it cover Anchor baby Marco Rubio? <EOM> (0+ / 0-)
  •  Serious human rights abuse (0+ / 0-)

    It has the potential to leave people stateless.
    That's serious shit.

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