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PPP released it's Pennsylvania Miscellany poll today and if the 2016 Pennsylvania U.S. Senate race were held today, Decorated Admiral and former Congressman Joe Sestak (D. PA) would tie Tea Party Senator Pat Toomey (R. PA):

Bob Casey (44/42 approval) is faring better with voters in the state right now than his junior colleague Pat Toomey (36/46 approval). Both Senators are down a net 7 points on their approval compared to when we last polled the state in March. Toomey would tie Joe Sestak at 42 in a rematch of their 2010 match up that he pulled out by a couple points, and he would trail Attorney General Kathleen Kane 46/42 in a hypothetical contest. 2016 is certainly a long way off but early indications are that this should be a competitive race. - PPP, 11/27/13
The poll also found overwhelming support for raising the minimum wage to $10 an hour (57/34) while Obamacare is still unpopular in the Keystone State (40/51).  The 2016 Senate race wasn't the only major 2016 race PPP tested:
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie introduces U.S. President Barack Obama (not pictured) to speak on the rebuilding of the Jersey Shore following Hurricane Sandy, from Asbury Park in New Jersey, May 28, 2013. President Barack Obama and Christie teamed up again to tour areas damaged by last year's Hurricane Sandy, giving a boost to a Democratic president enmeshed in scandals at home.  REUTERS/Jason Reed    (UNITED STATES - Tags: POLITICS HEADSHOT) - RTX1048Z
Pennsylvania really shows what a wide disparity there is between Chris Christie's appeal and the rest of the Republican Presidential candidates. He leads Hillary Clinton 48/44 in the state, while the rest of the GOP hopefuls do as bad or worse than Mitt Romney did there last year. Clinton leads Jeb Bush 48/44, Rand Paul 51/43, Rick Santorum 51/42, and Ted Cruz 53/41.

Christie also leads the Republican primary field in the state with 26% to 16% for Ted Cruz, 14% for Rand Paul, 10% for Jeb Bush, 8% for Rick Santorum, 6% for Marco Rubio, 5% for Paul Ryan, and 3% each for Bobby Jindal and Scott Walker. Even there Christie is weak with 'very conservative' voters, getting just 11% to 23% for Cruz and 19% for Paul. But with moderates Christie gets 45% to 13% for Paul, 10% for Bush, and just 5% for Cruz.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton smiles during a town hall meeting/television interview on January 29, 2013 at the Newseum in Washington, DC. Clinton will be taking questions from youths from around the world via satellite and social media. AFP PHOTO/Mandel NGAN        (Photo credit should read MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images)
In the Democratic primary there's not much of a home state bonus for Joe Biden. Hillary Clinton still gets 61% to 13% for Biden, 11% for Elizabeth Warren, 3% for Andrew Cuomo, and 2% for Cory Booker. Clinton does well with pretty much every segment of the Democratic electorate. - PPP, 11/27/13
PPP did survey 693 Pennsylvania voters between November 22nd and 25th.  They sampled 491 Republican voters and 436 Democratic voters.  That might explain why Christie is leading Clinton because PA is Clinton territory.  So if Hillary runs, expect to see her team campaign hard to win back the Keystone State.  

Now for my fellow Pittsburghers, I have some great news for you.  PPP found that 48% of Pennsylvanians identify themselves as Steelers fans compared to 28& who identify themselves to Eagles fans.  Steelers coach Mike Tomlin is still well liked with 56% of Steelers fans approving of his job and 60% of them want him to return next season.  Pirates fever is still well alive in Pennsylvania with 34% identifying as Pirates fans while 28% identify as Phillies fans.  Now in terms of college sports, 47% identify themselves as Penn State Nittany Lions fans whereas Pitt gets 20% and my Alma Matter, Temple University, comes in third with 11%.

With the exception of Christie narrowly leading Clinton, I'm pleased with this poll.  I'm happy Casey is more popular than Toomey.  I may not always agree with Casey but I am happy that he is the Senior Senator of Pennsylvania.  Plus, he wrote my cousin's recommendation letter to West Point so he really scored some more points with me.  Now I am impressed to see Sestak and Toomey tied this early in the game.  Grant it's still very early but still, I'm happy to see Sestak still showing a strong presence with voters.  Now I am impressed by how strong of a candidate Kane would be if she chose to run for Senate.  She's a great Attorney General and I personally would like to see her have two terms.  I am dedicated to Sestak's campaign because he really should be in the U.S. Senate, not the Congressman from Wall Street.  However, knowing that Kane would also make a great candidate is good to know.  But I remain committed to Sestak getting his revenge in 2016 and I love the fact that he's getting started now.  If you would like to get involved or donate to Sestak's campaign, you can do so here:

Originally posted to pdc on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 10:43 AM PST.

Also republished by Pittsburgh Area Kossacks, Philly Kos, DKos Pennsylvania, Military Community Members of Daily Kos, and The Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party.

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  •  So maybe we can correct (7+ / 0-)

    that other mistake made by PA voters in 2010, and vote Toomey out of the Senate?  I'm glad he's in a weak position, and whether the Democratic nominee is Sestak or someone else, I want to see Toomey beaten, Santorum style.

    -5.13,-5.64; GOP thinking: A 13 year path to citizenship is too easy, and a 5 minute background check is too burdensome. -- 1audreyrenee

    by gizmo59 on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 11:02:23 AM PST

  •  Sestak is a horrible campaigner (4+ / 0-)

    I did like him and supported him for Congress and Senate with money and votes, but his speaking style is poor and he simply was not aggressive enough. What's way worse, in my opinion, is that he failed to tie Toomey to the Club for Growth and its anti-Social Security and anti-Medicare stance in a state with the the number of elderly second only to Florida. In fact, I don't think he ever mentioned it.  Kane is much more charismatic and I doubt she would hesitate in nailing Toomey with whatever there was to nail him.  On the other hand, if the governorship stays Republican, she's better in place.

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

    by accumbens on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 11:22:28 AM PST

    •  Disagree, Sestak nailed Toomey on his role in (4+ / 0-)
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      marina, Gygaxian, Out There, Mostel26

      pushing the effort in repealing Glass Stegall and kept tying Toomey to Bush and Santorum, especially with this ad:

      Sestak campaigned in every county and fought hard.  Now his mistake may have been trying to tie Toomey to Christine O'Donnell.  Toomey's smooth, he can come off as a Tea Party Republican moderates can trust.  Him and O'Donnell are still in the same Tea Party nut bowl but Toomey's not O'Donnell as a candidate.  Sestak said he wants to run again and do it right.  I trust him and I think he can run a better campaign.  Still, even for a bad year for Democrats, his race was one of the closest and he's running in a Presidential year this time.

      Funny Stuff at

      by poopdogcomedy on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 11:39:46 AM PST

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    •  Sestak Spent All His Time Preening On Fox News (1+ / 0-)
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      basking in the attention over whether Obama had "bribed" him, as if that was going to win him a single vote.

      I don't keep bringing that up just to be a dick - I want people to remember what a weird self destructive campaign he ran and the need for substantially better handlers.

      Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

      by bernardpliers on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 12:54:28 PM PST

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      •  As I remember, Sestak didn't want to talk about (1+ / 0-)
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        that after the primary.  Now during the primary he brought it up because he had to make the case that he's not an establishment candidate.  Yeah, he was on Fox News but a lot of central Pennsylvanians, including old school Democrats, watch Fox News.  Arlen Specter's stronghold was central PA and Joe had to appeal to them.  Sestak isn't like Dennis Kucinich who decided to be a Fox News talking head because he was pissed about losing his seat due to a gross GOP gerrymandered map that Kucinich supported and even campaigned for the OH GOP.  He also had to bring up the job offer because the PA Democratic Party was spreading lies about Sestak and making robocalls claiming that Sestak said he would support Toomey if he lost the primary.  Sestak never said that.  Joe may have had his bumps along the campaign trail, I admit that.  But the PA Democratic Party deserves some blame as well.  I understand why Rendell and the party heads wanted Specter.  Specter and Rendell have a long and strong working relationship.  Hell, Ed owes Arlen for his political career.  Specter was the one who gave Rendell his first job.  If Specter had switched parties after the 2006 election (especially since he was way more popular with Democratic voters than Republican voters) like Rendell had been begging him to do so for a while instead of wait until Jim DeMint told him they would be backing Toomey over him, Specter may have survived in 2010, both the primary and the general.  Specter's part switch was the right thing to do but it came too little too late.  PA Democrats knew that but just couldn't admit it.

        Funny Stuff at

        by poopdogcomedy on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 01:10:42 PM PST

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        •  He Should Have Appeared On Local TV Stations (0+ / 0-)

          Jesus, there's Philly, Pgh, Altoona, Harrisburg, Scranton, and State College. None of them are far from DC.

          He was on Fox getting a hostile reception to talk about a classic bullshit inside-the-beltawy nontroversy that was of no interest to the voters in PA.

          Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

          by bernardpliers on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 02:21:16 PM PST

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  •  already getting calls for money for 2016 campaigns (2+ / 0-)
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    Vatexia, marina

    in PA - ugh.

    Good news that Sestak and Kane could both beat Toomey.  Comcast exec is raising money for both Toomey and Gov Corbett - ugh.

    Interesting news about the sports teams.  In the south central part of the state there are many Baltimore Ravens fans also.  They don't like the Steelers or the Eagles - just the Baltimore Ravens, who are closer geographically to that part of the state than they are to Philadelphia or Pittsburgh.

  •  Somebody needs to tell Pennsyltucky (1+ / 0-)
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    what is going on in a way that even teabaggers can understand. We have a contingent of them who pollute the local newspaper with their talking points and disinformation. The editor coddles them and likes to provoke controversy, and is unfair to many liberal causes.

    I think if Sestak came up here and puffed up his military creds, spoke plainly with local vets, we might have a winner. Someone has to appeal to the better angels.

  •  Sestak was my rep (2+ / 0-)
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    poopdogcomedy, Mostel26

    Until he ran for Senate. His only problem was that it was 2010, and that as usual, our midterm voters in SE PA failed to show up strongly enough. That won't be the case in Prez year 2016.

  •  I to want rid of Toomey very badly (0+ / 0-)

    Reading the one comments perhaps Joe can spend some time on improving his speaking style before 2016. As for Christie lets hope with time that the truth about just how bad of a governor he really is gets out. Of course when it comes to Republicans facts and truth don't matter at all. I believe that they would knowingly vote for a candidate who's policy's would do grave harm to every American and think nothing of it as long he/she was Republican

  •  This gives me some hope for my home state... (1+ / 0-)
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    We have a huge pool of extremist lunatics here, but it seems SOME of them are beginning to actually think.

    There may yet be hope for Pennsylvania.

    Thanks for posting this!


    Anger management class really pissed me off.

    by old mark on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 01:49:50 PM PST

  •  2016 should be huge for the Democrats (3+ / 0-)

    Lots of GOP senators in blue states (NH, WI, OH, IL, PA, IA) - and its a presidential year. No Dem senators in red states, with the closest being Colorado.

    If we can minimize losses in 2014, we could regain a 60 seat majority in 2016.

  •  And Appeal To The Catholics (0+ / 0-)

    Santorum seemed to spend his time pandering to the southern fried evangelicals rather than the people that elected him

    Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

    by bernardpliers on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 02:26:34 PM PST

  •  EVERYBODY (0+ / 0-)

    loves the Nittany Lions. If you don't, you might as well call yourself a Samaritan.

    (But I'm listening to Temple Public Radio, WRTI, right now. Temple rocks!)

    Irony takes a worse beating from Republicans than Wile E. Coyote does from Acme. --Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

    by Youffraita on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 03:28:36 PM PST

  •  With Corbett in the dog house (1+ / 0-)
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    How does it look for the Dems to take back the Legislalture in 2014?

    Never be afraid to voice your opinion and fight for it . Corporations aren't people, they're Republicans (Rev Al Sharpton 10/7/2011) Voting is a louder voice than a bullhorn but sometimes you need that bullhorn to retain your vote.

    by Rosalie907 on Wed Nov 27, 2013 at 05:59:17 PM PST

    •  Senate more likely than Assembly (1+ / 0-)
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      Assembly: 110 R vs. 93 D (barely changed between 2010 and 2012)

      Senate: 27 R vs. 23 D

    •  Depends on size of landslide (0+ / 0-)

      I can make an argument that neither are in play or that both are locks depending on the level of landslide that sinks Corbett. The key data points being:

      - what happens after May when we have an actual Democratic Party nominee

      - what the next budget looks like, especially in terms of schools

      - exactly how much damage is done to Corbett when Kane drops the full review of the Sandusky slow-play prosecution next September / October

      The really bad uphill fight for the Democrats is the ridiculous Gerrymander of the PA Senate and PA House that was pushed through recently. Although not a horrific as the US House districts, its a really bad map.

      Hopefully we get strong Dem candidates aligned around a similar anti-Corbett policy platform to capture at least one of the chambers of our legislature. I'll be doing my part to a$$I$t in flipping PA-26 Senate from Republican to Democrat.

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