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So howcome is it that when we're both wanting the same thing, one of us has to diss the other of us for not wanting it as badly, or not being as articulate in our wanting, or having some kind of ulterior motive that only the assassins of the Kennedy's and King's ilk would understand?

I'm tossing this one out here for discussion, It's a genuine question for me and I'm interested in your point of view, not mine. In other words, will be reading, won't be commenting, make sense?  Look forward to learning from your comments (if there are any.)

Peace

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  •  I'm concerned because we need more civility. (0+ / 0-)
  •  I don't doubt it's a genuine question (5+ / 0-)

    and that you are interested in taking in others point of view.

    The problem I am having in meeting the request for my take is that this diary is rather cryptic, assumes that others have a clearer picture of the whos, whats, wheres, whys, and whens behind what you are talking about, and I'm just not psychic. In general, people can be cranky, contrarian, and need to feel right on the internet because somebody is wrong on the internet. Sometimes one party can feel insulted or condescended to when the other side thinks the conversation went swimmingly. Some people have no idea how blunt or brusque they are or come across in conversation.

    I want what you want.
    I want context and a little more specificity.

    Is this Civility Meta in the broadest most sweeping sense?

    Or did an actual discussion go sideways?

    Fellow travelers disagree all the time. Fellow travelers do not agree on tactics, strategy, messaging, tone, abrasiveness, and what is and is not unhelpful all the time. Some fellow travelers are not even fellow travelers at all.

    What happened? Context.

    Because if it's just sweeping meta, it gets a sweeping answer.

    Like, say, "Sometimes people are just mean".

    I am a Loco-Foco. I am from the Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party.

    by LeftHandedMan on Thu Oct 31, 2013 at 05:06:11 PM PDT

  •  First of all I'd suggest you calm down and (4+ / 0-)

    focus on just what the hell it is that you're upset about.

    State your topic of discomfort and purpose a solution in a paragraph or two. Then ask for comments and suggestions to further your aims.

    You may be surprised to find ready solutions here instead of arguments.

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    What, sir, would the people of the earth be without woman? They would be scarce, sir, almighty scarce. Mark Twain

    by Gordon20024 on Thu Oct 31, 2013 at 05:13:33 PM PDT

  •  um, what? (1+ / 0-)
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    Gordon20024

    The first thing, is say something in a way that most of us understand what you're saying. Once that happens, we'll have something to discuss.

    Thanks in advance.

    This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

    by Karl Rover on Thu Oct 31, 2013 at 05:53:37 PM PDT

  •  contrary to popular belief (2+ / 0-)
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    oldpotsmuggler, terrybuck

    "contrary" people don't just like to hear themselves talk,

    they don't much like to hear other people talking, too.


    PS. When you ignore them,

    it drives them crazy.  

    And life's too short for their brand of insanity.

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