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In my diary about the virtual media blackout of the Supreme KKKourt's VRA ruling, I came to a painful realization that it wasn't just the major media.  I started counting the front page, Community Spotlight, Rec List, and Recent diaries having to do with any particular issue, and have had to come to the painful conclusion that even this bastion of liberal Democratic activism doesn't seem to take a major assault on the voting rights of tens of millions of Americans particularly seriously.  There has has been coverage, but it's been spotty and peppered with naysaying and pooh-poohing in comments.  As of about 9 am Pacific time, and including the entire presently visible FP, this is a snapshot of the priorities of Daily Kos.  

Diaries present on the Rec List and/or Community Spotlight at the same time as the Recent Diary list may be multiple-counted, but that's legitimate since they're being emphasized over others:

Misc.: 27
Texas abortion battle: 20
Gay rights: 19
NSA/Snowden/intel: 16
Worker rights/Employment: 8
VRA: 7
Climate: 6
Healthcare/Social programs: 3
Immigraton: 3
Military: 2
Education: 1
Racial profiling: 1
Zimmerman case: 1

In other words, VRA isn't even in the top 5, and is barely more than a third as represented as the largest single issue.  Granted, this is just a snapshot, not a statistical sampling.  But it fits with my observations since the VRA issue began, and the subject isn't likely to increase in attention as time goes on - especially given the media's obvious desire that the issue should go away.  Like it or not, a lot of what goes on here reflects the priorities of the MSM, so we tend to rapidly lose sight of issues that aren't being given attention by major media sources.

VRA isn't the elephant in the room - it's the fucking planet in the room.  We would do well not to fall asleep under the same old lullaby that's always sung after Supreme Court coups like this.

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  •  An Important Observation (41+ / 0-)

    And consistent with an idea included in the diary I am writing for Sunday's front page, about the VRA and its predecessor, Parents Involved v. Seattle School Dist., which put a stake through the heart of Brown v. Board of Education to what can only be described as muted dismay several years ago: the interest convergence principle and how it relates to the legal fights for African-American rights especially since the Roberts Court began "unwinding the Warren Court."

    So thank you for it.  You won't win many friends, but it needed to be said.

    •  The VRA SCOTUS decision is a massive travesty... (13+ / 0-)

      ...and the assault against voting rights, in general, is one of a handful of massive travesties that have been occurring simultaneously throughout our society, as we blog.

      Frankly, to claim there's oppression regarding publishing any story in this community--something I used to ponder in my head, quite a bit, IMHO--runs against the reality that ALL folks that want to focus upon this story should do so and start writiing, continuously about it! And, with great haste, IMHO.

      I would further argue that I find there's a double-standard here--and it runs across-the-board--when I write about my "favorite topics," the economy/income inequality and the surveillance state.

      Our country's twisted economic realities hurt minorities more than any other population segment. And, the rise of the surveillance state is oppressing Muslims and virtually all forms of protest against virtually ALL ISSUES, tremendously.

      (You want to see OPPRESSION to the max: let's sit by and let the Trans Pacific Partnership trade agreement get rushed through Capitol Hill; you'll see Guinness Book of World Records set as far as opporession's concerned, here and around the globe! Yet, because the President supports it, speaking up about it is, somehow, "Obama-hate"??? Go figure?)

      The massive backstepping on the VRA is a huge, huge issue. Nothing is preventing anyone from writing about it. I rec'd multiple posts, from just the other day, when the story of the SCOTUS decision was first breaking. I'd like to rec many more. I'm not an expert on the subject; I focus on other issues. Yet, I receive unrelenting abuse from the very people that decry a lack of focus upon minority oppression, as they attempt to attach comments from others made in my posts as if they were my own sentiments.

      The time for being polite about these many converging emergencies is long-past, IMHO.

      Perhaps this diarist should stop focusing upon publishing condescending posts about folks that focus upon massive economic injustice and the rise of the totalitarian/surveillance state, and spend more of their time writing about significant issues, such as the VRA, upon which they bemoan a lack of focus now? I'd gladly rec those pieces up!

      So, no, after reading this diarist making casual comments and bemoaning "the fact" how they think their own posts are being suppressed within the community--an ongoing theme I've noticed from this diarist, in general--my advice would be for them to focus upon their primary issues of concern, other than deriding and bemoaning others for "inconveniently" focusing upon issues which maintain a STRONGLY MATERIAL impact upon the oppression of minorities in this country, too, as this diarist twists reports about those subjects in their name-calling screeds about "Obama-hate."

      There's a common theme regarding OPPRESSION which resonates far and wide, throughout this community and the Democratic Party. It's not about politely selecting topics that are out of favor with one sub-group or another.

      And, IMHO, when it comes to the actions of the SCOTUS, and their efforts to turn back the clock on society, in general, I'll be right there rec'ing up their posts, too.

      Just sayin'...

      "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

      by bobswern on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:01:34 AM PDT

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      •  My Comment (7+ / 0-)

        Was written before all the ones by the diarist you reference.  If he claims his writing is being suppressed, you are correct that this is a falsehood.  However, I read this diary as correctly pointing out that the majority of Kossacks could care less about Black folks' rights unless something they want (our votes, our loyalty) is directly involved.  And that's true, as his data shows and my 8 years here confirms.  

        The fact that you write about important economic issues is something that, as you know, I respect deeply about your work.  I do the same from time to time, as you also know--including about how they impact African Americans.  But to contend that those are MORE important, as you seem to do, than the rights that my own relatives DIED for when it comes to voting, education and the like? That's just ahistorical.

        You know I say this to you with much love.

        •  If there is significantly increased oppression... (0+ / 0-)

          ...of all forms of protest within a society, it undercuts efforts regarding (activism for) change (and, simply maintain basic progress) that benefit those that need it most.

          I don't think what I'm focused upon is "more important," it's just my focus, because technology, propaganda, state oppression, and financial services (and inherent and demonstrated bigotry/racism) have been the focus of my career. Political matters relating to bigotry/racism have also been a focus throughout my life, actually, since I was 10 years old (another story for another time).

          Let's just say--without getting into details in a comment in a blog--that I've been a bit "better-schooled" than most U.S. caucasians on the subjects of racism and bigotry in U.S. society, both at home, socially and via my formal education; and from a pretty young age, too.

          I've also been, literally (at times), a student of American history my entire adult life (interdisciplinary major in 20th Century American Studies in college).

          We all focus upon our "topics," but just so we're clear, I don't do that exclusively. I frequently write and comment on other matters, such as republishing the ongoing work of Henry Giroux--who's constantly writing and speaking about institutionalized racism and the inherent efforts of the status quo to criminalize minority youth in our society; and he has worked with Angela Davis on many projects of the course of his career, too; especially recently--and others and have focused on the issue within this community in many, many other instances on the subject, too.

          I think economic and political/social oppression (by the state) are at the heart/root of most/all of the issues confronting our society. Historically, financial greed reinforced the efforts to enslave African-Americans. And, being a Jew, but also cognizant of the fact that I'm a caucasian and have been afforded the twisted "privileges" in this country that go along with that status, I'm a LOT more aware of bigotry and all too familiar--at a very personal level--with the ingrained racism that is pervasive throughout this country and society, in general.

          So, I wouldn't say that economic and political oppression of African-Americans, and other minorities/socio-demographic groups, is more important than other subject relating to racism and bigotry--and basic HUMAN RIGHTS. I'd say, "They're quite direct and very critical aspects of the entire matter."

          And, as you already know, my love and deep respect for YOU is beyond question, too! :-)

          "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

          by bobswern on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 08:59:57 AM PDT

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          •  P.S.--I placed my initial comment, where I did... (0+ / 0-)

            ...to get the attention of the diarist. It really wasn't meant for you, but I could certainly see how you thought it might be. (Yeah, I know...quite lame, but quite true!)

            "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

            by bobswern on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 09:09:28 AM PDT

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    •  Thanks shanikka for this upcoming news (2+ / 0-)
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      Voting rights should be front page everyday as everything begins and ends with Voting rights.....

      We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

      by Vetwife on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 03:30:29 PM PDT

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  •  It's a big internet, Troubadour (6+ / 0-)

    If you don't like it here, go find yourself another niche.

    When the union's inspiration /Through the workers' blood shall run /There can be no power greater /Anywhere beneath the sun /Solidarity Forever!

    by litho on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:05:08 AM PDT

  •  I am not surprised (11+ / 0-)

    Many people tend to only fight when they actually feel that their rights or the rights of someone they actually know are being infringed upon.

    Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

    by moviemeister76 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:10:40 AM PDT

  •  VRA was getting plenty of attetion on Tuesday but (5+ / 0-)

    was completely overshadowed by gay marriage yesterday

    I find it strange that there is absolutely no discussion of the visa plums for large corporations that will enable them to hire foreigners at lower wages, screwing over Ameirican workers. Seems there's only one view to be had on the immigration bill.

    •  These days... (5+ / 0-)
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      ...I find that I have to get most of my information and conversation away from DKos. With the exception of a few folks here who continue to write very informative points I often don't seen anywhere else, it's become a pretty useless site except at election time.

      Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

      by moviemeister76 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:21:59 AM PDT

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    •  there's been so much happening this week. (11+ / 0-)

      but if there's any two days that have emphasised the importance of the vra, it's the 5-4 decision yesterday,  vs the 5-4 decision tuesday.  one more justice, that's all we need, and we've got to keep that in mind when we indulged in alll this crap about 'lesser of 2 evils' and 'both parties are alike'.

      i was happy for everyone yesterday,, but i'm overwhelmed with grief for what happened tuesday, and the vra decision occupying a far larger portion of my psychic space,even if it isn't occupying enough space on the rec list.

      Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure that you are not, in fact, just surrounding yourself with a-holes - William Gibson. (-9.75 / -9.05)

      by doesnotworkorplaywellwithothers on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:23:54 AM PDT

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  •  End the oppression of "Misc" on top the rec list! (9+ / 0-)

    What do we want?

    Less Miscellany!

    When do we want it?

    NOW!

  •  I would be curious to see the results of (10+ / 0-)

    a statistical sampling.

    Also, a snapshot from Tuesday, where there were many more words expended.

    Should every diary be on the VRA? I already know we're getting a major front page piece this weekend, and I know we'll be getting one tomorrow too. I don't agree with the conclusion you're making, however, that voting rights is not a concern for this site, given the many tens of thousands of words written on the subject over the last two years. But at the same time, the lack of attention is a major function of the site's demographics--very, very white-- which hasn't changed much in the almost-decade I've been here.

    •  It's not just demographics. (4+ / 0-)

      A major part of our content comes from people commenting on stories and editorials published in the major media, so when the major media shoves a story into the closet and talks about anything but that, the part of our content that comes from them is suddenly no longer concerned with that thing.

      The media couldn't avoid reporting on VRA on Tuesday because it's a Supreme Court case and they had to at least mention it, but now they're talking about just about anything else.  And it isn't just a function of the news cycle either, because they're still talking a lot about Snowden - not just new developments, but editorializing too.   Whereas content of any kind about VRA has been pushed aside on the major media, and here it's very much a second-tier issue.  

      It's taken seriously here, but not proportionally seriously.  It's treated like a technical issue with major long-term implications (like climate change) rather than something of immediate and massive significance.  And this is just two days after the initial ruling, so you know it will slow down even further despite the upcoming content you're referring to.  

      Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

      by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:38:22 AM PDT

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      •  but as Meteor Blades notes downthread (5+ / 0-)

        climate change is the planet in the room. Its unchecked march will possibly mean the extinction of our species by 2300-2500AD if not sooner. And your snapshot indicates it got less attention than VRA did today at noon, EDT.

        I have to ask if this is more in response to the poor showing to your preferred solution, which is impeachment, which would not fix the Voter Rights Act. Section 4 is dead. There are ways to fix it. I think it's time we focus on that.

        I've pointed out I live in a state (Pennsylvania) which no part has ever had any scruitny by the two sections of the VRA gutted this week. We massively pushed back our state's efforts at Voter ID. We're still pushing.

        •  It's certainly a part of it that (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm having to fight uphill to get people to understand how abnormal, arbitrary, and radical this decision was.  But I realize that's to be expected - it's exactly the kind of uphill battle we faced trying to convince people in 2001, 2002, etc. that Bush was an evil psychopath.  People don't want things to be out of the ordinary, and denial is just a fact of life.

          But it's not the core of why I wrote this.  Regardless of what perpsective a diary on the subject is written from, any that brings attention to VRA is good because it promotes the ecosystem of discussion surrounding it.  The more we focus on it, the easier my job is of convincing people how radical and illegal the Supreme Court's decision was.

          As to your specific views on what to do, I would just say that we can both try to impeach these Justices and seek to legislatively fix Section 4.  We don't have to concede the legitimacy of the ruling striking it down to alter the law.  But we have to be clear about something: There will be no legislative solutions worth anything.  The GOP will not allow it.  And trying without simultaneously dismissing the ruling as invalid would mean that we both concede it and fail to fix anything - the worst of all possible worlds on this subject.  

          This is how these judicial coups operate.  They depend on us conceding their legitimacy and treating them as actual law when they have no real foundation.  Bush v. Gore was not a precedent, it was a crime.  Same with Citizens United.  Same with this case.  They are thoroughly lawless, arbitrary, and must be rejected in the strongest possible terms.

          Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

          by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:37:29 AM PDT

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  •  The VRA (9+ / 0-)

    is simply not a topic that gets the attention of white liberals like Snowden/NSA stuff or gay rights.

    Which--I am thrilled about DOMA, but in the back of my mind I was a little disappointed that it would take some of the thunder out of the odious VRA ruling.

    •  It occurred to me (11+ / 0-)

      that that is why they did it the way they did.

      I am thrilled about DOMA, too, but the VRA is the reason we can elect the progressives to do things like ensure marriage equality.

    •  Precisely. We have to make clear (4+ / 0-)
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      that the votes of white liberals won't matter without the votes of minorities.  And this should be made clear as well: If conservatives end up controlling everything through gerrymandering and voter suppression, they could theoretically pass Constitutional amendments negating the end of DOMA or even going well beyond it.  I don't know how likely that is, but it's worth noting.

      Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

      by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:41:39 AM PDT

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    •  Stereotyping much? (2+ / 0-)
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      Really, the generalization in that statement is a bit noxious in that it assumes that all white liberals are of like mind in our priorities.

      What I do suspect is that there is some regionalization in the concern over this issue -- folks in states like California may be less intense in their interest on the VRA decision versus folks in states like Texas simply because the impact is more distant.  That's human nature in action.  And I'll note that the folks pushing one of those "white liberal" issues -- climate change -- have posted more than one diary complaining about the lack of interest that their favorite issue has been getting here, as well.

      Then there's the simple fact that the latest news can often times push out older stories...and, to some degree, that is exactly what has happened with the DOMA decision coming the day after the VRA issue.  

      So I really do think that the dynamics of what makes the front page and rec lists here is far more complex than "white liberals don't care."

      Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

      by TexasTom on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:17:46 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, it is human nature (5+ / 0-)

        for whites to care less about voting rights compared to other topics because the concept is distant to them.  After all, they generally don't have to worry about arbitrary restrictions on voting hours or traveling longer distances to their polling places or living in overpopulated precincts.

        For white liberals in particular, this issue ought to be given a great deal of attention, because without fair voting practices there is less opportunity to to tackle other liberal agenda issues like climate change and gay rights.

        And no, I didn't say that white liberals "don't care," or that white liberals are some kind of monolithic entity (this coming from a white liberal), this just isn't an issue that piques outrage quite like other topics, and especially compared to the reactions of people of color.

  •  FFS... (47+ / 0-)

    On Tuesday and Wednesday, eight of the top 30 recommended diaries were on the Voting Rights Act decision.

    On Tuesday, the day the Supreme Court ruled on the VRA:

    Of the top 15 diaries on the recommended list, there were:

    1. Democrats and Republicans Are The Same, Huh?: Voting Rights Act Decision SLAPS That in the Face by Ian Reifowitz

    2. Radical extremist Roberts 5 strikes down Voting Rights Act by Armando

    5. The Supreme Court Revives Jim Crow; Updates with President Obama's and John Lewis' Statements by TomP   

    6. The Voting Rights Act has been gutted by Adam B

    13, Why voting rights are under assault by kos

    The other 10 top diaries:

    Anti-abortion pregnancy center lies caught on tape by Laura Clawson

    It's like debating Auschwitz by Tool

    #StandWithWendy Davis during Final 2 Hours of her Epic Filibuster of #SB5 nomandates

    Strong speech from President on Climate:US will lead UPDATE:Obama to request XL pipeline be rejected by beach babe in fl

    Epic 13-hr Filibuster of #SB5 by TX Sen. Wendy Davis (D): Fewer than 3 hours remaining! by nomandates

    Live from Texas Abortion Filbuster blueisland

    Surprise! The Weather Channel is the only major network that covered Obama's speech by weatherdude

    On Wednesday:

    2. The VRA Decision may be the worst Thing Ever - For Conservatives by Vyan

    5. Slip Sliding Away by One Pissed Off Liberal

    10. The gutted portion of the Voting Rights Act affected the American Indian vote by Meteor Blades

    This doesn't include the FP pieces on the subject for those two days. VRA has not been forgotten. But there has been other very important news in the past week.

    And by the way, as someone who was beaten by cops five times and arrested 11 in the civil rights struggle in 1964 and 1965 alone, let me say that the VRA is definitely very important, but climate change is the planet in the room. That is the real hole in everybody's coverage.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:30:45 AM PDT

    •  damn, well rebutted. (9+ / 0-)

      kinda dampened my flame on this one lol

      This comment is dedicated to my mellow Adept2U and his Uncle Marcus

      by mallyroyal on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:42:46 AM PDT

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    •  Thanks for the informative rebuttal, but... (2+ / 0-)
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      While I saw most of those and commented in quite a few, you're still talking about a handful amid large numbers.  Also, you may be misinterpreting what I'm saying as some kind of insult against the people who are focused on it when I'm simply talking about overall priorities and frequencies.  

      Yes, climate change is a higher priority, but we can't do anything about it if we aren't allowed to elect governments that will do so.  Moreover, it seems to me like VRA is (generally speaking) being seen in the same way as climate change - as a long-term technical issue rather than something of profound and immediate personal and political significance.

      Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

      by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:49:08 AM PDT

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      •  27% of the top 30 Recommended diaries... (20+ / 0-)

        ...is not a handful.

        Yes, the VRA is a profound issue and the impact of the decision, announced two days ago, needs to be addressed as quickly as possible.

        But we need to pay attention to our victories as much as our defeats. Winning on DOMA, a major civil rights issue, deserves the cheering attention it is getting. But that fight is not yet over. As one (optimistic activist) said yesterday, marriage equality will be the law of the land in five years. Getting there will not be without bumps, so it's reasonable to focus attention on that as well.

        And since dealing with climate change (which is a political issue as well as a technical one) will take far longer , and we just heard the president speak about it directly in the first speech he devoted exclusively to that subject. Climate change demands thorough, consistent and constant attention, too.

        Turning Texas purple and then blue is a big deal, as well, since it was one of the states covered by Section 4 gutted by the Supreme Court. Having a fighting Dem like Wendy Davis to get behind, and cheering her powerful pushback against assholes in the legislature there, is also worthy of our attention.

        Nobody I know is forgetting about the VRA. However, developing a strategy for dealing with it can't be done in an afternoon. We've got a Sunday diary from one of the smartest people on this site coming up. Perhaps seeing what she has to say about how we should approach this would be a good idea.

        Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

        by Meteor Blades on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:02:22 AM PDT

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        •  I was referring to the total number of diaries. (1+ / 0-)
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          But we need to pay attention to our victories as much as our defeats.
          I don't think we're doing so.  I think we're endlessly expounding on a limited victory while only periodically addressing a thrust directly into the heart of American democracy that will negate all other issues if allowed to succeed and be elaborated with further abuses.
          However, developing a strategy for dealing with it can't be done in an afternoon. We've got a Sunday diary from one of the smartest people on this site coming up. Perhaps seeing what she has to say about how we should approach this would be a good idea.
          Agreed.  I just think we need to sink our teeth into the issue and not let go, no matter how many immediate battles and shiny objects interpose themselves in the meantime between major events.

          Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

          by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:41:40 AM PDT

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          •  Well I can only speak to Community Spotlight (5+ / 0-)

            We can only rescue what is written and since we don't rescue anything on the recommended list, all of the ones MB so aptly mentioned were either FP or on the recommended list.

            If you want to see more on VRA please I urge you and others here to write it. In my opinion there is nothing more important to me than voting rights for all and climate change. That's speaking for me not CS. I also have an obligation as a dkos member to write about it. So I will!

            In our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart until, in our own despair, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God ~RFK

            by vcmvo2 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 12:38:21 PM PDT

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    •  I would actually argue... (5+ / 0-)

      ...that the front page diarists have been pretty damn on top of VRA. Same thing with a few who aren't front page diarists but still quite good.

      I think where I see the real difference is in the number of overall diaries. Sure, the recommended diaries have shown good intersectionality. But when it comes to the rest of the diaries which never make it to the recommended list, which is almost all of them, there is a massive gap in what gets talked about.

      So, if you only come to DKos 20-30 minutes a day just to read the recommended diaries, you would think this is a pretty damn good site with no real issues. But if you come here quite often throughout the day and peruse nearly every single diary, you get a completely different view of what DKos represents.

      Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

      by moviemeister76 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:54:09 AM PDT

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    •  Thanks MB (2+ / 0-)
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      As much as I have always enjoyed your work and like your response regarding planet in the room...

      IMHO, we have less chance of moving climate change policy and many other policies if citizens can't take control of government away from corporations.  There are a number of "process issues" or cornerstones that if we could win back would help.  Overturning citizens united and strengthening the VRA aren't just ends in themselves but also means to moving on other planets in the room.

      With DK as a political blog and with voting being so fundamental to any true democracy, I would think VRA would rival the importance of almost any issue.

      But at the same time I understand that DK is not designed to be a platform for organizing.  It is fed largely by news and responds to news cycles.  Long term priorities or organizing are not something DK does.

      I understand some of Troub's frustration, but every avenue of communication has limitations and DK is no exception.  On a day when I was desperate to try to get more attention to both a labor issue and death penalty issue, there were 2 pootie diaries on the rec list.  lol.

      I don't know what to do about all this, but try to accept DK as it is.

      I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

      by Satya1 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:16:23 AM PDT

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      •  Markos himself has many, many times... (4+ / 0-)
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        ...stressed that our fight is over the long haul. Today's push for Wendy Davis has a very limited chance of putting her in the governor's chair, for instance. But it is one of many things we are trying to do to turn that state purple (as a first step). And it's being organized here.

        But there are many in the site's staff and administrators who would love to hear specific ideas about how to make the platform work better for organizing. Since a remodeling job is under way as we speak (and has a long time to go), now is the time to let us know what would help.

        Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

        by Meteor Blades on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 12:25:56 PM PDT

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        •  thanks (2+ / 0-)
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          But there are many in the site's staff and administrators who would love to hear specific ideas about how to make the platform work better for organizing.
          I've been thinking about this for a couple of years and can put something together within the week.  I'm not sure where to send it but will message it to you and Markos for starters.

          Thanks for all you're doing at DK.

          I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

          by Satya1 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 02:06:08 PM PDT

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      •  If the pootie diaries get people in the room (0+ / 0-)

        or get them to come back every day, then they bring eyeballs to the site and your topics. This is not a zero sum game.

        Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

        by elfling on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 09:43:58 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  And the quality of those VRA (9+ / 0-)

      Diaries was superior. I read 5 or 6 of them. I'm not surprised there weren't more (especially as fast as news has happened this week). These weren't quick blurby diaries.

      Normally, if we see a lot of diaries on an issue, it's because 1. no one diary is complete by itself 2. people have a lot of divergent opinions. That not the case here. 3. People have personal experience they want to discuss. But in those VRA diaries, I saw a number of comments about "my grandmother couldn't vote until..."

      The comments expressed outrage, told personal stories, cursed at Scalia and discussed the intricacies of the Supreme Court decision and how it would affect virtually every state and person of color.

       I'm certainly looking forward to Shanikka's upcoming diary in any case.

      And as for major media, MSNBC had a panel on and was discussing the VRA decision yesterday.

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:42:04 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Climate trumps everything - it's not a topic, it's (3+ / 0-)
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      not an issue. It's a dire situation that we might survive... or not.

      To thine ownself be true

      by Agathena on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:48:50 AM PDT

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    •  FWIW, I count 13 FP posts (3+ / 0-)
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      on the VRA since the decision.

    •  Thanks for This Data, MB (3+ / 0-)
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      I still think the diarist has a point worth giving serious thought to, since the diaries written were written by the "usual suspects".  IN contrast, there was not a single diary by anyone who normally doesn't care about race issues (as reflected in their writing) generally, going by your list.  That does send a message about how much the majority of folks (the 800K or so, I've lost count) really care--whether it's purposeful or otherwise.

      Just IMO and YMMV, as always.  I'll just keep focusing on my piece for Sunday.  

  •  Interesting but I am curious. (10+ / 0-)

    When did you do this non-scientific sample? Was it the day that the vra was gutted or the day that two more major decisions came down.

    These kinds of diaries are fairly dishonest. Unless you take a whole week or month to survey what is being discussed you get a very skewed sample. Of all of the websites I visit this one has the most varied issue coverage.

    Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

    by Mike S on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:31:41 AM PDT

    •  Content-driven analysis is always victimized by (2+ / 0-)
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      the news cycle, if one is not cautious and aware.

      Righteousness is a wide path. Self-righteousness is a bullhorn and a blindfold.

      by Murphoney on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:39:19 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  I pretty clearly acknowledged the limitations (0+ / 0-)

      of what I was presenting, and what time it was from:

      As of about 9 am Pacific time, and including the entire presently visible FP, this is a snapshot of the priorities of Daily Kos.  

      [...]

      Granted, this is just a snapshot, not a statistical sampling.  But it fits with my observations since the VRA issue began, and the subject isn't likely to increase in attention as time goes on - especially given the media's obvious desire that the issue should go away.

      I'm not sure how you could miss that.  It's not exactly a long diary.

      Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

      by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:51:53 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  So your "evidence" that dKos doesn't care (4+ / 0-)
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        about the vra is that immediately after two major decisions were released and a major battle in the war on women was won by our side the "snap shot" of dKos showed those two issues had a lot of discussion going on.

        I have been on dKos since the earliest days when movable type was the platform. I have had issues with certain things here all along. But to claim that a "snapshot" of the site taken at the time described is proof of anything is patently dishonest. Others have shown that dishonesty better than I could and yet you continue to double down on it.

        You do yourself a disservice with that.

        Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

        by Mike S on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:45:14 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Claiming that anything short of a rigorously (0+ / 0-)

          statistical sampling means nothing - that's dishonest.  Presenting information as I find it while acknowledging its limitations is honest, and quite useful as a reason to look deeper.

          Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

          by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 12:04:43 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  If you say so. (0+ / 0-)

            I have agreed with you in the past but I will be far more likely to add a discount to whatever you write from here on out.

            Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

            by Mike S on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 01:08:01 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  Then your problem is prejudice. (0+ / 0-)

              Respond to what is said, not who is saying it.

              Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

              by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 01:13:19 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Ummmmm what world do you live in? (0+ / 0-)

                You base your trust in people from past acts in my world. If someone has shown themselves to be dishonest in the past trusting them in the present is a fools errand.

                I fought the swift boaters hard and one reason it was so difficult is because the media treated every one of their claims as true until it was proven false. If they had shown skepticism due to past acts that would not have been a problem.

                Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

                by Mike S on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 01:37:13 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

                •  If I went by your standard (0+ / 0-)

                  then I would have to distrust you in the future for these invalid criticisms.  But that's not how I think.  I will support everything you say that is true and insightful, and nothing you say that isn't.  I'm not a herd animal who just auto-Recs people because of who they are while ignoring good ideas from people I've disagreed with on other subjects.    

                  Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

                  by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 04:02:47 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

                  •  Oh my. (0+ / 0-)

                    The contortions you have gone through to defend this debunked diary were bad enough but that response is priceless. Feel free to distrust me for my perfectly valid criticisms.

                    If you had acknowledged the falsity of your diary as a mistake I'd give you a little credit. Instead you have doubled down to the nth degree and try to act like you are on high ground because you would trust someone even if they have been dishonest.

                    Priceless.

                    Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

                    by Mike S on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 04:31:55 PM PDT

                    [ Parent ]

                    •  You're beyond help. (0+ / 0-)

                      Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

                      by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 04:46:41 PM PDT

                      [ Parent ]

                      •  Priceless! (0+ / 0-)

                        I spent 6 years calling into right wing radio busting them for lies and disinformation. That was a common refrain from them so I am used to people who use projection as a defense.

                        Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

                        by Mike S on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 04:59:40 PM PDT

                        [ Parent ]

      •  9am today? (1+ / 0-)
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        You should have been here Tuesday morning after the decision was handed down.

        You outrage in this place was palpable.

        As for major media, VRA was covered by the news I watch (local, CBC evening news, and Lawrence O'Donnell). I turned on the tv yesterday to catch the Marriage equality decisions news and MSNBC was discussing the VRA decision midday soon after the DOMA and Prop 8 decisions came down.

        It has been covered in depth by the newspapers I read daily: WaPo, LATimes, NYTimes, and several others.

        So I honestly have no idea what you're reading or watching or when. But the "major media" that I'm seeing is covering this decision as a huge deal. They should. It's a huge deal.

        © grover


        So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

        by grover on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:55:06 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Look at the diary I cited at the top. (0+ / 0-)

          I gave stats on today's coverage.  Many major media sources have completely removed all mention of VRA from their homepages.  You have to search for it to find the content.

          Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

          by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 12:06:02 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  The 'Voting Rights Act' tag has been used 71 times (9+ / 0-)

    this week making it the fifth most common. The most common tag in that time period is 'NSA' at 132.

    NSA     132    
    community     128    
    Civil Rights     106    
    Supreme Court     74    
    Voting Rights Act     71
    I don't really see this as a problem.
  •  You categorize "Miscellaneous" as if it's an (3+ / 0-)
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    actual topic of its own?  That's not valid - it merely inflates the value of 'white noise' and artificially bumps concentrations of actual topicality down on your list.

    Without knowing the topics, specifically, lumping employee rights along with all other discussions of employment could very well be overly broad, to boot.

    Moreover, a "VRA" diary search shows at least 55 hits since 6/24/2013

    Righteousness is a wide path. Self-righteousness is a bullhorn and a blindfold.

    by Murphoney on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:35:39 AM PDT

    •  Using those date parameters. (1+ / 0-)
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      But replacing with gay rights, you get nearly twice as many diaries compared to VRA

      The only problem I have with all of this is that it is splitting everything up, which usually ends up making black gay lesbians pretty much invisible. We should be striving for intersectionality.

      Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

      by moviemeister76 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:45:45 AM PDT

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    •  I thought about that, which is why I mention (0+ / 0-)

      that...

      [VRA is] barely more than a third as represented as the largest single issue.
      In other words, it's not just that it's ranked beneath a lot of other things, but that the curve is very steep between that issue and the higher ones even if you ignored Miscellaneous completely.  I mainly include it for the sake of giving a sense of the total numbers of diaries involved in the snapshot.
      Moreover, a "VRA" diary search shows at least 55 hits since 6/24/2013
      Six of those hits were written by me alone.  Excluding my diaries, today there have been 7 diaries with the VRA tag, and only three of them directly concern VRA rather than being a part of a miscellaneous discussion.  We're halfway through the day.

      Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

      by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:12:29 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  So,... (6+ / 0-)

    ...either you and others should be writing more VRA diaries -- the easiest solution -- or those writing diaries about miscellaneous subjects, or abortion legislation battles, or gay rights battles, or surveillance-state issues, or worker rights issues should just stop being so impassioned about their priorities?

    As for the "fucking planet in the room," I note that the climate came in lower than the VRA.  What does that say?

    •  Never mind, I see MB stepped in . . . (2+ / 0-)
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      . . . to articulate this better than I.  Carry on.

    •  We can't fix the climate (0+ / 0-)

      if we're not allowed to elect a government that will do so.

      Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

      by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:15:12 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  So how does attacking this community (2+ / 0-)
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        For what you perceive is indifference help?

        Are we supposed to understand some underlying message here?

        Or is this really simply you railing against what people read?

        I gotta tell you, Troubadour, these meta attacks on part or all of the community are getting tiresome.

        Here's the thing. Most of us read the news. A lot of members watch the news, and quite a lot of it. Some work seriously crappy jobs, take care of sick relatives, or look for work ever single freaking day of their lives.

        Or maybe they can't work for whatever situation and so they're always wondering how they are going afford groceries at the end of the month.

        For a lot of people, coming to dkos is a distraction from the harsh realities of life.

        They can read only so much bad news.

        But no more.

        Another Supreme Court decision? Now they're taking my vote away from me?

        No, I just don't want to know. Not today. I can't only deal with so much bad news.  Or, even though I heard about it on the news and my grandmother couldn't vote until she was 30 or my grandfather couldn't vote until the year I was born, I just can't write about it. It's all too overwhelming.

        It's not about priorities.

        It's about getting through life.

        It's not up to YOU to decide what members' priorities are based on whether they read, much less write, a diary.

        You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk
        Atticus Finch in Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird

        You may want to try it.

        © grover


        So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

        by grover on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 12:20:10 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  How is talking about priorities an "attack"? (0+ / 0-)

          Jesus.  If we can't make constructive criticism without people getting their hackles up and acting all defensive, how can we justifiably criticize people outside this community and demand that they not respond in the same way?  

          Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

          by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 01:05:16 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  If you didn't intend this to be that, (1+ / 0-)
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            I recommend you work on tone in both your diary and comments.

            Perhaps you don't realize how you come across even to those with whom you would be allies in most cases.

            I don't generally disagree with the underlying themes of your diaries -- if the theme of this diary is that we need to ensure that VRA needs to remain a front-burner issue.

            But the tone of these meta diaries is alienating allies.

            I offer that suggestion in good faith. What you do with it is up to you.

            © grover


            So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

            by grover on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 01:56:19 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

      •  We can't rely on government for climate (1+ / 0-)
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        Advocacy is working quite well at local levels. Government considers environmental activists the same as "domestic terrorists."

        To thine ownself be true

        by Agathena on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 12:28:16 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  The problem, Troub, is that the VRA (7+ / 0-)

    correction will take work. It's sensational on that one day of the ruling and will be sensational again two weeks before the elections in 2014 during which we will bitch and moan and cry racism.

    The real work IMO must be helping local Dem parties recruit strong candidates for county supervisors of elections and for Sec. of State. I also think we need to mobilize voters who are "squared away" to connect with a "maybe not so squared away" voter to make sure they ARE squared away before November 2014. This will require on-the-ground collaboration and voter outreach efforts. Not fun.

    If you're interested in working something like this contact me and let's talk. I wouldn't bother expecting too much of a following about this right away. It's not so sexy and will require some work but the reality is the GOP didn't miss a beat after the VRA ruling. They're focused. We must be too. Kosmail me.

  •  Not to mention (0+ / 0-)

    Affirmative Action, which (fortunately) wasn't eviscerated by the Supreme Court.

    29, white male, TX-07 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:46:11 AM PDT

  •  I get a different result (15+ / 0-)

    Just using the tag filter Supreme Court, I find 5 diaries today which mention VRA, 28 diaries yesterday, and 45 stories the day before.  So, on the day the decision was announced, VRA was the number one story.  The next day, it was a prominent story.  Today, it has quieted down, for now, as other stories have arisen.

    That doesn't mean that nobody cares; it means that other stories have arisen.  But did I suddenly forget about VRA; did anyone else?  No.

    Now, I live in Pennsylvania, most of which has never been subject to scrutiny under Section 4 of the VRA.  And there was a concerted effort by Republicans to bring in voter ID.  Guess what?  That energized the progressive community here (as it did in Ohio), and we carried the day.  The Law of Unintended Consequences kicked in.

    Of course the decision is a massive mistake by the Court.  It will force us to work so hard, that we will do even better in 2014 than most expect right now.

    Ancora Impara--Michelangelo

    by aravir on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:50:01 AM PDT

    •  We can't keep playing this game (2+ / 0-)
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      where every unconstitutional abuse of power is met with passivity by Democrats.  Our answer to having our kneecaps shot out every couple of years by a criminal Supreme Court cannot be "let's run faster."  There are five people - five people - responsible for inflicting the unelected horrors of George W. Bush on us: Everything from his wars to his tortures to his economic collapse.  Three of those Justices went on to be the core of the current five who have inflicted every subsequent outrage, imposing the GOP Congress on us in 2010 and today through Citizens United and gerrymandering.  Now they're trying to rig 2014.  We need them off the Court, period.  They're criminals, and no election, no law is safe while they're holding our nation hostage.

      Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

      by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:52:26 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  The way to get them off of the Court (1+ / 0-)
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        is to keep winning Presidential elections.  And to force the Senate Republicans to stop obstructing Obama's appointments to the judiciary branch, since that is the "bench" for the Supreme Court.  If you want to make a difference, work for the best candidates for the Senate in your state, contribute, if you can, to the best candidates for the Senate in other states and pressure your Senators to press Senate leadership for filibuster reform.  

        That's within the system.  Within Daily Kos itself, find a way to convert, rather than to preach to the converted.  There are a lot of passive members of DK who can be energized.  

        Ancora Impara--Michelangelo

        by aravir on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 12:15:28 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  We won a presidential election in 2000. (1+ / 0-)
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          Didn't make a difference.

          We won a massive Congressional majority in 2008, so SCOTUS legalized buying elections and stole Congress back.

          Then they sustained naked gerrymandering, so that when we won the 2012 election somehow the GOP still controlled the House despite getting fewer votes.

          Now they're attacking the demographics that allowed us to retain the White House, in preparation for 2014 and 2016.

          This is not rocket science.  The solution to being shot at is not to practice your golf stroke.

          Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

          by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 01:08:30 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Who would have been on the Court (0+ / 0-)

            if Obama hadn't won in 2000?  The Court is a long game.  Since I have been born, the Republicans have controlled the White House 60% of the time.  It still took decades from the time Rehnquist was appointed until the Court could be characterized as fundamentally conservative.  Obama will appoint at least enough judges to the court to maintain equilibrium, and if the next president is a Democrat, we will wrest the Court back from the right.

            The most difficult issue is that even those members to the left of the current Court are generally corporatist.  That is the issue we need to focus on; removing personhood from corporations.  That will take more time.

            Ancora Impara--Michelangelo

            by aravir on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 04:38:55 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

  •  The level of participation is the biggest issue. (1+ / 0-)
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    Those diaries are not staying up enough, participation in the debate is lacking. Yes there were great diaries written but only the importance of the ruling is not sinking in here.

    "Aux ames bien nees, la valeur n'attend point le nombre des annees" Pierre Corneille.

    by Patate on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 10:57:50 AM PDT

  •  I don't think it should surprise anyone (4+ / 0-)

    that Daily Kos, which is a great forum for airing and debating liberal viewpoints, is nevertheless not particularly representative of the Democratic Party base or even liberalism in general for that matter.  Which isn't a condemnation of the site or Kossacks themselves, it's just a statement of reality.

    To put it another way, I was watching Noticiero Univision at a taqueria the other day, and it was wall to wall coverage of immigration reform.  Given the impact Latinos had in helping Democrats last election, and given that 50,000 Latinos reach voting age every day, you'd think immigration would be a pretty big topic of discussion for Democrats, especially since a landmark immigration reform bill is making its way through Congress.  But here immigration reform doesn't generate much discussion, unless it's about reform's effect on IT professionals and LGBT folks.  

    "Those who have wrought great changes in the world never succeeded by gaining over chiefs; but always by exciting the multitude." - Martin Van Buren

    by puakev on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:00:32 AM PDT

  •  I had a rec listed diary on it. (9+ / 0-)

    Radical extremist Roberts 5 strikes down Voting Rights Act.

    Mine had around 225 recommends.  

    Armando had a rec listed diary on it with lots of recommends:

    The Supreme Court Revives Jim Crow; Updates with President Obama's and John Lewis' Statements

    Ian Reifowitz had a rec listed airy that had over 300 recommends and 700 plus comments:

    Democrats and Republicans Are The Same, Huh?: Voting Rights Act Decision SLAPS That in the Face

    At least three rec listed diaries on the day of the decision.  

    Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

    by TomP on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:04:29 AM PDT

  •  There is no limit to the diaries you can write. (2+ / 0-)
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    chuckvw, Troubadour

    You do a good job at writing diaries. Write more.

    If laws stopping Jim Crow are no longer necessary, laws requiring voter ID and computer voting are surely necessary in all 50 states. What about long voting lines in certain neighborhoods?

    Sure I would like to see that fight happen. But you know what, I will not talk about it during the election. Now is the time.

    So write 50 diaries. What is stopping you. Make some noise. Keep the Recent full. You can do it.

    Voting Rights is a major issue.

    •  I intend to keep it up. (2+ / 0-)
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      88kathy, ord avg guy

      It would be nice if people were more engaged with the issue though.  My diaries should be swamped in a sea of them, not single-handedly comprising 14% of all diaries written on the subject.

      Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

      by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:58:06 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Hey look at me. I am all about gun control. (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Troubadour

        Not many diaries about that lately. Oh one did come through and I missed it. But I am a member of my sig line so I heard about it late.

        I love trains and rapid transit. Not much talk about that lately.

        Last January I made a petition about my idea for gun control. 16 people signed it and the RkBA crew called me every name in the book when I tried to get support here. Now I am hearing other people say it. I love the echo back. It is now coming out that the NRA can't deliver the votes. Soon gun control will be much more restrictive than what I proposed. I will think that is funny. And I do mean funny ha ha.

        So people are ignoring you. Well at least they aren't attacking you and trying to make everyone stay away from you.

        Write on. I think voting rights is the most important thing we have.

        give the NRA the Royal Flush join Stop The NRA

        by 88kathy on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 12:53:39 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Oh by the way the KKK stuff doesn't do much for (0+ / 0-)

        me. I think it is a meta name calling diary when I read the title.

        Just me.

        give the NRA the Royal Flush join Stop The NRA

        by 88kathy on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 12:56:12 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Funny Thing . . . (2+ / 0-)
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    I was told by one of the resident assholes here that I lived in a "white bread world" because I disagreed with on of his favorite diarists here.

    Thing is, a majority of the posters here live in a "white bread world," or else there would have been much more clamor here about the SCOTUS decision to strip the VRA.

    Odds are, the decision will not affect those posters in any way.

    I miss Speaker Pelosi :^(

    by howarddream on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:11:34 AM PDT

  •  To you, and to those who are putting you down... (4+ / 0-)

    I say:

    Do both.  Point out the priorities as done in this diary, AND write as many diaries as you can about the VRA.

    Make it happen, or at least try to.

    But why pillory Troub for simply pointing this out? I found it interesting.

    Ayn is the bane! Take the Antidote To Ayn Rand and call your doctor in the morning: You have health insurance now! @floydbluealdus1

    by Floyd Blue on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 11:46:42 AM PDT

    •  He should be the change (0+ / 0-)

      he's been waiting for.  He's a pretty popular diarist around these parts.  Why is he writing this diary rather than writing diaries on the VRA?  I also think it is just plain false that everyone wasn't furious above the SCOTUS decision.  This place was a firestorm over it and there was unanimous agreement that the decision was wrong and awful.  What more is there to say?  At this point all we can do is try and get congress to write a bill that requires all states to clear changes in voting with the federal government.  How many times can it really be said that this was an evil decision?

  •  Check your premises. (0+ / 0-)

    Since when does the rec list imply that a given diary there is necessarily important or popular?

    What would Mothra do?

    by dov12348 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 12:04:01 PM PDT

    •  They're important because of the prominent (0+ / 0-)

      position they occupy.  They're popular because that's in the definition of being among the Most Recommended diaries.  

      Sign the petition to demand a law-abiding Supreme Court.

      by Troubadour on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 01:10:46 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Although the actual popular ones... (0+ / 0-)

        ...are the ones hit on by all persons - members and non-members.

        What we have here is 50% cliques and their leader occupying various spots on the rec list repeatedly.

        But we're not supposed to say the emperor has no clothes.

        What would Mothra do?

        by dov12348 on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 01:27:03 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  But, but .... (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    ord avg guy, Troubadour

    Ecuador!

    (who apparently also likes to "spy" on their citizens, btw)

  •  If you want to bitch, then climate is truly (0+ / 0-)

    the ultimate elephant in the room.  

    Can't vote when you're dead.

    Obama: self-described Republican; backed up by right-wing policies

    by The Dead Man on Thu Jun 27, 2013 at 12:22:24 PM PDT

  •  Oh, and How About Immigration Reform? (0+ / 0-)

    1-2 mentions on the front page?

    When something actually gets accomplished, this place is all crickets.

    Sheesh.

    I miss Speaker Pelosi :^(

    by howarddream on Fri Jun 28, 2013 at 01:20:09 PM PDT

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