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The latest PPP poll shows that Ted Cruz is now viewed by Republicans as the leader of their party.

The one thing that the Democratic Party completely lacks today is a "Ted Cruz of the Left"-type figure.

What I mean by that is there isn't any Democrat who holds elected office today that is willing to go to extreme lengths, including threatening to shut down the government, to promote a progressive agenda.

In the upcoming fight over the debt ceiling, we don't have anyone in either house of Congress who would be willing to give the Democratic leadership leverage that they thought they don't have. What I mean by that is that I'd love to see a Democratic Member of Congress propose progressive ideals like these in the upcoming debt ceiling fight, and threaten to single-handedly take responsibility for the U.S. defaulting on its debt if he or she get them enacted into law:

- Raising income taxes to 70% for the wealthiest 1% of Americans
- Eliminating income taxes on those making less than 150% of the poverty level
- Legalizing, taxing, and regulating marijuana and industrial hemp nationwide
- Repealing the Hyde Amendment
- Enacting a national law prohibiting states from enacting right-to-work-for-less laws
- Implementing a public option-type health care system
- Amending the Voting Rights Act to include national preclearance for all changes to state and local election laws and procedures
- Proposing a federal constitutional amendment that would repeal the Citizens United v. FEC Supreme Court decision
- Implementing national presidential primary and caucus day
- Proposing a federal constitutional amendment that would replace the Electoral College with a "top-two instant runoff" national popular vote system for presidential elections
- A national economic development bank similar to what North Dakota has at the state level
- Repealing all free-trade agreements that the U.S. has with foreign countries
- Enacting limits on how much candidates for federal office can donate to their own campaigns (what I like to call "The Ron Johnson Rule")

It would be real nice if we had a figure within the Democratic Party who realized that President Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and all of other milquetoast establishment Democrats are just as much of an adversary to the progressive movement as the Republicans and Tea Partiers are. We need a progressive Democrat in Congress who will do whatever is necessary, even going as far as to threaten to shut down the government and/or make this country default on its national debt, to implement a progressive agenda to make America a stronger country.

Republicans have their leader who is willing to go to great lengths to implement a far-right agenda in Ted Cruz. We don't have a leader in our party that is willing to go to great lengths to implement a progressive agenda, instead, we're stuck with a milquetoast establishment that has even been known to promote right-wing austerity measures.

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  •  Tip Jar (4+ / 0-)
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    ffour, EdMass, dankester, txcatlin

    My parents made me a Democrat. Scott Walker made me a progressive.

    by DownstateDemocrat on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:23:50 AM PDT

  •  Cruz is (16+ / 0-)

    the flavor of the week for GOPers that hate the President.

    He is also the most hated man in Congress right now.
    I suppose that Bernie Sanders could be that man on the left, but I am not sure he would be re-elected, even in Vermont, if he took the govt to the brink of default.

    Default is not something to play around with, as a tactic, and anyone who is sane knows it.

    The impact on the economy would be huge, leading to more deficits, which does not help protect any progressive programs currently comprising our safety net.

    •  I disagree (8+ / 0-)

      Look: we have an Alan Grayson who is not afraid to say what he thinks, including that the GOP's "replacement" plan for Obamacare is "Don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly."

      I am on his email list and I read all his messages because they are funny, solidly progressive, and uncompromising. He's nowhere near being a Ted Cruz though in terms of his intransigence and willingness to go to extremes.

      Yet Grayson has been branded as too extreme, too divisive, too blunt, not just by the cowering, timid media which does not want to hear anything from Democrats except "Well, let the Republicans have their way so they shut up," but by MANY PEOPLE HERE.

      When I see these posts, I have no idea what these people are thinking. But I see the contradiction here all the time. On one hand, we want leaders who breathe flame. We attack Obama because he's not a fire breather. But when we get a little flicker, we attack THAT person, complaining that that person is going to cause trouble for us.

      We need to work this through.

      Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it. http://www.edfitzgeraldforohio.com/

      by anastasia p on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:39:11 AM PDT

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      •  From your lips (0+ / 0-)

        To god's ears. Thank you. A million times thank you for this. It's impossible for me to agree with this more than I currently do.

        "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

        by dankester on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 02:18:59 PM PDT

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      •  I love Alan Grayson. (2+ / 0-)
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        Always have always will.   Bernie Sanders is pretty terrific too.  But I think we don't want insane people.  If Cruz isn't insane he is so purely calculating and with no scruples at all as to be pure evil.  (I know that is a really tortured sentence.  Sorry.)

        I don't want us to have anyone like him.

  •  Cruz is a freshman Senator in his first (9+ / 0-)

    session of Congress, holds no formal leadership position, and has a limited following among GOP members of Congress, so its hard to characterize him as a leader. However, he is a leading advocate for his views of limited government. I would think that Alan Grayson holds a similar position in the Democratic Party. Interestingly they are both Harvard Law School graduates.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:35:55 AM PDT

    •  So was Obama, just sayin' N/t (0+ / 0-)

      "When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier." Rudyard Kipling

      by EdMass on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:41:04 AM PDT

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      •  Senator Obama didn't rock the boat (7+ / 0-)

        Senator Obama was very much a team player, and quietly gained supporters behind the scenes. While his tenure was similar to Ted Cruz, his actions were very different.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:48:15 AM PDT

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        •  Oh, so his voting (0+ / 0-)

          against a raise to the debt limit was just an inconvenient truth?  Your talking points are showing....

          "When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier." Rudyard Kipling

          by EdMass on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:57:53 AM PDT

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          •  dumb vote, but incommensurable (6+ / 0-)

            Every Democrat in the Senate voted against raising the debt limit, secure in the knowledge that they would lose. It's a rather embarrassing bipartisan tradition of sorts. Obama was, indeed, very much part of the team there.

            "I am not sure how we got here, but then, I am not really sure where we are." -Susan from 29

            by HudsonValleyMark on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:07:13 AM PDT

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          •  Ed - I was writing in a more general fashion (2+ / 0-)
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            the vote against the debt ceiling, done with the understanding that the debt ceiling had more than enough votes to carry, was out of character. There is no doubt that he now wishes that he had voted for the increase in the debt ceiling and not made a speech on the Senate floor that is eerily similar to those his opponents are currently using. His vote and Senate speech clearly weakens his position on the debt limit issue.

            "let's talk about that"

            by VClib on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:41:25 AM PDT

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  •  Progressives take governing seriously (17+ / 0-)

    If you want an ideological hack in your party, then you might want to reexamine your ethical views of government.

    Anarchy and chaos are not a part of the progressive movement.

  •  Needs a media that reports on progressives (3+ / 0-)

    Have you heard anyone ever talk about the Congressional Progressive Caucus' People's Budget?
    http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/...

    "He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

    by Hayate Yagami on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:37:57 AM PDT

    •  C'mon (1+ / 0-)
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      The Progressive Caucus receives the attention of the MSM as it is related to their influence and power to drive legislation.  Which sadly is apparently zero on both counts.  

      "When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier." Rudyard Kipling

      by EdMass on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:00:40 AM PDT

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  •  If President Obama is so... (5+ / 0-)

    "milquetoast," why does he bring out so much rage from the right?

    A milquetoast president wouldn't engender 24/7 rage.

    Also, we have a bloviating buffoon on our side. His name is Alan Grayson.

    How about I believe in the unlucky ones?

    by BenderRodriguez on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:39:21 AM PDT

      •  That's certainly part of it. (5+ / 0-)

        But he's also effective.

        Whatever your views are about him, though, he sure as hell ain't milquetoast.

        How about I believe in the unlucky ones?

        by BenderRodriguez on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:47:00 AM PDT

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        •  The President (1+ / 0-)
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          Is so milquetoast that actual milk and toast think he's bland.  

          I'm not a roxxor or suxxor, but that is my take on him.  

          I think he's been conditioned his whole life to not appear as an "angry black man" so as to frighten white people that he's almost constitutionally devoid of righteous anger.  

          I know if I were him I'd be on TV calling out those "racist assholes" in those exact words every day.  Not saying that is the best approach, but it would be mine.  

          "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

          by dankester on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:58:39 AM PDT

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          •  People who have changed and shaped... (4+ / 0-)
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            history -- Gandhi, FDR, Churchill, Lincoln, MLK -- tend not to let loose with rage- and epithet-filled tirades.

            Still waters run deep, friend.

            How about I believe in the unlucky ones?

            by BenderRodriguez on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:08:39 AM PDT

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            •  Fair enough (0+ / 0-)

              Lyndon Johnson, Harry Truman, Huey Long, Andrew Jackson, and Theodore Roosevelt are all people that affected great change in this country all while letting loose a few epithets in their tirades.

              This cuts both ways. One musn't always be a wallflower to get things done.

              I for one would like to see some more righteous indignation and anger from liberals. It would help galvanize the base and make people believe the pols believe what they're saying. Lord knows we're entitled to some indignation and anger over how things have gone for the past thirty five years.

              "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

              by dankester on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 01:54:31 PM PDT

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          •  Exactly this: (3+ / 0-)

            "Not saying that is the best approach"

            Obama gives a shit about what the best approach is in order to accomplish something. Throwing gratuitous red meat to people who consume political theater for entertainment value is not his way.  But then it's one of the reasons he is one of the few adults in the beltway.

            I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

            by Satya1 on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:46:02 AM PDT

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    •  Because (4+ / 0-)

      The President is black.  That's why they hate him.  It has nothing to do with ideology.

      How dare you call one of our most vocal advocates a buffoon?  Alan Grayson is an American treasure and our republic would be improved 200 fold if there were 200 Alan Graysons in our Congress.  

      "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

      by dankester on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:45:11 AM PDT

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    •  I disagree. (0+ / 0-)
      A milquetoast president wouldn't engender 24/7 rage.
      Bullies go berserk at anything they see as "weakness".  Probably similar to a pack of wild dogs ripping a rabbit to pieces.

      Their problem is that they're ignoring Obama's diplomatic neoliberalism, and applying their latest delusions to everything he does.

      Maybe because he's black, but probably mainly because he's The Other, and they're psychotic.

      I am become Man, the destroyer of worlds

      by tle on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:20:41 AM PDT

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    •  They're totalitarians (3+ / 0-)

      They think they're entitled to rule, and they think anyone who stops them from doing so is thwarting God's will. They'll p!ss in any well they can't drink from, they'll burn any house they can't live in. They fought this way when it was Bill Clinton in the White House; they fight this way now that it's Obama. The only difference is that Clinton gave them ammunition with which to fight because of his personal conduct. Obama doesn't do that, but since he's black it's easy to make things up about him that are believable to our many racists no matter how false they are.

      The Bush Family: 0 for 4 in Wisconsin

      by Korkenzieher on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:59:04 AM PDT

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  •  You really are out (14+ / 0-)

    ...to destroy the "left", aren't you.

    What we have seen in the past five years is that escalating craziness eventually takes a party over the cliff.  Cruz is so destructive of GOP interests that some Goopers are even beginning to attack him as a lefty plant.

    On those still mainlining a Rush need their higher dose of crazy.  It is a matter of time until the are no longer relevant at all.  That day has passed.

    50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

    by TarheelDem on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:40:00 AM PDT

  •  I couldn't agree more. (3+ / 0-)
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    I'm tired of this "both sides have their crazies" argument.  Where are our crazies?  Our most liberal elected officials, people like Bernie Sanders (he doesn't even self identify as a Democrat) are all pretty standard liberals.  I've often wondered how liberal a guy like Bernie would seem in the Senate from the 1960's when people like Abe Ribicoff and George McGovern were around.  I'm guessing Bernie would simply fit in with them and not stick out.  

    I would love for someone to pound the pulpit every day about inequality in this country, all types, economic, opportunity, criminal justice, everything.  

    The right has their straw men liberal boogeymen.  I would like nothing more than to provide them with some honest to goodness dyed in the wool left wingers.    

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

    by dankester on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:40:40 AM PDT

    •  Yes, they are absolutely critical in an (3+ / 0-)
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      Overton Window way, if for nothing else.

      Unfortunately, they tend to come across as just slightly unhinged (Dennis Kucinich), of the past (Mike Gravel), or massively self-serving (John Edwards).

      Not sure how to solve this problem.  I'd step into the void, but I'd make the people mentioned above look like raving non-lunatics by comparison.

      •  Me too (2+ / 0-)
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        DownstateDemocrat, txcatlin

        I would love to run for office as an old fashioned liberal, economic populist.  I am 29 and I know most of my friends that haven't been compromised by conservative thought would react incredibly positive to the messages of the last century liberals that did so much good for this country.  

        I really feel like there is a serious gap there waiting to be filled by the correct candidates.  

        "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

        by dankester on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:53:50 AM PDT

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    •  About this: (2+ / 0-)
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      I would love for someone to pound the pulpit every day about inequality in this country
      If that were happening already, how would we know about it?  Which media outlets are going to cover it?  Even leftist blogs are often focused on the narratives fed from corporate media companies as reactions to what they feed us.

      How many people at DK took the time to watch Obama's speech in Maryland?  And what are all the other senators and reps saying?  No one really knows, to be honest about it.  And it's not about  o get hand-delivered to us either.

      I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

      by Satya1 on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:52:58 AM PDT

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  •  no thanks - that would be a reason to (5+ / 0-)
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    edwardssl, Wisper, wdrath, BachFan, Deep Texan

    leave the Democrats behind for good - geesh how more crazy will this get. Time to get outta here.

    "It's what you do, not what you say, that makes your nation" - some dude

    by mimi on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:41:36 AM PDT

  •  the last thing we need is an asshole like Ted Cruz (14+ / 0-)

    Ted Cruz is a self serving pompous ass. i know what you mean, you want somebody who is willing to fight hard and publically for what you believe is correct. but that is not what Ted Cruz is doing. he's grandstanding in front of people who already agree with him, in a highly dangerous way that is damaging to good public policy and to his own party.

    that last thing democrats need is somebody will to do that to us. assholes like that belong in the GOP.

  •  That's not a 'Ted Cruz'. (6+ / 0-)

    A 'Ted Cruz' on the left would propose stupid, lunatic ideas that also only hurt the American people, not ideas that would bring the middle class roaring back into existence.

  •  I think (4+ / 0-)

    A lot of you are missing the point of the diarist.  

    I don't take it to mean the diarist wants an ignorant know-nothing liberal.  Just ones that will actually propose and actively work and loudly fight for liberal causes, and not this triangulation crap we've been force fed since President Clinton.  

    I'm tired of the Third Way.  How about the good old fashioned second way as first proposed by a REPUBLICAN, Theodore Roosevelt?  

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

    by dankester on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:50:29 AM PDT

    •  There are a few of them that do just that - (3+ / 0-)

      but quietly and sensibly.  Like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.  Not many, I know, but some.

    •  "threatening to shut down the government" (4+ / 0-)

      The diarist offered at least three variations on that (and/or debt default). It isn't just a matter of "actively work[ing] and loudly fight[ing]."

      "I am not sure how we got here, but then, I am not really sure where we are." -Susan from 29

      by HudsonValleyMark on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:27:06 AM PDT

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    •  I think you're not charactering the diary to its (4+ / 0-)

      full extent.

      I read it as:
      Rather than advocate for party leadership people who actually argue for their positions and try to prevail upon the public the worthiness of those positions such that enough people of that ilk are elected to enact those policies, the diarist would advocate for party "leader" one who would destroy the world economy unless his demands are met, even if those demands were rejected by the public in the previous presidential election.

      But I can't tell whether the diarist wants such a figure because he thinks that's the best way to push "progressive" policy, or simply because the diarist wants a counterweight to Cruz.

      Personally, I think such tactics (threaten to destroy the world economy unless one's demands are met, right after those demands were rejected in a presidential election) would discredit the "progressive movement".  And if such a person ever became "leader" of the Democratic Party, then I'd consider moving on.

      •  It's the best way to push progressive policy (0+ / 0-)

        Threaten to shut down the government and/or default on our country's national debt unless enough people in both houses of Congress accept a progressive agenda in order to pass it into law.

        That's the only way you're ever going to get the Democratic establishment to support progressive ideals.

        My parents made me a Democrat. Scott Walker made me a progressive.

        by DownstateDemocrat on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:48:46 AM PDT

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  •  A Ted Cruz of the left? (14+ / 0-)

    You mean someone willing to lie and put landmines all over the place to blow his own party apart and harm the entire nation for his own personal gain?

    Yeah...no.

  •  We don't need an ideological crackpot. (12+ / 0-)

    The perception that the Democratic Party was run by ideological crackpots is what helped get Ronald Reagan in office.

  •  Cruz is out for himself. (10+ / 0-)

    He doesn't care about his party, he doesn't care about conservatives.  He cares only about himself and raising money.

    Why would we want someone like that "leading" the party? We already have enough of those types.  

    We need to be smart enough to learn the right lessons from the repub implosion.  And we sure don't need to do the exact same thing ourselves.

    No thanks!

  •  I've been asking this ? for years (1+ / 0-)
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    Where are our "young guns"?  Y'a know those that don't Tweet their genitals?  Those that don't be outrageous for the sake of doing so.  

    Y'a know, anyone in their 40's or 50's that is a strong, committed voice for the progressive agenda that can capture the imagination of the populace and lead us forward.

    Instead we have Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, Schumer, Durbin, etc etc.  We are somehow becoming your grandparents party -- because they won't let go after decades in congress and grow the next generation. (I am not being ageist, I am acknowledging a reality).

     Please don't tell me that DWS is our hope for the future..  

    Well who?

    "When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier." Rudyard Kipling

    by EdMass on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 10:53:22 AM PDT

    •  Jeff Merkley, Elizabeth Warren, Brian Schatz... (5+ / 0-)

      ...Sheldon Whitehouse, Tammy Baldwin all have much to like.

      They are, of course, liberals, not the radicals (I do not use the word perjoratively) that the diarist would like.

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 12:07:29 PM PDT

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      •  Those (0+ / 0-)

        that you mention all seem more like establishment Democrats to me.  

        I'm thinking more in the vein of Alan Grayson and Anthony Weiner (before we found out he was an oddball, when he was a major champion for some around here).

        "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

        by dankester on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 02:32:06 PM PDT

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  •  we don't need people (9+ / 0-)

    emulating Republican's childish and irresponsible behavior. That won't benefit us progressives at all.

    Although it would be great to have one person who has the rhetorical ability to arouse the left, as Cruz does the right. That would make sense.

    To me, Sen. Bernie Sanders has done that for a long time. He, uniquely, seems to be able to frame all issues from the perspective of middle class citizens and to frame liberal viewpoints to the needs and perspectives of those middle class voters.

  •  I respectfully disagree (7+ / 0-)

    The last thing we need is a Ted Cruz of the the left.

    Ted Cruz is hated by his own party.

    Ted Cruz panders to the lowest of the low in the Republican base.

    Ted Cruz is only interested in promoting Ted Cruz, and the country be damned.

    I will agree that Harry Reid is hardly a firebrand and he gives in far too easily, but I doubt that anyone who crossed Nancy Pelosi would describe her as a milk-toast. And I do believe that President Obama has finally figured out that the current crop of Republicans just need to be told NO in a firm, unyielding way. No histrionics, just a firm, unyielding, NO.

    When you have a two-year-old throwing a tantrum and yelling and screaming and stomping on the floor, you don't respond by throwing a tantrum that is louder. You wait them out  then calmly announce what the rules will be. The Republicans can have all the whiny brats they want. I would much rather be represented by the grown-ups in the room.

    "That being said, I do agree I am going to hell. But for other reasons. Mostly boring tax stuff ' Amy Pohler

    by Annie B on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:04:37 AM PDT

  •  We had one, he voted against everything we put (3+ / 0-)
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    up because it wasn't pure enough. Eventually lost his seat in redistricting. His only redeeming feature was a hot young red headed French fashion model of a wife.

    “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

    by ban nock on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:10:17 AM PDT

  •  Well... (8+ / 0-)
    What I mean by that is there isn't any Democrat who holds elected office today that is willing to go to extreme lengths, including threatening to shut down the government, to promote a progressive agenda.
    Because shutting down the government is directly antithetical to the tenets of the progressive agenda, for one.

    Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

    by pico on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:18:04 AM PDT

  •  A Left Cruz (1+ / 0-)
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    wouldn't be able to rally the Left the way Cruz rallies the Right. We work on logic and facts, fairness and compassion, higher order thinking. Cruz and the TeaBaggers are working the lizard-brain: fear, hatred, selfishness.
    We have had firebrands, still do, Grayson is a perfect example, but our side doesn't work that way.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:26:50 AM PDT

  •  Breathtakingly irresponsible (5+ / 0-)

    "We need a progressive Democrat in Congress who will do whatever is necessary, even going as far as to threaten to shut down the government and/or make this country default on its national debt, to implement a progressive agenda to make America a stronger country."

    It doesn't matter if you drive over the right or the left side of the cliff. It isn't the fall that kills you.

    "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

    by conspiracy on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:51:15 AM PDT

  •  Pass. (6+ / 0-)

    Dawkins is to atheism as Rand is to personal responsibility- mperiousRex.

    by terrypinder on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:54:49 AM PDT

  •  There is so much wrong with this: (4+ / 0-)
    What I mean by that is there isn't any Democrat who holds elected office today that is willing to go to extreme lengths, including threatening to shut down the government, to promote a progressive agenda.
    But for starters it's incredibly naive politically.  Take some time.  Read more.  Try Ornstein and Mann's recent book for starters.

    I'm not liberal. I'm actually just anti-evil, OK? - Elon James White

    by Satya1 on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 11:58:15 AM PDT

  •  no we don't (1+ / 0-)
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    TLS66

    -You want to change the system, run for office.

    by Deep Texan on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 12:11:20 PM PDT

  •  Some points regarding your laundry... (4+ / 0-)

    ...list. (Plenty of people have already responded to your shut-the-government-down for the left idea.)

    The Hyde Amendment doesn't need to be repealed. Just let it lapse instead of renewing it each year.

    Eliminate ALL free trade agreements? Sorry, I've got big problems with the way the U.S. has led and plugged itself into the free trade agreements. But dumping them all wholesale? That's a formula for disaster. What we need is a free trade/fair trade formula with much stronger provisions guarding worker safety and economic well-being as well as the environment.

    I presume you mean the marginal tax rate at 70%. The highest the effective rate—what people actually pay—was around 52% in the mid-'50s. Even though the nominal marginal rate was 91%, nobody paid anything close to that.

    The primary system needs revamping, to be sure. But having all primaries and caucuses on one day is not the right approach. It would mean party conventions with four or five candidates who would have to horse-trade to get the nomination, and that would be a step backward.

    Just one comment about milquetoast. If you'd ever met Nancy Pelosi you would know she ain't that however you feel about her politics.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 12:19:07 PM PDT

  •  Oh, not no but HELL NO, we don't need a Cruz (1+ / 0-)
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    Deep Texan

    He's a lying saboteur of all things logical, and he's loud, obnoxious, and Canadian to boot, but he thinks he can just abdicate his citizenship (uh, no. Your mom might've been from the USA but you weren't delivered on USA soil -- not even an embassy or military base. So, sux to be you, Teddie boy. No White House 4 U, Cruz!)

    LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

    by BlackSheep1 on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 12:33:28 PM PDT

  •  So much wrong (1+ / 0-)
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    Deep Texan

    with this.

    The last thing we need is a loon like Cruz.  While he may represent all that is the right wing nowadays, a mirror image of him would not represent much of anything having to do with the Democratic party.

    Instead, we get Elizabeth Warren.  We get Alan Grayson.  We get Al Franken.  I wish we got Bernie Sanders.

    People who build things up, not tear them down.  People who respect their constituents and get respect from their constituents.  People who respect ideas and ideals and look for the best of both.

    These are the anti-Ted Cruz.

    I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

    by trumpeter on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 02:32:19 PM PDT

  •  We have one (0+ / 0-)

    Alan Grayson.

    I'd like to start a new meme: "No means no" is a misnomer. It should be "Only 'Yes' means yes." Just because someone doesn't say "No" doesn't mean they've given consent. If she didn't say "Yes", there is no consent.

    by second gen on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 04:03:42 PM PDT

  •  And shitting on other Democrats for (0+ / 0-)

    passing bills that don't have that laundry list?

    NOPE

    Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

    by Loge on Fri Sep 27, 2013 at 04:13:10 PM PDT

  •  This Curz is the stuff that dictators are made of (0+ / 0-)

    so I would think twice before I wished for one on the left.  After all if people got impowered by such as this they might rise up and get rid of their ugly oppressors like the the Kochs and their addicted supporters.  That would be a loss to the body politic that would fill the rivers and streams of America with filth for a long time to come.

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