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" . . When the Messiah comes, you will be our slaves . ."  In the countryside outside Hebron, a Jewish settler talks to a group of Palestinian farmers, telling them he is going to plant wheat for himself on half of their land.  Press CC button for English subtitles.

The Egyptian army has started to flood & fill in smugglers tunnels from Gaza.

Kufr Aqab is on the West Bank side of the Wall, but still a part of Jerusalem.

Gangam style in Gaza.

A demo takes place in Nabi Saleh.

The saga of Samer Issawi continues.

Dr Attallah Abu Elsebah discusses the difficulties of running a justice system under siege.

An activist visits the illegal outpost of Mitzpe Yair, finding a new building under construction & a bus.

The disabled fight for their rights in Gaza.

Hamas denies it is talking peace with Israel.

Shir Hever discusses the case of Prisoner X.

As Stanley Fisher steps down as head of Israel's central bank, The Real News looks at how he pushed NeoLiberalism in Israel.

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  •  ........"you will be our slaves." How pleasant! (11+ / 0-)

    Mayan Word For 'Apocalypse' Actually Translates More Accurately As "Time Of Pale Obese Gun Monsters."......the Onion

    by lyvwyr101 on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 06:53:18 PM PST

  •  7 Syrians hurt near border treated in Israel... (1+ / 0-)
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    The policy is not to allow any breach of the fence, "with the exception of special humanitarian cases," he added.
    ...
    They had made their own way across the demilitarized zone to the border fence. A Golani patrol detected them and quickly noticed they were wounded and seeking help. Army medics were called to the scene and administered initial care. Senior officers then debated whether to arrange transport to a hospital in Israel.

    It should be noted that the seven did not enter Israel through the official Quneitra crossing and their arrival was not coordinated with the UN force in the area or the Red Cross. It was ultimately decided not to leave them in such condition and arrange their transport to a hospital.

    Source

    I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

    by Hey338Too on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 07:06:26 PM PST

    •  rather odd to note that wounded people are (5+ / 0-)

      expected to enter through the Quneitra crossing and should be coordinated with the UN force and Red Cross.  I assume the term wounded meant gunfire or shrapnel injuries.  It just seems peculiar to me to see possibly leaving them to die was actually considered as an option

    •  Reference to the Golani patrol just reminded me... (10+ / 0-)

      ...Israel illegally occupies the Golani Heights, too.

      The best way to prevent abortions is to arm fetuses.

      by Flyswatterbanjo on Fri Feb 22, 2013 at 09:46:59 PM PST

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    •  Do you wanna tell me (4+ / 0-)
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      how many refugees Israel has taken in? And compare that with how many refugees Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan have taken in? And you're cheering 7 wounded Syrians being treated in a one-off case? The condition that Israel set for talking refugees into the West Bank and Gaza was that they would all have to renounce the right of return. Hamas and the PA rejected that condition. That is then touted by the press like timesofisrael and foxnews as the Palestinians rejecting Israeli offers to accept refugees from Syria. You can go to the google and see for yourself: israel refuses to take syrian refugees.

      I'm just trying to imagine those poor refugees standing at the border signing away their right to return. The subtext of this is that Israel knows they have a right to return and does not want to recognise it. This is the state that you support and the ethno-religious privilege that you support.

      •  OK, but... (0+ / 0-)

        Jordan:

        Jordan has absorbed some 126,000 Syrian refugees, but Palestinians fleeing Syria are placed in a separate refugee camp at the Cyber City compound, under stricter conditions, and are banned from entering Jordanian cities. The Jordanian government fears that an influx of Palestinian refugees may tilt the demographic balance in Jordan even more towards the Palestinians, who are already believed to comprise a large majority of the population.

        Jordan is not obligated to pay a political price for the Syrian crisis,” Jordanian government spokesman Samih Maaytah told Al-Jazeera when asked why the Palestinians were not being let in.

        “Jordan does not prevent the return of its citizens… but the transfer of Palestinian refugees from Syria to Jordan is a matter of tens of thousands, something Jordan cannot bear,” Maayatah added, noting that the matter of Palestinian refugees in Syria is “purely political, before discussing any humanitarian aspect.”

        Lebanon:
        Just to get into Lebanon, each Palestinian Syrian has to pay around $20, which buys them a weeklong visa that can be extended for up to one month for twice that amount. These fees are “prohibitively expensive, particularly for larger families,” says a statement Human Rights Watch on the issue. By contrast, full-nationality Syrians do not pay to enter Lebanon and are given a free six-month visa on arrival.
        Hamas and the PA:
        Leaders of both Hamas and the Palestinian Authority have rebuffed the United Nations Relief and Works Agency's requests for help stemming the mushrooming humanitarian crisis brought on by Syria's bloody civil war. Their refusal to help leaves some 150,000 Syrian Palestinians homeless and facing freezing temperatures, missiles, bombs and food shortages.
        ...
        Hamas Prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh reportedly believes that seeking safe haven for Palestinians trapped in Syria could undermine his argument for a Palestinian ‘right of return’ to what they deem occupied Palestine -- the State of Israel. The same rationale appears be one of the contributing factors to a similar lack of action from Mahmoud Abbas and his Palestinian Authority.

        Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/...

        Israel:
        Stein said Israel stands ready to help the Syrian refugees even though its only remaining option is to facilitiate aid through NGO's.

        “A few months ago Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs offered to send humanitarian aid to the Syrian people, asking if it would be accepted through the Red Cross," Stein said. "The Red Cross contacted Syrian opposition representatives, but they said they didn’t want it.”

        Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/...

        I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

        by Hey338Too on Sat Feb 23, 2013 at 05:03:31 PM PST

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        •  You know you're in trouble (4+ / 0-)

          when you're citing fox news as a newsworthy source on a progressive, Democratic blog.

          As for the rest of your comment, it illustrates nothing that's wonderful about Israel.  What it actually illustrates, I suspect unintentionally on your part, is the miserable condition in which Palestinian refugees find themselves, a condition for which multiple countries, including Israel, are responsible and for which Israel, as the place of origin from which these refugees or their families were dispersed, bears special responsibility.

          •  Right, it's Israel's fault for the way countries.. (0+ / 0-)

            ... which don't even respect Israel's right to exist treat the Palestinians.  So all of those other countries bear no responsibility for the way they treat their brother and sisters?  Let me guess, those other countries bear no responsibility for their treatment of their Jewish populations as well.

            I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

            by Hey338Too on Sat Feb 23, 2013 at 06:09:23 PM PST

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          •  How about this quote from this source? (0+ / 0-)
            Abbas told a group of Egyptian journalists in Cairo late Wednesday that Ban contacted Israel on his behalf.

            Abbas said Ban was told Israel "agreed to the return of those refugees to Gaza and the West Bank, but on condition that each refugee ... sign a statement that he doesn't have the right of return (to Israel)."

            "So we rejected that and said it's better they die in Syria than give up their right of return," Abbas told the group. Some of his comments were published Thursday by the Palestinian news website Sama.

            Huffington Post
            And here.

            I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

            by Hey338Too on Sat Feb 23, 2013 at 06:32:01 PM PST

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            •  Look (4+ / 0-)

              this is about you whitewashing and deflecting from Israel's real central moral issue which is the fate of the Palestinians it kicked out. While noone here supports nor condones the behavior of Lebanon or Jordan in dealing with refugees (and in fact I can categorically state that I condemn the way they are treated) you just want to sidestep any blame or responsibility that Israel has in this issue - both in terms of their treatment of Palestinians and the conditions that it has placed on the humanitarian grounds for refugee status - signing away the right of return. It takes a huge blind spot to not see that Israel's attempt to bargain physical safety for human rights is immoral and repulsive and shows Israel's contempt for Palestinian people and their rights. Imagine how outrages you would be if someone gave that same choice to Jews or Israelis? You wouldn't be so sanguine about it would you? Your floundering attempts to blame anyone but Israel for this something that is Israel's responsibility is pathetic.

              In the meantime, improve your reading comprehension skills as well as your critical thinking skills. It's really annoying and a waste of time to respond to people like you who can't/won't understand what one writes and refuse to respond directly. And, try thinking about Palestinians as people worthy of the same rights and privileges as Israelis or Jews and have some compassion for them such that you don't treat them like chattel whose inalienable rights can be bargained away. I wish you could see just how repulsive your comments and views are to Palestinians and Arabs.

              •  Spare me your righteous indignation... (0+ / 0-)

                ... diaries like this one are one trick ponies, and if someone chooses to push back we are accused of being insensitive or worse.  My point here is simple.  There are two side to every story.  Silencing one side of the story does not make your side any more virtuous or correct.  

                As for my reading comprehension, first, Aunt Martha is wrong when she said: "What it actually illustrates, I suspect unintentionally on your part, is the miserable condition in which Palestinian refugees find themselves...", that was exactly my intent.  Secondly,  when Aunt Martha said "a condition for which multiple countries, including Israel, are responsible" and then says "Israel, as the place of origin from which these refugees or their families were dispersed, bears special responsibility".  You cannot have it both ways.  If the Palestinian condition is the result of the actions of multiple countries actions, then the solution lies with the actions of multiple countries - not just Israel.  Furthermore, if Abbas believes his solution is moral and ethical - then he is responsible for the results of the policy.  Not Israel.

                So let's move on to the core of your argument about me:

                Imagine how outrages you would be if someone gave that same choice to Jews or Israelis? You wouldn't be so sanguine about it would you? Your floundering attempts to blame anyone but Israel for this something that is Israel's responsibility is pathetic.
                Are you choosing to ignore this:
                In Libya, Jews were deprived of citizenship, and in Iraq, their property was seized. Those Jews who were forced to emigrate were not allowed to take their property.
                In total it is estimated that 800,000 to 1,000,000 Jews were forced out or fled from their homes in Arab countries from 1948 until the early 1970s. Some place the emigration peak to a slightly earlier time window of 1944 to 1964, when some 700,000 Jews moved to Israel from Arab countries and were dispossessed of nearly their entire property.[25]
                Egypt:
                In 1948, approximately 75,000 Jews lived in Egypt. About 100 remain today, mostly in Cairo. The exodus of Egyptian Jews had begun following the 1945 Cairo pogrom, though was not significant until 1948. In June 1948, a bomb exploded in Cairo's Karaite quarter, killing 22 Jews. In July 1948, Jewish shops and the Cairo Synagogue were attacked, killing 19 Jews.[3] Hundreds of Jews were arrested and had their property confiscated. Nearly 40% of the Jewish population of Egypt had left the country by 1950.[2]
                ...
                Thousands of Jews were ordered to leave the country. They were allowed to take only one suitcase and a small sum of cash, and forced to sign declarations "donating" their property to the Egyptian government. Foreign observers reported that members of Jewish families were taken hostage, apparently to insure that those forced to leave did not speak out against the Egyptian government.
                Iraq
                In 1948, there were approximately 150,000 Jews in Iraq. The community was concentrated in Baghdad and Basra. By 2003, there were only about 100 left of this previously thriving community. In 1941, following Rashid Ali's pro-Axis coup, riots known as the Farhud broke out in Baghdad in which some 180 Jews were killed and another 240 were wounded; 586 Jewish-owned businesses were looted and 99 Jewish houses were destroyed.[41]
                ...
                In March 1950, hoping to stem the flow of assets from the country, Iraq passed a law of one year duration allowing Jews to emigrate on the condition of relinquishing their Iraqi citizenship. They were motivated, according to Ian Black, by "economic considerations, chief of which was that almost all the property of departing Jews reverted to the state treasury" and also that "Jews were seen as a restive and potentially troublesome minority that the country was best rid of."
                Libya
                In 1948, about 38,000 Jews lived in Libya.[48][49] A series of pogroms started in Tripoli in November 1945; over a period of several days more than 130 Jews (including 36 children) were killed, hundreds were injured, 4,000 were left homeless, and 2,400 were reduced to poverty. Five synagogues in Tripoli and four in provincial towns were destroyed, and over 1,000 Jewish residences and commercial buildings were plundered in Tripoli alone.[19] The pogroms continued in June 1948, when 15 Jews were killed and 280 Jewish homes destroyed.[50]
                ...
                The Libyan government "urged the Jews to leave the country temporarily", permitting them each to take one suitcase and the equivalent of $50...
                As you can see, some of this starts before the State of Israel was formed, and the list goes on and on.  Are YOU outraged, do you blame Israel for these activities as well?

                This is not about two wrongs making a right.  This is about the fact that there are innocents on both sides of this equation.  Ignoring one set of innocents so that you can "hand out in these diaries", serves what purpose?

                I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

                by Hey338Too on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 08:45:44 AM PST

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                •  Again with the lack of reading comprehension (5+ / 0-)

                  and with repeating specious questions that have already been answered.

                  When I say multiple countries bear responsibility for the current condition of the Palestinian refugees, I mean multiple countries bear responsibility for the current condition of the Palestinian refugees.  Period.

                  When I say that Israel bears special responsibility, that does not cancel out the responsibility that other countries also bear.  Responsibility is not a zero sum game.  Period.

                  Why does Israel bear special responsibility?  Because of the Nakba.  Period.  Israel is the homeland of the Palestinians who were expelled in 1947-48 and are now in the diaspora, just as it is also the homeland of the Jews.  Again, just like responsibility, homeland is not a zero sum game.

                  As for the rest of what you've written here, you're simply repeating things to which people have also responded.  Fire bad has made it very clear on numerous occasions that she believes, as do I and others, that refugees, whether Palestinian or Jewish or whatever or whoever, deserve equitable treatment.  You are simply making stuff up here, and I am asking you to stop it now.

                  •  Nothing is being made up. (0+ / 0-)

                    I have yet to see any of these diaries explicitly present both sides of this issue.  Show me an Aldalah diary which talks about equitable treatment for the Jews displaced from Arab lands vis a vis the current situation with the Palestinians.

                    I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

                    by Hey338Too on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 10:11:10 AM PST

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                    •  the Israeli side (3+ / 0-)

                      is presented in the first video posted in this diary.

                      •  Then "it's better they die in Syria... (0+ / 0-)

                        ... than give up their right of return" is the Palestinian side.  Land over lives, does that sum it up equitably?

                        I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

                        by Hey338Too on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 02:00:23 PM PST

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                        •  see (0+ / 0-)

                          here

                          But I guess that you would also condemn the state motto of New Hampshire which is 'Live Free or Die' or you would also object to sentiments like 'It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees'. Because when Palestinians fight for their rights and are prepared to die, they are violent, terrorists, have a culture of death blah blah blah but when Americans or Israelis fight for their rights and are prepared to die, they are heroes and glorified eternally. This is hypocrisy and double standards and the endless spouting of this racist drivel is part of the reason many Arabs choose not to hand out in these diaries.
                          Maybe repetition will get you to comprehend the point that you are making claims that are considered hypocritical and racist. Unless  you are prepared to also say that Americans and Israelis and everyone else is also not entitled to fight to the death to protect their rights. And if I see you bringing up this racist drivel again, I will hr you. If you don't understand why it's racist, go find out.
                          •  I saw your response, reposting it doesn't make... (0+ / 0-)

                            ... it any more profound.  

                            Here's the point.  Look at my very first post in this diary, then look at the three responses to it.  My first post is about Israeli soldiers doing something good, saving 7 lives, and not one of you can see any good in those actions.  Not a single member of this group has anything positive to say about the humanity of one group of people (yes, I know they are Israeli soldiers) towards another group of people (yes, I know they are injured Syrian soldiers).  That is nothing but shameful and hypocritical.

                            7 lives were saved, but you - Fire bad tree pretty - you have decided that they were the wrong 7 lives.  IIRC, those 7 lives weren't worth as much as the 1 life (who apparently survived the flu) you used as an example in one of your responses.  Who the hell are you to make a determination like that?  

                            And you accuse me of double standards and "racist drivel".

                            I haven't been here long enough to be considered a Kossack, does that mean that I'm just a sack?

                            by Hey338Too on Mon Feb 25, 2013 at 07:00:13 PM PST

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                          •  First of all (1+ / 0-)
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                            me or anyone else not celebrating Israel's actions is not racist. Get your definitions right. Second, I didn't say Israel should not have done it or it was the wrong thing. I'm pointing out that while you celebrate this event, Israel is doing a whole host of other objectionable things that you are obviously blind to, yet you somehow want to set approving of these actions as some sort of exclusive litmus test. My view is taking in those 7 who were right under their nose is the least they can do. But, in behaving the way they are towards refugees, Israel is showing itself to be worse than the surrounding countries in its behavior.

                      •  That video is illuminating, and it should be (0+ / 0-)

                        viewed by people on both sides of the issue.  Kudos to you for posting it.

                        But your claim that, by presenting a video of this rather grotesque settler, you have presented the "Israeli side," thereby suggesting that it brings some semblance of balance to your presentation . . . well . . . that's just a blatantly dishonest statement.

                    •  As an Adalah member (4+ / 0-)

                      I appreciate your concern with the diaries published under our name.  But now that you've gone from your misreading of what I wrote to "look over there" type comments about Adalah in general, I am going to ask you to please stop doing so and to stay focused on the subject matter of the diary.  If you want to write a diary about the displacement of Jews from Arab countries, I personally would find that quite interesting.  But if you continue to try to derail, it is appropriate for others (not me, at least not in this thread, as we've been engaged in conversation) to HR you.

            •  But I guess (4+ / 0-)

              that you would also condemn the state motto of New Hampshire which is 'Live Free or Die' or you would also object to sentiments like 'It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees'. Because when Palestinians fight for their rights and are prepared to die, they are violent, terrorists, have a culture of death blah blah blah but when Americans or Israelis fight for their rights and are prepared to die, they are heroes and glorified eternally. This is hypocrisy and double standards and the endless spouting of this racist drivel is part of the reason many Arabs choose not to hand out in these diaries.

            •  Too bad (4+ / 0-)

              this Palestinian couple in Beit Safafa was not given medical care when it was required. Maybe they should become members of the FSA so that they can get medical care from Israel?

  •  Just wow! (12+ / 0-)

    That first video is just crazy. 'When the Messiah comes you will be our slaves'. So hurry up and let me steal your land. I'll take half now and the rest when I feel like it. That's what Palestinians put up with.

  •  When the Messiah comes...he will be mad !! (2+ / 0-)
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    Yes...give the 'settler' half now, and next year, he will want half of what is left until the Palistinian farmer has none.

    When this Massiah comes, he is going to be really...really angry that in his name, someone ruined his credit and reputation by buying weapons used to steal land, and dignity, and humanity from someone else.

    The true strength of of an oath is forged in adversity.

    by Nur Alia Chang on Sat Feb 23, 2013 at 05:53:55 AM PST

    •  News flash! (2+ / 0-)
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      There is/was no "Messiah". Therefore he will not be "coming" or "coming back" at any time in the future.

      •  There is too much life to live.... (1+ / 0-)
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        There is too much life to live for me to worry about if the Messiah comes ot does not.

        I do belive in God.  To me worrying about death, or the end of the world is a waste of precious life time.

        If this Messiah comes, I want to be able to think him or her for every second of a full life.

        The true strength of of an oath is forged in adversity.

        by Nur Alia Chang on Sat Feb 23, 2013 at 06:16:53 PM PST

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        •  You are still insinuating that there is (0+ / 0-)

          a "Messiah"... then you say you don't want to worry whether there is a messiah or not, but you also don't want to take time thinking about this messiah... and then you follow up that with the statement that you want to thank this messiah for your life just in case he/she shows up.  None of this makes sense. See what religion does to your brain?

          •  Lighten up, Francis. (1+ / 0-)
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            The best way to prevent abortions is to arm fetuses.

            by Flyswatterbanjo on Sat Feb 23, 2013 at 09:39:36 PM PST

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          •  Worrying about 'the messiah' is.... (1+ / 0-)
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            Worrying about the 'Messiah' is kind of like...in American comedys worrying about when the mother in law charater is coming to visit.

            You know she is coming, you know that all the cleaning and shining, and cooking, and whatever you do to make her think you are a good wife wont be good enough...but you worry, sweat every detail, and try to please her anyway.

            I am one of those women who go the route that she wont ask about, and see the result.

            I give my husband a gigantic smile on his face 'the night before' (understand?)....and do what makes me a good wife when she isnt here.

            That way, we both get 'enjoyment' from her visit.

            The true strength of of an oath is forged in adversity.

            by Nur Alia Chang on Sun Feb 24, 2013 at 06:08:19 AM PST

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