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-- and let them know that they're WRONG, dead wrong.

Yesterday, kos published a diary in which a Democratic pollster says that he "feels" that most voters actually want to cut entitlements. You know, 'cuz we're all so concerned about the deficit and all. Yeah, when there's not enough money to put food on the table or a roof over your head, the deficit is absolutely THE first thing that people think of when they get up each morning. The only "deficit" that millions of unemployed Americans care about is the jobs deficit, not how many more trillions of dollars will be siphoned off of taxpayers and donated -- yet again -- to predatory banksters to pay off their gambling debts.

Well, maybe it's time to give Pete "Deep Thoughts" Brodnitz some ...  personal ... data points that he can reflect upon. Something that will help him when he sees yet another poll showing that Americans want our entitlements left alone - and yet he somehow "gleans" the exact opposite. Maybe if he hears from enough actual Americans, he'll finally be able to "discern" what we mean when we say "keep your greedy mitts off of Social Security".

Here's his contact information, conveniently provided on the "what we do" page of the clueless "strategy group" providing "stratergery" about What Voters Want to our so-called "leaders":

Pete Brodnitz
pbrodnitz@bsgco.com
202.688.1803
Better yet, why not take a moment to let the other principals know how we actual voters "feel":
Mitch Markel
mmarkel@bsgco.com
212.823.0784

Daniel Franklin
dfranklin@bsgco.com
212.823.0783

Amy Levin
alevin@bsgco.com
310.935.3056

More from their "what we do" page: they

dig deeply into an audience’s underlying attitudes and emotions
Funny how all that "digging" leads them to believe the exact opposite of what voters actually want.
Pushing past traditional approaches and tired questions, we thoroughly examine customer opinions and values to understand what truly drives decision-making.
Having thoroughly "examined" the foot up their a**, what a shock that they consistently "misunderestimate" what poll after poll after poll show that Americans actually believe.

And finally, their

"Values-Driven Competitive FrameworkingSM approach" ... that allows them to "identify values that trump all others"
-- and yet they completely miss the ONE "value that trumps all others" -- that Democrats, independents and Republicans alike don't want Social Security to be cut.

Originally posted to bushbuster on Wed May 01, 2013 at 02:48 PM PDT.

Also republished by Social Security Defenders.

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  •  Tip Jar (10+ / 0-)

    You know how I can tell that corporations and the rich can pay higher taxes? Because they can afford to buy politicians ... MinistryOfTruth

    by bushbuster on Wed May 01, 2013 at 02:48:13 PM PDT

  •  go get 'em. Well said. Idiots abound, and get paid (3+ / 0-)
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    bushbuster, PatriciaVa, aliasalias

    Fear is the mind-killer - Frank Herbert, Dune

    by p gorden lippy on Wed May 01, 2013 at 03:02:12 PM PDT

  •  The real question is, (0+ / 0-)

    would you accept a very small cut in Social Security benefits in order to get rich people and corporations to pay more taxes and have the minimum wage rise to above $9 an hour? That was the proposed trade, in essence. Reject the trade if you wish, but at least acknowledge that it was a (proposed) trade, not a giveaway.

    •  Actually, the better question is, would (10+ / 0-)

      millionaires accept a very small increase in their top marginal rate -- say to only 50% like under Kennedy instead of the 91% under Eisenhower -- in order to strengthen a program that the majority of Americans will use? Or how about will hedge fund managers accept their wages being taxed as regular income instead of capital gains, so that we can strengthen our country's infrastructure and make sure that bridges don't fall down and sink holes swallow up whole streets? Or how about that banksters accept a ridiculously small financial transactions tax so that we can have -- oh, I don't know -- maybe cancer treatments for the elderly or food stamps and Head Start? How come all of those are off the table, but gutting benefits just HAS to be part of the "grand bargain?"

      You know how I can tell that corporations and the rich can pay higher taxes? Because they can afford to buy politicians ... MinistryOfTruth

      by bushbuster on Wed May 01, 2013 at 03:35:39 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  It's beyond a higher marginal tax on income, (3+ / 0-)
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        bushbuster, JerryNA, musiccitymollie

        bushbuster.

        Doc2, I would propose that the administration put a graduated wealth tax on the table.

        Starting at 1% for households with net wealth of at least 50M, to 8%, annually, for the likes of Ellison and Buffet.

        Once the national wealth tax has begun to significantly improve the United States' gini coefficient (a measurement of inequality), then we can discuss chained-cpi.

        Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project. www.hamiltonproject.org

        by PatriciaVa on Wed May 01, 2013 at 03:45:55 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Great idea, definitely deserving of a (2+ / 0-)
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          PatriciaVa, musiccitymollie

          diary all its own! It would be great if you could post this a new diary so that more people could hear about it. This is the first time I've seen it proposed.

          You know how I can tell that corporations and the rich can pay higher taxes? Because they can afford to buy politicians ... MinistryOfTruth

          by bushbuster on Wed May 01, 2013 at 03:51:05 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

        •  Great idea, definitely deserving of a diary all (1+ / 0-)
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          PatriciaVa

          its own! It would be great if you could write up a new diary so that more people hear about this. This is the first time that I've seen it proposed.

          You know how I can tell that corporations and the rich can pay higher taxes? Because they can afford to buy politicians ... MinistryOfTruth

          by bushbuster on Wed May 01, 2013 at 03:55:06 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

      •  There is no answer to why not some other, (0+ / 0-)

        better plan other than that we live in a democracy. Enough of your fellow voters don't see it as you do. So you've got to give them things you don't like if you want them to give you things you like (such as a higher minimum wage). Either figure out a way to rid the ranks of Congress of these type of people, or negotiate with the ones we've got, or don't negotiate at all and get nothing done. Those are the 3 options.

        •  plus ... influence the gatekeepers, (1+ / 0-)
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          PatriciaVa

          which includes "Democratic" pollsters who keep getting these "feelings" that are completely against what the overwhelming majority of Americans want. Hence, maybe it's time to take the fight to all of the "consultants" who say they speak for us, but don't.

          You know how I can tell that corporations and the rich can pay higher taxes? Because they can afford to buy politicians ... MinistryOfTruth

          by bushbuster on Wed May 01, 2013 at 04:15:33 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

    •  Hmmm....I think a better plan would be to (5+ / 0-)

      have rich people and corporations pay more taxes so I get MORE Social Security benefits.  Why do I care if they pay more taxes if I get LESS Social Security?  

      •  yes! That's a horrible trade! (2+ / 0-)
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        JerryNA, musiccitymollie

        would I take a little less Social Security so that bankers and munitions makers could get more money?

        Because, if we get cuts to social programs then where is that extra tax money (from rich people) going to go? Not to us....so where?

        •  The 'savings' [cuts] to Social Security and (2+ / 0-)
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          bushbuster, hoplite9

          Medicare will go to fund Pete Peterson's 'Dream List.'

          From Peterson's website:

          Q&A With Pete Peterson, Chairman of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation

          . . . I want to do all I can to make sure that my own grandchildren and future generations of Americans benefit from a growing economy that provides abundant opportunities for success. This will require investments in areas such as education, research and development, and infrastructure that give rise to innovation and new jobs.

          We also need to maintain a strong social safety net for those who need it, including Social Security and Medicare. . . .

          Ooops!  Sounds just like the Administration's 'wish list,' LOL!

          Simply put:  The savings from the collective cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are likely going to finance Peterson's and the Administration's 'giveaway' to private industry and their pet projects, as stated above.

          IOW, what we're getting ready to witness is a transfer from seniors' [mandatory spending] to non-mandatory spending to finance everything from pre-school to the 'seed' for the pubic-private infrastructure bank.

          [BTW, I'm in favor of seeing our tax money going to repair and rebuild roads, just not through more 'public-private' partnerships, which will result in decades of American taxpayers being stuck with paying for 'toll roads.']

          I say--let's stick with the 'Eisenhower model.'  ;-)

          Mollie

          "Only he who can see the invisible, can do the impossible."-- Frank L. Gaines


          hiddennplainsight

          by musiccitymollie on Wed May 01, 2013 at 10:10:36 PM PDT

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          •  yep, public-private partnership, aka steal from (0+ / 0-)

            the public solely to enrich private coffers

            You know how I can tell that corporations and the rich can pay higher taxes? Because they can afford to buy politicians ... MinistryOfTruth

            by bushbuster on Wed May 01, 2013 at 10:55:32 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

  •  US 10-year debt yields 1.64% today (7+ / 0-)

    Close to all-time lows.

    The bond market doesn't believe that the US has a deficit or debt problem.

    Why do so many Dems disagree with the financial markets?

    Learn about Centrist Economics, learn about Robert Rubin's Hamilton Project. www.hamiltonproject.org

    by PatriciaVa on Wed May 01, 2013 at 03:32:46 PM PDT

  •  Reach out and touch? (2+ / 0-)
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    bushbuster, Bob B

    I think it's time to take them into the corner and slap the crap out of them.  

  •  Thanks for the contact info. I had hoped somebody (2+ / 0-)
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    bushbuster, musiccitymollie

    would look it up!

  •  Dem pollsters strategy is manufacturing consent (4+ / 0-)

    not gaining accurate information. It's a propaganda technique known as the Bandwagon. The Dems will attempt to entice more people to agree with Chained CPI because "everyone" thinks it's a good idea.

    Any congress person who votes for chained CPI should know up front they will face a primary challenge.

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