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Meanwhile, the industry group Airlines for America on Friday took the legal step of filing a motion for a stay in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, seeking a 30-day delay in the furloughs and legislation for a long-term preventative measure. President and CEO Nicholas Calio said the agency has greater flexibility to avoid the cuts than it acknowledges. “The math simply does not work, and it is irresponsible to suggest that a 10 percent reduction of air traffic control hours should mean 40 percent fewer flights can arrive on time,” Calio said. “It’s unjust, unnecessary and completely irresponsible.”

Other industry groups backed the suit, including the Air Line Pilots Association, International. “This is a unique situation,” said its president Capt. Lee Moak. “ Our entire aviation system will struggle to maintain normality due to furloughs of these essential workers. The economic viability of our country depends on this mode of transportation; everyone will be affected.”

The groups were joined by the Regional Airline Association, which said in a statement that “the impact on our industry sector, especially our 160 million annual passengers, cannot be overstated.” Regional airlines operate at least a quarter of the flights at each of the 14 airports FAA has identified for high operational delays, it said, “and at four of the eight most impacted airports, regionals fly more than one half the daily flights: Chicago O’Hare (64 percent), Minneapolis-St. Paul (54 percent), New York LaGuardia (52 percent) and Newark Liberty (51 percent).”

Naturally, Republicans are blaming the entire mess on President Obama.

This should be Exhibit C in why Democrats should never implement Republican policies. Because Republican policies suck. They're awful. But they would never implement them or run on them because they would be terribly unpopular and they would lose. So what they do is convince Democrats to do their work for them and then blame Democrats for policies they've been calling for. They do this time and time again.

Exhibit A: ObamaCare was designed by the Heritage Foundation and first put into practice by the GOP nominee for president. When Obama adopts their plan and does the exact same thing, they run against their own plan and win a landslide election in 2010. The damn thing is still unpopular and we're about to get into the rough bit in 2014.

Exhibit B: President Obama made $760 Billion in cuts in Medicare, cuts recommended by GOP think tanks. Republicans voted for budget that included those very same cuts. Then the GOP turned right around and hammered the President for cutting Medicare by $760 Billion.

Exhibit C: Republicans demand across the board spending cuts in the sequester. Then the sequester happens. Now they are blaming President Obama for those very spending cuts.  

So what do you think would happen if the President cut Social Security? Exactly.

If Republicans want to implement their policies, let them run on them and win elections. But Democrats should never do their dirty work for them. The results speak for themselves.

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  •  I T&R for the news portion. (0+ / 0-)

    Not the extra commentary.  I don't know why these groups think that they have the right to usurp Congress, but good luck with that...

  •  Thank you Airline Industry for clarifying (2+ / 0-)
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    RichM, Angie in WA State

    who the good guys are to the US public by pitting yourselves against them.

    •  See my comment below... (2+ / 0-)
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      a2nite, Angie in WA State

      That CEO should be fired. He has no idea how to run a just in time system.  Either that or he is just playing politics.  I have sympathy for the Pilots Association, however.

      'Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost' - Ronald Reagan, Communist

      by RichM on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 03:33:52 PM PDT

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      •  He should be fired for frivolous use of lawyers (0+ / 0-)

        I can't see how this suit gets a hearing. He is CEO of a lobbying group, they have no standing. An actual airline MIGHT have standing, but the questions they want to litigate can't be.

        Congress has sole authority to appropriate funds. Government agencies MUST live within those appropriated budgets (actually they must spend exactly what Congress appropriates!).
        How the federal government spends its funds is up to the Executive, within any limits set in the appropriation (like you must cut current expenditures by 10%).

         

  •  Who'd a thunk!! (2+ / 0-)
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    PJEvans, sfbob

    When big business gets bit in the butt by sequester they squeal like piggys.  Do you think they just now figured it out?

    Sequester is a disaster for the economy.  
    Republicans will let it ruin the recovery before they do anything about it.

    My Brothers Keeper

    by Reetz on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 02:49:50 PM PDT

  •  the faa (7+ / 0-)

    is a federal subsidy for the airline industry. since we all know that private industry runs things better than government does, let the industry pay for and run the faa.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 02:51:24 PM PDT

    •  Yep. And we should let the fertilizer companies (1+ / 0-)
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      run OSHA, and the oil companies run the EPA, too.

      "We refuse to fight in a war started by men who refused to fight in a war." -freewayblogger

      by Bisbonian on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 04:02:06 PM PDT

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      •  those are regulatory agencies (0+ / 0-)

        the faa does plenty more.

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 04:15:51 PM PDT

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        •  Such as? (0+ / 0-)

          As an airline pilot, I would say that air traffic controllers are part of the regulatory system.

          "We refuse to fight in a war started by men who refused to fight in a war." -freewayblogger

          by Bisbonian on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 04:35:11 PM PDT

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          •  regulatory (0+ / 0-)

            would be ensuring they do their jobs. they're no more regulatory than are ski patrol.

            The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

            by Laurence Lewis on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 04:54:14 PM PDT

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            •  No more regulatory than the ski patrol? (0+ / 0-)

              Have you sat in the cockpit of an airliner for a day?  Imagine the ski patrol standing at the bottom of the lift, getting to in line...no you first, then you, then you.  Imagine the ski patrol mixing in skiers of differing abilities, so that you didn't have a whole group of them going in the same direction at the same speed all at once.  Then imagine the ski patrol with radar guns, and telling faster skiers to slow down, because they were getting too close to ones ahead, and slower skiers to speed up, or get out of the way...off to the side of the run.  

              Imagine the ski patrol issuing citations for skiing too fast near the lodge, with fines attached.  Or fines for not following their instructions on the slopes.  Imagine them telling each skiier to turn left, now right, now left, now right.  And then saying, no too many skiiers on this run...you there, you have to take a different run, down the long way to the lodge.

              That is something like how they compare to the ski patrol...

              "We refuse to fight in a war started by men who refused to fight in a war." -freewayblogger

              by Bisbonian on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:02:23 PM PDT

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              •  different levels (0+ / 0-)

                same dynamic. both in service of private enterprise.

                The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                by Laurence Lewis on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:06:56 PM PDT

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                •  I'm disappointed, Laurence. (0+ / 0-)

                  I've been reccing your diaries and comments right and left the last couple of weeks...you seem to be hitting them out of the park.  Swing and a miss on this one, though.

                  "We refuse to fight in a war started by men who refused to fight in a war." -freewayblogger

                  by Bisbonian on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:12:37 PM PDT

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                  •  i think your argument (0+ / 0-)

                    ultimately comes down to the importance of the airline industry. which to me is an argument for socializing it. but as a general rule, i believe industries should bear the costs of their own management and operation.

                    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                    by Laurence Lewis on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:15:57 PM PDT

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                    •  Management is things like deciding what airplanes (0+ / 0-)

                      To buy, which cities to serve, how much to charge for peanuts, and what color to paint the planes, how many employees you need...etc.  Airlines have people for that.  Operation includes making sure the aircraft are ready for flight, fuel is on hand, spare tires, etc, crews are scheduled to fly them, get adequate rest to comply with regulations, planes are cleaned and fueled and scheduled for maintenance on time.  Airlines hire people for that.

                      Regulators make sure that in doing all that, they don't hurt the general public, or each other, in the process.  Best that is a separate organization.

                      "We refuse to fight in a war started by men who refused to fight in a war." -freewayblogger

                      by Bisbonian on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:24:25 PM PDT

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                •  Any regulatory agency has to jot only write (0+ / 0-)

                  the regulations...they need inspectors and enforcers.  The FAA has people whose primary function is one or the other, but Air Traffic Control also acts to some extent in both of those capacities.  Yes, they facilitate some of the things the airline needs to do, as far as infrastructure.  But they also severely limit the airlines plans, with slot controls, flow controls, metering programs, and closing off airspace or airports when they feel it is necessary.

                  Forget the ski patrol...try driving to the store to get some milk with a police officer sitting in your back seat, telling you what route to take, how fast to go, which way to turn, when to slow down, and where to park...pointing out pedestrians along the way, and puddles.  And then come back and tell me how regulatory that was.

                  "We refuse to fight in a war started by men who refused to fight in a war." -freewayblogger

                  by Bisbonian on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 05:19:55 PM PDT

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          •  They meter out the airplanes, keeping them a (1+ / 0-)
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            safe distance apart...much as one ought to do with ammonium nitrate, I suppose.  From my perspctive, they often get into micro-managing, and un-neccessarily cut into efficiency...they are very involved regulators.  Better by far than not being involved enough, though.  If they were removed from the equation, the airlines would have a quick race to the bottom to cut corners...just look what they have done with passenger service...and the end result would be very ugly indeed.

            "We refuse to fight in a war started by men who refused to fight in a war." -freewayblogger

            by Bisbonian on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 04:55:21 PM PDT

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    •  You can't reason w/reactionaries, only defeat them (0+ / 0-)

      The reactionaries will never admit anything that doesn't reinforce their worldview.

      You can't reason with them, by definition.
      They don't reason; they only (and merely) react.

      So the only way to remove their influence
      is to defeat them,
      soundly, roundly,
      so they know in their bones they are defeated.

      Then they capitulate and don't return in the same guise.

      The civil rights and gay rights movements show us the positive end result, after years, and centuries, of struggle.

      Victory comes.
      Ever toward victory, indeed...

      Venceremos!

      Venceremos! (We shall overcome!)

      by Redfire on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 07:55:57 PM PDT

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  •  Airline lawyers (2+ / 0-)
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    RichM, a2nite

    and CEOS must really suck at anticipating implications of legislation that happened quite awhile ago.  The FAA is following the sequestration.  Admin law 101 -- lots of discretion at the Agency level.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 02:51:30 PM PDT

  •  Point them at (1+ / 0-)
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    snoopydawg

    those who voted for the sequester. With the suggestion that it would be a really good idea to not support them at the next election, since they're not doing the jobs they're supposed to have been elected for.

    (Is it time for the pitchforks and torches yet?)

    by PJEvans on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 02:52:36 PM PDT

  •  Just one problem. (1+ / 0-)
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    a2nite

    There haven't been any unusual delays today.
    http://www.fly.faa.gov/...

    "Work for something because it is good, not just because it stands a chance to succeed." -- Vaclav Havel

    by greendem on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 02:57:25 PM PDT

  •  Still think there's a 50-50 chance (0+ / 0-)

    the ACA implodes next year.  No other nation in the world has ever made that kind of Rube Goldberg setup actually work.

  •  Well... (4+ / 0-)
    “The math simply does not work, and it is irresponsible to suggest that a 10 percent reduction of air traffic control hours should mean 40 percent fewer flights can arrive on time,” Calio said. “It’s unjust, unnecessary and completely irresponsible.”
    This man is CEO of a large corporation and he doesn't understand ECONOMIES OF SCALE?  10% inefficiencies can often have dire consequences in any 'just in time' delivery system - and the airlines are a prime example of a system that relies on precise scheduling.  Several flights in a hub can affect the whole flight system.  He should know this.  A snow storm in Chicago may effect 10% of the total traffic at any given time, but may will back up the entire flight system.  The Board of Directors should fire this guy.  I'm sure he is just playing politics and has contributed a boat load of personal cash to the GOP.

    'Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost' - Ronald Reagan, Communist

    by RichM on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 03:32:34 PM PDT

  •  Frivolous lawsuit (0+ / 0-)

    More a PR move by the Airline industry than anything else.

    "If you tell the truth, you'll eventually be found out." Mark Twain

    by Steven D on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 04:33:56 PM PDT

    •  i disagree (0+ / 0-)

      People are late getting to where they are flying to.
      I saw a story today that a flight was over 2 hrs late.
      One plane.
      Mitiply that for each flight.

      Gitmo is a Concentration Camp. Not a Detention Center. Torture happens at Concentration Camps. Torture happens at Gitmo. How much further will US values fall? Where is YOUR outrage at what the United States does in OUR names?

      by snoopydawg on Mon Apr 22, 2013 at 11:44:52 PM PDT

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