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In 2010 Senator Centerfold Scott Brown was the MA GOP's attempt to redesign the image of a MA Republican candidate. They hoped this make-over would gain traction in a statewide race for an open US Senate seat. This newly designed candidate should declare he is pro choice, support same-sex marriage, he must identify with the middle class, insist he would work with "both sides of the aisle," and looooook goooood while making those promises so the voters might miss the double-speak. While designing the new candidate, someone spotted his $600 leather barn coat hanging in a closet and they fell in love with his pickup truck, developing an image that sold. Until, of course, he actually had the job and was busted doing tea-partish things like signing the Grover Norquist pledge. The MA GOP forgot we actually pay attention to what our politicians do once elected. After the MA primaries on April 30, 2013, will we see a different sort of campaign? Who will wear the barn coat? What kind of truck will he drive? Or even more important, does one of our Democratic primary candidates have a barn coat hidden in his closet?

Last night we popped the popcorn and settled in to watch the local ABC affiliate, WCVB's, two half-hour debates.  

The three Republican candidates were up first:

All three declared war on "Obamacare" -promising to work to repeal the whole plan.  They all want means testing for anyone collecting disability, and want no means testing for Social Security... blah blah republicanspeak ... blah blah

On social issues Michael Sullivan, (who only recently flip-flopped on his anti-gay marriage position) declared himself a federalist and agreed with Dan Winslow and political newcomer Gabriel Gomez that DOMA should be overturned and decisions about same-sex marriage should be left to the states. Since MA already legalized same-sex marriage they didn't need to promise anything to either side of the issue. But Winslow did declare himself in favor of same-sex marriage. The other two ... well they were ready for the next question.

On abortion, Sullivan reiterated his pro-life position as a good Catholic, mumbled something about the church's position on contraception being confusing and left it there. Gomez also said his commitment to the Catholic church was unfaltering and he is pro life. Dan Winslow separated himself as the one who is socially less conservative saying those decisions should be left to women.

Right now, Michael Sullivan has a pretty good lead in the polls ...

The Democratic debate between the two Congressmen, Markey and Lynch, gave us this weird feeling that Lynch should be wearing a barn coat:

Tonight the moderator established that Lynch voted for the sequester, while Markey voted against it. Markey called Lynch out on the loss of jobs in MA as a result of that vote.

On healthcare, Lynch, who voted against Obama's healthcare bill, stumbled a bit as he cited reasons; anti-trust exemptions that created problems for MA companies who make medical supplies and that it "piled taxes" on employers.  (All of this is most likely labor union related. Many labor unions provide "Cadillac health insurance plans" that may have been subject to taxes and that incurred costs when having to integrate things like covering kids up to 26 years old. Lynch is endorsed by the MA building trades {unions} council.)

Markey voted for the healthcare bill and chastised his fellow Congressman for not supporting an effort that was generations in the making, telling him when his fellow Democrats needed him - he wasn't there. He spoke of Teddy Kennedy and John Kerry's efforts to establish a national healthcare.  He said he is proud that NARAL and Planned Parenthood considered his support of the plan when they endorsed him.

On abortion the moderator noted that Markey changed his position in the 1980's but Lynch has been slower to evolve. Markey again spoke of his endorsement by Planned Parenthood and NARAL and his belief that a woman's right to chose should be protected at all costs.

Lynch said that yes, he is pro life, and made a point to say that he has been hearing lately that he isn't "pro-life enough." (Perhaps the Catholic church isn't happy with him?) He did say that although he is personally pro life, he didn't think government should be involved in that decision. But- he is still calling himself, pro life. He attacked Markey by saying that in the 1980's Markey voted against Roe v. Wade, accusing him of "not just flip-flopping but doing acrobatics."

Markey responded that for 30 years he has aggressively supported a woman's right to choose. (Yep.)

During the last part of the debate when each candidate could ask the other questions, Markey did the Markey thing, throwing a softball at Lynch asking him to describe the work he'd done for Veterans and asking him what more we need to do.  Lynch was actually a little surprised and thanked Markey for the question before describing his programs and legislation that help veterans. When it was Markey's turn to respond, he said he supported Lynch's programs, that we we need to do more, and thanked Lynch for all he has done.

In an interview by another station's political reporter after the debate the reporter told Lynch it appeared that Markey was suggesting that he was too conservative to represent the Democrats.

Lynch laughed and said, "Yah, he's probably right!" Then more seriously, "no, I mean I am a moderate Democrat."

Huh?

The same reporter told Markey that Lynch was accusing him of changing his position on abortion (leaving out that that change was back in the 1980's.) Markey responded that his record speaks for itself, as do the groups who are endorsing him.  

When we sat back and looked at the whole hour - at all five candidates - it really seemed like Ed Markey was the only Democrat in the group.

And out of all five, the barn coat would look best on Lynch - perhaps he left it in his truck.

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Personal notes, as a beneficiary of a trades union healthcare plan in MA, and as someone whose passion for women's rights sometimes takes a front seat to everything else ...

ON LYNCH'S VOTE AGAINST OBAMA'S HEALTHCARE PLAN:

I can still remember the image of Stephen Lynch being interviewed outside somewhere in South Boston after he voted against Obama's healthcare plan. He told the reporter he was concerned about the tax on the healthcare plans for his union.  

I am a beneficiary of a trades union healthcare plan - a so-called Cadillac plan.

I know we've seen some increases in costs. And, when most other plans began covering children under 26 in January of the first year, our union plan had been given until that following July to establish that coverage. Our two children were beyond college and under 26 and literally without healthcare until our plan allowed them.

Our union provides us excellent coverage, but, it is over and done with when the insured retires. Coverage does not extend into retirement. And, that's when all of those union members who support Lynch will appreciate that his vote didn't prevent Obama's healthcare plan from passing.

ON ABORTION:

This issue cannot - MUST not-  have any blurred lines.  We need legislators who understand the issue without trying to maintain a pro-life connection with a church.

And, if the Catholic church has such an influence on Lynch's position on abortion, then how does it effect his positions on same-sex marriage and contraception?

When religion plays such an important part in your decisions, are you true to your faith if you pick and choose which issues are influenced?

Lynch's pro-life position, his vote against the healthcare bill and other questionable positions have given him the DINO moniker among many Democrats. True, he is loved in his district and by several unions and he should remain their Congressman. Right now, it's not just MA, it is the country who needs a Democrat in the US Senate seat. I mean a real Democrat.

you can see both debates here:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/...

Originally posted to 51 Percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 03:30 AM PDT.

Also republished by Massachusetts Kosmopolitans and Pro Choice.

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  •  Tip Jar (25+ / 0-)

    Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

    by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 03:30:13 AM PDT

  •  Markey is the man and will make a great senator. (7+ / 0-)

    All we need is the vote and how much margin Markey will deserve and enjoy.

  •  thank you, 51 !! (5+ / 0-)

    ed markey is senator for the PLANET !

    There is no Article II power which says the Executive can violate the Constitution.--@Hugh * Addington's Perpwalk: TRAILHEAD of Accountability for Bush-2 Crimes.

    by greenbird on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 04:07:20 AM PDT

  •  just a caution on Democratic primary (11+ / 0-)

    Markey is backed by SEIU, AFSCME and the teachers

    the other unions are pretty solidly behind Lynch, in part because he used to be President of the local Ironworkers.

    the most recent poll by WBUR had Markey ahead 35-24, but note two things

    1.  there is still a huge undecided

    2.  Lynch has a far better favorable-unfavorable of 37-12 compared to Markey's 32-23

    Both men were known by somewhat less than 1/3 of the electorate

    it is not clear how effective TV and Radio will be in turning out voters in a likely very low turnout election.

    SEIU has a good field game, but groups like the Firefighters, who are supporting Lynch, have an even better field game.

    do not presume at this point that Markey is going to win.

    In saying that I am NOT advocating for Lynch, merely offering some cautionary analysis

    "We didn't set out to save the world; we set out to wonder how other people are doing and to reflect on how our actions affect other people's hearts." - Pema Chodron

    by teacherken on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 04:34:01 AM PDT

    •  Point taken (5+ / 0-)
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      I will note that Markey is at 44-11 among registered Democrats, better than Lynch. Lynch's fav-unfav is so gaudy because he's as popular among registered Republicans -- who will not vote in the Dem primary -- and Markey's name is mud with that group. That alone makes up most of the difference.

      I share the concern that, so far, Lynch has been able to skate on his unpalatable positions. Markey needs to draw the distinction more starkly. Lynch was up 24-5 among voters age 18-29, with a full 70% undecided. That should not happen. Young women, in particular, seem to know little about him outside his own (quite good) biographical ad.

      But I'd bet a fair amount of those undecided who have paid no attention will not show up for the primary. Activists will turn out. Turnout is not only a union game here. In my city of Newton, we have a very strong Dem Party and we are big for Markey. We usually have high turnout in such things and will work like hell to make it happen this time. A lot of the Warren volunteers are in for Markey.

      If I do wake up May 1 and Lynch is the nominee, he will have to win in June without my help or my vote. I will not mark an oval for that man.

      Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

      by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 07:04:58 AM PDT

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      •  I was at the standout last night (2+ / 0-)
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        outside WCVB studios and the Lynch people, almost all from the building trades, outnumbered Markey's folks by two or three to one.  It was more than a bit disconcerting, and showed the Lynch campaign is already geared up and mobilizing, while Markey's seems to be still getting off the ground.

        Lynch is on the air already with a biographical ad, the "I am Spartacus Stephen Lynch" one that's been written about here on dkos, while Markey's got no air presence yet that I've seen.

        Also, Lynch got to the studio about an hour early, and his people announced his arrival with chants, cheers, and whistles.  Markey pulled in about a half hour before air time, and the only way we knew he was there was because I recognized him in the front seat of the SUV.  Then we started chanting.

        Markey is far and away the better candidate.  The clips I heard from the debate and in the write-up here make it pretty clear he owned Lynch.  But I'm starting to wonder if he's pulling a Coakley.

        He needs to work for his seat.  I'm not certain he's working hard enough yet.

        When the union's inspiration /Through the workers' blood shall run /There can be no power greater /Anywhere beneath the sun /Solidarity Forever!

        by litho on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 07:35:49 AM PDT

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        •  Markey has at least two television ads out that (5+ / 0-)

          have been getting regular play: one dealing with gun control, and the other with the BP gulf oil spill.  Neither is, in my view, particularly effective.  He's preaching to the choir, instead of focusing on issues that really distinguish himself from Lynch.

          Markey will be the far better Congressman, but he is certainly not the better candidate.  His campaign seems to have adopted the Martha Coakley m.o., based upon an underlying assumption of entitlement to the job.

          •  Not sure about entitlement (6+ / 0-)

            but he seems awful cautious. Playing like a favorite who wants to run out the clock. Low public profile, at least so far, as he's been raising money.

            I think his ads (NRA and making BP accountable for oil spill) are about important issues that progressives support, but are too narrowly focused and not specific enough to Massachusetts. I think he needs to tell his own blue-collar Massachusetts biography and, in a single ad, hit all the issues that separate him from Lynch.

            At the debate I thought Lynch was full of shit, but in the way that could work with the uninformed. Lynch seems to be counting on an electorate that doesn't know much about him, and so far he's getting that wish.

            Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

            by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 08:24:37 AM PDT

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          •  I guess I don't watch enough tv... n/t (0+ / 0-)

            When the union's inspiration /Through the workers' blood shall run /There can be no power greater /Anywhere beneath the sun /Solidarity Forever!

            by litho on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 10:15:06 AM PDT

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        •  UNIONS ARE good at standouts. Did you see women (3+ / 0-)
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          with them? The truth is the % of women in the trades is in the single percentage. The actual numbers are hard to get, but anyone who knows these unions, knows they manage to meet minimums on jobs requiring quotas, but it is often hard to find a woman on most jobs.

          If the trades unions had any significant percentage of women as members - do you think they wouldn't get push-back supporting Lynch.

          We need women to get involved from anywhere and everywhere -
          Please consider how you might help: http://www.dailykos.com/...

          We need to stop critiquing the campaign here-  send the campaign an email, call them, give them your thoughts directly. Write a letter to the globe - write a letter to any local paper in an area where lynch is strong - send money.
          Help with this abbreviated campaign.  

          Women have too much to loose here.

          (de-ja-vu moment - I think I made the same statement when warren was running against senator centerfold...)

          Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

          by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:29:33 AM PDT

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          •  Letters to the editor (2+ / 0-)
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            Great comment, agree with all. Just wanted to flag the comment re: letters to the editor. I've seen a lot of pro-Markey letters to local papers pop up in my Google feed, which has been encouraging. A lot of folks at the local level are clearly taking ownership and talking to their neighbors this way. This will bear fruit and is encouraging.

            Agree re: lack of women in the pro-Lynch unions. All the more reason it is insane that Markey isn't polling better with women. The unions that have endorsed Markey skew female and are more racially diverse. Only exception is the nurses, which really makes me shake my head but there's always one exception to prove the rule, eh? The unions that skew female and more diverse are overwhelmingly for Markey -- for very good reason.

            I was at a state Dem committee meeting about 2 months ago where both Markey & Lynch spoke. Reception to Lynch was polite but my table which was almost all African American women went nuts when Lynch tried to sell the BS that he and Markey's voting records are 95% the same. The eye rolls were EPIC. "Yeah and it's that 5% that really matters" was what every woman in that hall was thinking, you could see it. The reception for Markey was at rock star levels in comparison.

            Woman like myself at the activist level in Mass Dem politics know exactly who Steve Lynch is and we rarely like what we've seen. We need to let other women know the truth before it's too late.

            My vote for Markey's next TV ad would be a bio piece, followed quickly by an ad on women's issues broadly but especially women's health (abortion, contraception, insurance discrimination, etc). He needs to HAMMER Lynch on that record and when he does the numbers among women voters will shift.

            "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

            by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:44:53 AM PDT

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            •  At our Newton (2+ / 0-)
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              Dem Caucus the reception for Lynch proxies was chilly. One of our members asked, quite pointedly, if Lynch would tell the parade people to drop the bigotry. Proxy said he'd "pass the message" on but Lynch continues to call it a "First Amendment issue." Everyone I know here is for Markey. Everyone.

              I also noticed how Lynch tried to sell himself as Mr. Blue Hill Av. last night. Please. He's Louise Day Hicks with a hardhat.

              Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

              by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 04:30:18 PM PDT

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              •  Louise DAY HICKS! LOL dating yourself (0+ / 0-)

                She had a summer house in my neighborhood (in the irish riviera - I was a year-round resident and not irish) and in the summers I delivered her newspaper. I remember collecting from her once, and she answered the door looking like she was going to a television appearance.... odd woman.  
                Perfect analogy. I forgot about that blue hill ave thing, we cringed and poopooed that one. I actually told my husband it made me uncomfortable as he was using terms like black neighborhoods (referring to poorer areas) and black ministers. Major cringe factor.

                Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

                by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 06:54:37 PM PDT

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                •  I am more of a history buff (0+ / 0-)

                  than dating myself. I'm 37. She was off the scene before my time.

                  Happy to compare notes or whatever. FWIW, I'm Irish but I don't stand for that shit.

                  Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

                  by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 07:31:05 PM PDT

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                  •  I'm not old enuf to be your mother but (0+ / 0-)

                    I am old enough to remember that woman - I grew up surrounded by the Irish - nothing against them, but I didn't go to the catholic church so I was always just a little on the outside... I did go to KFC dances!
                    I remember busing and riots and the way Southie was, even though I was 50 miles away - we knew about race turf wars and battles and things people don't talk much about these days. Let's just say, I am a little younger than Lynch and he reminds me of some of the Southie guys who'd come to visit - not live in the palacial or even cottage second homes or roll around in money, but who'd come stir up trouble etc - in the summers....

                    I lived in Savin hill in the early 80's while I went to school and learned a lot about the various cultures in the area.  

                    "I am Stephen Lynch" with a woman of color in a hard-had is so disingenuous for so many reasons, I mean the only thing missing with that image is a barn coat! If he can't be himself outside of southie and win outside of southie, well - lets hope people see through it and see who "himself" really is ...

                    Of course so much of that has changed now, but if his pro-life position hasn't evolved ... well what else still needs evolving?

                    If you can send me any info about background - please message me. I got frustrated doing research a couple of months ago.

                    Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

                    by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 08:29:38 PM PDT

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  •  NARAL called me about Markey (4+ / 0-)

    and asked for a donation to get him to the Senate. They laid out all the anti-choice crap that Lynch has voted for.

    I looked at a poll that shows Markey way ahead. Is there any danger of Lynch winning?

    •  Sure (1+ / 0-)
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      Markey, on the issues, would be the clear choice of most Mass. Democrats, but will his people show up? People are not engaged in this election so far. Not like it was with Warren-Brown at all. Turnout promises to be low and Lynch has union support that's good at turnout.

      Lynch has been more aggressive thus far. More yard signs and stickers, more people in the streets, better ads. It took Markey two months to get a website up and he had no public appearances on his calendar for a month. The polling shows some troubling signs. For example, in the last poll voters age 18-29 don't seem to have a clue about either guy, but the few who've made a choice support Lynch 24-5.

      Markey should win, but Lynch sure can make it interesting. Markey needs to step it up.

      Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

      by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 08:46:07 AM PDT

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    •  Glad to hear it (0+ / 0-)

      League of Conservation Voters has been going door-to-door for Markey. Their flyers are everywhere, stick to doors. So they're clearly reaching out to their membership aggressively. PP and NARAL doing the same will be a huge help! Thanks for letting us know. This is heartening as we hit the doors on Saturday!!

      "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

      by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:46:44 AM PDT

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  •  From Blue Mass Group (8+ / 0-)

    comes this excellent post.

    Lynch made a lot of hay about the ACA delivering 31 million new customers to the private insurance companies. Pretended he voted no from the left. Well, a public option would have given people...another option. And when people were fighting for one in 2009, he was opposed. And got booed on Boston Common for it. So yeah.

    Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

    by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 06:57:36 AM PDT

    •  During the public option debate (5+ / 0-)
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      Lynch spoke against it.  When the final bill came to the floor of the House, he voted no because, wait for it, it had... no public option.

      He's a liar and a whore.  No offense meant to actual sex workers...

      When the union's inspiration /Through the workers' blood shall run /There can be no power greater /Anywhere beneath the sun /Solidarity Forever!

      by litho on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 07:37:49 AM PDT

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  •  I'm pleased to see that Markey now has (1+ / 0-)
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    a functioning Senate campaign Web site that actually explains why he is a Better Democrat. It lists the issues in this order, apparently of priority:

    • Jobs and Economy
    • Environment and Energy
    • Climate
    • Technology and Telecommunications
    • Healthcare
    • Safety and Security

    There are Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube feeds, plus press releases on endorsements and events. Also, you can volunteer for his campaign on the site.

    On Lynch's Web site the issues are, in alphabetical order,

    • Afghanistan
    • Education
    • Energy
    • Equal Pay for Women
    • Healthcare
    • Jobs
    • Labor
    • LGBT Issues
    • Middle East Peace
    • Reproductive Health
    • Sequestration
    • Social Security
    • Stopping Gun Violence
    • Trade Agreements
    • Wall Street
    • Veterans

    So, yes, the Reproductive Health video starts with him proclaiming that he is Pro-Life, then obfuscating the issue, then saying that we should not attack Roe v. Wade. Gender gap, anyone? On education he favors Head Start, but he seems to blame parents and children for current problems, not wrong-headed policies that punish teachers and children.

    Plenty there for further opposition research.

    Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

    by Mokurai on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 07:06:20 AM PDT

    •  Unfortunately, not so much (1+ / 0-)
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      so far.

      So, yes, the Reproductive Health video starts with him proclaiming that he is Pro-Life, then obfuscating the issue, then saying that we should not attack Roe v. Wade. Gender gap, anyone?
      In yesterday's poll,

      Markey up 42-27 among men, only 30-23 among women.  

      Interestingly Markey's lead among men comes exclusivley from men ages 50+ (he's up 62-16). Lynch leads 2 to 1 (38-19) among men ages 18-49.

      For women it's the reverse: Markey up 27-16 among women ages 18-49, but only 32-28 among women 50+

      Among women age 18-49:

      Lynch 29% favorable, 5% unfavorable
      Markey: 22-10 (worse)

      Women 50+:

      Lynch 44-11
      Markey 40-18 (again slightly worse)

      Pro-choice voters:

      Lynch 36-13 (way too high and identical to his 36-15 with "pro-life" respondents)
      Markey 45-12 (better)

      So far Lynch is hiding his conservative social positions pretty well.

      Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

      by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:13:04 AM PDT

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      •  Which is insane and scares me, frankly (3+ / 0-)
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        Because the voter universe for this election is overwhelmingly female so if Markey isn't closing the deal with women, that worries me greatly.

        The campaign is launching Women for Markey in a few days (April 4 kickoff) so clearly that can't get rolled out fast enough.

        Lynch's positions on women's rights are appalling from the perspective of your average Democratic female voter in Mass. That he's skating on this issue is a failure so far.

        Hopefully we can turn this around in the next 30 days. Lots of work to do. So let's take this information and get to work.

        "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

        by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:21:51 AM PDT

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        •  Women for Markey? (1+ / 0-)
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          The campaign is launching Women for Markey in a few days (April 4 kickoff) so clearly that can't get rolled out fast enough.
          I consider myself somewhat active and haven't heard anything about this.

          OK and I said I don't want to trash the campaign - it might be my own fault, but please is there a link or contact? Is this part of the campaign or an independent initiative?

          Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

          by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:36:23 AM PDT

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          •  Women for Markey Kickoff April 4 @ 6:30pm (1+ / 0-)
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            Not quite sure how they're publicizing, altho I just checked the campaign website events list and it's not on there. :: le sigh::

            Here's the info -- pass it on :-)

            women-launch_square

            "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

            by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:55:34 AM PDT

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        •  Scares me too (1+ / 0-)
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          There's time but this info needs to get out there. I thought he did OK last night but could have been more clear that Lynch was taking a right-wing anti-choice position only three years ago. To the uninitiated it sounds like they both flip-flopped, even though Markey changed his position more than 30 years ago and Lynch "changed" his last week.

          Phony bastard.

          Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

          by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 01:11:32 PM PDT

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  •  Really nice diary, thanks! n/t (3+ / 0-)
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  •  Come on MA, You can do it! (3+ / 0-)
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    it is the country who needs a(nother) Democrat in the US Senate seat
    You have given us one EXCELLENT Senator, now, the other!

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 07:46:14 AM PDT

  •  Although I support Markey (0+ / 0-)

    Lynch's criticism of the ACA is on the mark.  Particularly as we see the Obama administration more and more opening the door to Medicaid privatization.

    Lynch said he didn’t vote for the bill because “it was a very flawed bill and we missed a real opportunity to create real health care reform.”

    Markey described his own vote for the Affordable Care Act as “the proudest vote of my career” and said, “Steve, when that vote came up, you were wrong.”

    Lynch responded, “What we did there was wrong,” describing what he said were several flaws in the law and calling it a giveaway to health insurance companies.

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/...

    www.buonoforgovernor.com

    by Paleo on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:08:04 AM PDT

    •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

      that the ACA has major flaws. But the "giveaway to health insurance companies" is NOT why Lynch voted "no." He now says it's flawed because it lacked a public option. In 2009 he spoke on the House floor against the public option.

      This is a case of identifying flaws in the ACA, and the bailout, that are decried on the left and going with them, even though his opposition was not based on that. He's shamelessly trying to fool people.

      Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

      by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:19:03 AM PDT

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      •  When did he speak against the public option? (0+ / 0-)

        www.buonoforgovernor.com

        by Paleo on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:24:05 AM PDT

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        •  Lynch against pulic option (1+ / 0-)
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          Here ya go

          I have friends who were there when Lynch got booed -- by a union audience no less

          http://www.politico.com/...

          "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

          by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:33:08 AM PDT

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          •  public -- sorry for typo! (1+ / 0-)
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            "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

            by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:34:11 AM PDT

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          •  which unions? (0+ / 0-)

            trust me - he is treated like a God (apologies to Catholics, I'm sure that's inappropriate) by trades unions - if he were booed with an audience of his "brothers" they would remove those who boo.

            Teachers/SEIU etc.... (unions with women) whole different story.

            Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

            by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:46:35 AM PDT

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            •  This was a rally (1+ / 0-)
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              by a consortium supporting health care reform. Heavy SEIU presence.

              Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

              by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 04:03:54 PM PDT

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        •  Common knowledge (2+ / 0-)
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          He did it repeatedly and pissed off longtime allies.

          Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

          by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:39:16 AM PDT

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          •  And this is what worries me most abot Lynch (4+ / 0-)

            He seems to take pride in and almost revel in not being much of a Democrat. Heck it was one of his first comments at the debate last night. It reminds me of Lieberman's behavior -- Lieberman was much worse, mind you -- but it's way too close for comfort.

            "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

            by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:58:17 AM PDT

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          •  I don't know (0+ / 0-)

            I don't see him coming out against a public option.  I do see him dragging his feet, but he voted for the house bill and specifically supported the public option.

            www.buonoforgovernor.com

            by Paleo on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:59:17 AM PDT

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            •  Except for the times (0+ / 0-)

              he went all over Massachusetts speaking against the public option and all the people in organized labor who'd supported him for twenty years booed him lustily and didn't invite him to their breakfast and killed his dreams of the Senate in 2009-10. And then one of them primaried him because he didn't support the public option.

              So if you don't see it, you're not looking too hard.

              Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

              by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 01:03:12 PM PDT

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    •  soooo disagree - I see this as more a constituent (2+ / 0-)
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      issue for Lynch.  Union brothers were all told it would cost them more ... back then - when it actually happened, not now when history is revised, he said the did it b/c of the additional costs to those who already have comprehensive coverage.

      Yep - costs went up, but to many of us, it was worth it, my 24-25 year old kids are covered - one would have had no coverage in her job, the other would have had to pay 50% of the cost and couldn't pull that off w/rent and school loan payments.

      And, when we retire, we loose that coverage.

      Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

      by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:43:57 AM PDT

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      •  The tax on so-called "cadillac plans" (0+ / 0-)

        was pushed off for several years.

        www.buonoforgovernor.com

        by Paleo on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 10:00:19 AM PDT

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        •  but, as they put it ... for example forced (0+ / 0-)

          coverage of kids under 26 - and other provisions raised the costs. But, at most dinner tables, families have no problem with any increase in cost in exchange for protecting the health of young people ....

          Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

          by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 10:55:14 AM PDT

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          •  That's not why they did it (0+ / 0-)

            People 23 to 26 are among the least likely to raise the costs.  They did it to "bend the cost curve" by restricting coverage by making it more expensive.

            www.buonoforgovernor.com

            by Paleo on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 10:59:31 AM PDT

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  •  Yep, Ed Markey's got this election wrapped up (0+ / 0-)

    I think Stephen Lynch is toast because of his healthcare vote.  This first debate pretty much sealed it up for Ed Markey.

    Senator Ed Markey, welcome!

    •  I hope you're correct (3+ / 0-)
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      But this kind of attitude is what may lose this for us.

      I thought Markey was great in the debate, but there was all kinds of reaction last night that Lynch seemed like a "regular guy" blah blah Scott Brown media hagiography redux. I thought Markey landed some punches but let some others go by. Hopefully he'll get better as the debates go forward. Lynch has a strong ground game, we underestimate him at our peril. Turnout will be ANEMIC, believe me. The margin on April 30 could be insanely small. We need to act like we're 10 points down, seriously.

      "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

      by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:17:54 AM PDT

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      •  How so? (0+ / 0-)

        If Elizabeth Warren was able to fire up troops and beat Scott Brown, what makes you think Ed Markey can't defeat Stephen Lynch?

        And we should act like we're 10 points down.  Daily Kos needs to make an official endorsement for Ed Markey and start the campaign noise and donations STAT!

        •  Markey vs Warren (4+ / 0-)

          Elizabeth Warren was known statewide (heck, nationwide) before she even announced she was running. Sure she had to do a certain amount of introducing herself to voters, but she started out with a statewide network of very loyal and very passionate supporters, which then became a huge army of very loyal and very passionate supporters as the campaign organized aggressively across the state for over 1 year.

          I cannot stress enough how much people here among the Democratic base ADORE her and would go above and beyond for her, and that they were motivated to work insanely hard for her not just because of what she stood for and how she would vote but because of who she is.

          Markey -- who is a great guy with a stellar record -- just does not inspire this level of emotional connection and hence the depth of support just isn't the same.

          I actually very much do think Markey can fire up the troops and beat Steve Lynch. But this election is a very heavy lift. Not that getting Elizabeth elected wasn't a heavy lift -- believe me getting a woman elected statewide to a federal office from this insanely parochial state was HARD.

          But my point was that this special election is a unique and very challenging combination of circumstances. We need to be honest with ourselves -- and then work like crazy with eyes wide open.

          Wholeheartedly agree with both parts of your last sentence! :-) Cheers

          "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

          by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:30:11 AM PDT

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        •  they already endorsed him! but (1+ / 0-)
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          and perhaps it's because I'm a member now and I don't see ads, I don't see nearly as much play about this as I did with Warren.
          http://www.dailykos.com/...

          Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

          by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:49:29 AM PDT

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    •  You celebrate (5+ / 0-)

      I'll go knock on some doors. Lynch is a slippery character and this is not over by a long shot.

      Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

      by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:20:06 AM PDT

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  •  Great diary -- we need to WORK for this (3+ / 0-)
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    Could not agree more with all the comments above expressing that we who support Markey -- I am the volunteer coordinator for his hometown of Malden -- need to WORK for this and not take this for granted -- and that includes our candidate.

    I cannot explain why the Markey campaign has not done a bio TV ad, as Lynch has done. Both of them are overwhelmingly unknown outside their districts. This would seem to be a no-brainer. Not that I think the 2 ads Markey has done are bad, they are good and topical. But people need to be introduced to him. I know he's been barnstorming the state, but a bio TV ad would be a good complement to the in person events he's holding. ::sigh::

    Speaking as a longtime grassroots activist here in Mass, way too many people here are either burned out or think Markey has this in the bag. It has been tough motivating people (volunteers and voters), but the core group we have is super motivated and has been doing great. The vast majority of Obama and Warren activists are all in for Markey. We've definitely had to do some cautioning with voters we're meeting at the doors, some of whom think that Markey will walk away with this -- that kind of attitude is (a) wrong and (b) dangerous.

    I think it's very plausible that the primary on April 30 could be very close. We're going to have to bust our tails bc turnout is going to be anemic and the margin could be very close. That said, I think Markey will do very well and we will have strong showings in the places where we can run up the score: Cambridge, Somerville, Berkshires, Pioneer Valley, outer Cape etc. The old urban cores will probably be a mixed bag, some for Markey and some for Lynch. Who knows if the suburban moderates/indies will even turn out. If they turn out big it could help Lynch -- which is why we need to run up the score in areas where Markey should do really well -- a la the strategy that gave us Senator Elizabeth Warren.

    About 1 month out in 2012, there were many old timer insiders who were pretty unconvinced that Warren could win. And then she spanked Scottie by 8 points. So I am cautiously optimistic. But the most important word in that sentence is cautious. We need to WORK for this, all hands on deck.

    Please donate to Ed Markey today whatever you can -- http://www.edmarkey.com

    "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

    by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 09:13:55 AM PDT

    •  Hi I'm in Malden too (1+ / 0-)
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      I'm a very shy kind of person tho, so door knocking would be hard for me. I do plan on donating and I wouldn't mind leaving flyers around town and I definitely plan on getting all my neighbors to vote. Let me know what I can do!
        I LOVE Ed, he is such an environmental champion and I always send him messages of support through his website/newsletter.
      Warren is firing up her supporters too so that will give him some recognition. Markey has been such a shoo-in for so long that I agree he hasn't had to do hard campaigning for a long while, but I see him kicking into high gear with this website and Women for Markey launch.
      I'm optimistic but we gotta fight for this!

      •  Greetings fellow Maldonian! :-) (1+ / 0-)
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        We have a great group of volunteers in Malden for Markey, would love to introduce you!

        Send me an email at abs0628 at gmail.com and I will send you our list of upcoming events, and maybe we can chat more about how you can get involved!

        Thanks so much for reaching out to your neighbors!! This is the MOST effective way to get solid support for Ed. We have flyers and other resources that might be of interest to you as you reach out to them -- happy to help!

        Maybe I will see you at the Women for Markey launch event? I will be there with a bunch of other women from Malden who are big Markey supporters -- should be a great event to get us fired up!!

        By the way you can follow Malden for Markey on Facebook and Twitter:

        https://twitter.com/...

        https://www.facebook.com/...

        Cheers!

        "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

        by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 10:51:15 AM PDT

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      •  you are not alone (1+ / 0-)
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        there are so many people like you - I hope we will see more standouts as we get closer - it might not win elections but the major concerns I see here and other places are that Lynch's people are more visible.
        But again, unions are pro's at pickets and standouts. Calling and knocking on doors, nosomuch.

        Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

        by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 10:57:19 AM PDT

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        •  Standouts and yard signs vs doors & calls (1+ / 0-)
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          This has been a constant complaint and worry that I've heard about the Markey campaign, ever since early February (lack of signs, stand outs, visibility etc).

          The thing I keep telling myself is that we know, for a fact, that yard signs and stand outs don't win votes. And in contrast we know that talking directly to voters, repeatedly, especially if there's a personal connection (like ialonelady is planning to do with her neighbors) is the most effective way to get votes for Markey.

          Is the Lynch campaign IDing voters aggressively? I don't know. Markey is, let me tell you!

          And look at the signature drive. Markey's army got double the sigs that Lynch's folks got -- despite the constant weekend blizzards. People got all intimidated by the thought of all the union guys standing out in the snow getting sigs for Lynch -- but when push came to shove Markey out organized him.

          "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

          by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 11:33:55 AM PDT

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          •  I keep hearing this (1+ / 0-)
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            The thing I keep telling myself is that we know, for a fact, that yard signs and stand outs don't win votes.
            I know doors and IDing voters is more effective. But I would not discount the value of yard signs.

            Last night I watched the debate in Newton with a bunch of Markey supporters. Afterward my wife and I stuck around a bit to watch the Bruins. Two younger people at the bar were talking about the election. One asked the other who was running. Answer: "Well, I know there's Lynch. I guess there's another guy since they had a debate but all the signs I've seen around are for Lynch. So I guess he's, like, the favorite."

            Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

            by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 04:11:57 PM PDT

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        •  I must disagree with this: (0+ / 0-)
          Calling and knocking on doors, nosomuch.
          Actually, some of the "labor walks" were quite good, helping Elizabeth Warren (2012) and Deval Patrick (2010).

          Very effective in places like Worcester, Lynn, Lawrence, etc., especially in getting people who were indifferent to voting to see the importance of turning out.    

          "One of the greatest tragedies of man's long trek along the highway of history has been the limiting of neighborly concern to tribe, race, class or nation." M.L. King, Jr.

          by brae70 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 11:58:20 AM PDT

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          •  well then, we have to happy that more of them are (0+ / 0-)

            back at work after a few years of difficult and extended layoffs. Building is booming again in Boston.
            There was a slow-down because of the extensive storms this winter - thus many jobs are in catch-up mode and fewer guys are available for campaign duties.

            May be a reach ....

            Also, the biggest concern among many of us is that one side or the other will be alienated and not show up when it's boots-on-the-ground time for the general election in this "special election."

            Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

            by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 02:17:13 PM PDT

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            •  If Markey wins, he won't alienate the unions. (0+ / 0-)

              He has been a staunch supporter while in the House.  Some of his supporters may, but the candidate himself won't.

              "One of the greatest tragedies of man's long trek along the highway of history has been the limiting of neighborly concern to tribe, race, class or nation." M.L. King, Jr.

              by brae70 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 05:07:59 PM PDT

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  •  Steve Lynch is a sleaze (5+ / 0-)

    Wrong on the war. Wrong on healthcare.

    No democrat did more to trash healthcare reform than Lynch. His opposition to the public option killed it. And for him to then come out and oppose the final bill because it didn't have a public option is one of the most galling examples of hypocrisy and hubris in decades. His opposition to the bill gave cover to others to oppose the bill.

    You wanna know why Martha Coakley got her butt kicked in Southie? Ask Steve Lynch. Lynch tried to out tea party the tea party. That and a little misogyny.

    He was my congress critter. I worked against him when he had primary opposition. Every time I encountered him I felt like taking a shower afterwards. He's got an creepy aura of sleaze around him, and an arrogance. And that entourage he's always got with him wouldn't be out of place at a WWF event.

    I have pictures of myself with many politicians, including his predecessor Joe Moakley. None with Lynch. Refused to ever pose with the guy.

    Joe Moakley, and John McCormack before him, showed that you can win in Southie without playing to the dark side of the neighborhood. I loved Joe Moakley, he was a solid working class progressive who worked to end our bullshit involvement in Central America. His picture is hanging on my wall.

    Lynch and the Bulgers succeeded by appealing to the dark side of Southie.

    This is gonna be a fight. But it is Markey's to lose. We cannot afford to elect Lynch. Trust me, most of his votes would negate Elizabeth Warren's.

    This is the fight that matters, Lynch vs. Markey. The GOP knows it had it's one hit wonder in 2010. Mass Dems will not get caught by surprise in the general again.

    The big question: where's Tommy Menino? Da Mayor delivered for Warren, big time. IF he sides with Markey, Markey wins.

    And the suburban women? Jeezus I can't see them voting for Lynch.

    Peace on Earth was all it said.

    by BobBlueMass on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 10:15:09 AM PDT

    •  This (1+ / 0-)
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      Lynch and the Bulgers succeeded by appealing to the dark side of Southie.
      He won his first race by representing, pro bono, thugs who harassed a Puerto Rican guy in their project. He primaried the incumbent Dem state rep because he hadn't sufficiently defended the discrimination against gay groups in the local St. Patrick's Day parade. Proudly ran as the "conservative candidate" for "our values."

      On Beacon Hill he was anti-choice and anti-gay every time it came up. Won in 2001 when Moakley passed because liberal candidates split the vote and he was Mr. Social Conservative.

      Now he's running statewide and he's pro-gay-marriage but still sees fit to support the bigoted parade every year. Bull.

      Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

      by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 04:17:18 PM PDT

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      •  that is all stuff I want to write about, but I (0+ / 0-)

        don't know enough about it. There was always this uncomfortable feeling of ... and I can't even say it because it's extreme, so lets say, supportive of those who are irish or look like irish ...? But there is little concrete in writing to refer to - if you can help me, message me.

        Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

        by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 06:58:29 PM PDT

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  •  Excellent comment (2+ / 0-)
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    Yeah the two faced stuff on the public option is disgusting to witness.

    I thought Lynch came across last night as extremely un-Senatorial. He always strikes me as a profoundly local politician, and I don't mean that in the good way. Parochial. Lack of vision. I kept wanting to yell at the TV: You're running for a statewide federal office, idiot!!

    The stuff on the bank bailout is a good case in point. Heck even Elizabeth Warren has said she probably would have voted for the bailout, with TONS more oversight and strings and controls. Markey's vote on that was a tough call. That's what leaders do. They're not always proven 100% correct but being a US Senator isn't bean bag, for crying out loud.

    Lynch clearly loves to be contrarian -- I agree with you he would be a constant headache if elected to the Senate. Elizabeth Warren would be joining us all in buying stock in Pepto.

    Re: Menino -- My gut says he stays out of this until after the primary. Same for Warren. They don't want to get in the middle of an intra-Dem fight for good reason. Which is another reason I think the primary is going to be rough and close -- all the big guns will be on the sidelines, waiting. It's up to us.

    Re: suburban moderate women -- I can't see them voting for Lynch either -- unless no one tells them about his crappy record on women's issues and Markey's incredibly strong record in comparison. The kickoff for the Women for Markey initiative really can't come soon enough!

    Cheers!

    "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting." ~ Bruce Springsteen

    by abs0628 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 11:08:03 AM PDT

    •  Paul Krugman (1+ / 0-)
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      would have voted for the bailout. It should have had more strings attached -- it's true they pocketed the money instead of lending. I hate the fact that these guys who caused the problem were bailed out and went right back to record profits and bonuses. But letting the financial system collapse at that scary time was not an option.

      Republicans...think the American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire the Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it. Harry S. Truman

      by fenway49 on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 04:23:34 PM PDT

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      •  I am living that, and have a story to tell (0+ / 0-)

        someday, about a bank, a mortgage, a bank accepting tarp money and not using it as it was intended.

        Women are 51% of the population yet are represented in congress by barely 17%! Until our representation reflects the population, we risk sliding backwards .....

        by 51percent on Thu Mar 28, 2013 at 07:00:09 PM PDT

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