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It has taken until today for China to react officially to the Russia's sending of troops into the Crimea.  I was curious what China's position would be, since it jealously defends its territorial integrity, including its ultimate authority over Taiwan, which the U.S. recognizes to be part of China, but which the U.S. has periodically indicated it would use military force to defend in the event China attacked (this internationally recognized part of Chinese territory).  

Today, People's Daily , the official newspaper of China's ruling Communist Party, ran several articles outlining the Chinese foreign ministry's official views.

It appears that it will be very difficult for the U.S. or its eastern European allies to get China to take part in any sanctions regime against Russia.  China believes that the U.S. and Europe are at least as much to blame as Russia for the crisis in the Ukraine.

Based on the fact that Russia and Ukraine have deep cultural, historical and economic connections, it is time for Western powers to abandon their Cold War thinking, stop trying to exclude Russia from the political crisis they failed to mediate, and respect Russia's unique role in mapping out the future of Ukraine.

It is quite understandable when Putin said his country retained the right to protect its interests and Russian-speakers living in Ukraine.

Over the decades, Ukraine's population was divided along language barriers with much of western Ukraine advocating closer ties with the European Union (EU) while eastern and southern regions looking to Russia.

Although the EU has made efforts to broker a peace deal between Yanukovych and the opposition in order to solve the crisis, the situation in Ukraine rapidly worsened.

Right now, the West should show more appreciation for what Russia can do to solve the crisis in Ukraine. Given Russia's historical and cultural influence in the country, the Kremlin is the piece that cannot be missing in this political puzzle.

The West should also be honest with the fact that their biased mediation has polarized Ukraine and only made things worse in the country.

China would be a critical piece in any attempt to economically isolate Russia.  China shares a long border with Russia with good sea and rail links.  China produces the kinds of consumer and industrial goods that Russia likes to import, while being a voracious consumer of the oil, gas, timber, minerals and military technology that Russia exports.  

China is not playing it neutral in this, but leans toward, and gives support to, Russia.  This is surprising given China's concerns about western meddling in China's own autonomous province, Taiwan.  

Any attempt to impose harsh sanctions on Russia is likely to drive it more deeply into China's orbit, strengthening the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.  This would be something more for President McCain and Vice President Palin -- and the clown car of WaPo editorial writers -- to kvetch about, but it would also surely be a cost to the U.S. to the extent it sees a stronger China as being an irritant to the U.S.'s trans-Pacific empire.

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  •  They do have Tibet to think of. n/t (5+ / 0-)
    •  And all those hydrocarbons (2+ / 0-)
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      Richard Lyon, la motocycliste

      that Russia can send their way.

      If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

      by AoT on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 05:19:23 PM PST

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    •  And Taiwan, as pointed out below (1+ / 0-)
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      Which is a much better parallel. No one is going to do anything about Tibet.

      If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

      by AoT on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 05:20:29 PM PST

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      •  not really (1+ / 0-)
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        the PRC has never governed taiwan; russia governed ukraine until the early 90s. ukraine doesn't have decades of political ties and defense agreements with the US; taiwan does. ukraine is relatively evenly divided on whether to align with russia; in taiwan, hardly anyone wants to be aligned with (much less governed by) china, the debate there is on how best to manage china politically so it doesn't invade.

        •  The Russian Federation never governed Taiwan (1+ / 0-)
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          But Imperial China certainly did. The large presence of ethnic Chinese Taiwanese was more of the parallel I was looking at though.

          If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

          by AoT on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 06:08:38 AM PST

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          •  the qing dynasty governed the west coast (1+ / 0-)
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            of taiwan before ceding it to japan a few hundred years later, but never controlled the uplands or the east coast, which were always outside the empire's reach. the qing was not a chinese dynasty, but rather ruled by manchus who conquered china; chinese were second-class subjects. qing policy on the island vacillated between prohibiting chinese subjects from settling in taiwan, and encouraging chinese settlement, in a manner analogous to the colonial british government's attempts to prevent american settlers from expanding into the indian frontier and causing problems for them. the pre-1947 population of taiwanese was a mix between the indigenous population and fujianese settlers, with a significant degree of intermarriage. in that sense, they are not unlike colonial mexico's mestizo population.

            the republic of china governed both taiwan and part of china for about three years before fleeing to taiwan. the RoC predates the PRC, and still exists as a regime.

  •  interesting (5+ / 0-)
    It is quite understandable when Putin said his country retained the right to protect its interests and Russian-speakers living in Ukraine.
    this is flatly dishonest, because ukraine's russian-speakers have not been threatened. this isn't just china telling the west that it won't support sanctions, this is china signaling that if the west becomes alienated from russia, china intends to take advantage. not good news.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 04:45:37 PM PST

    •  Not entirely (1+ / 0-)
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      ... because one of the first acts of the new government after the president fled was to repeal the language law, which allowed the Crimean region to use Russian as an official language along with Ukrainian.  The new acting president later vetoed this move, but the veto only happened after everything blew up.

      Military invasion is completely unjustified, but it is wrong to claim that Crimeans didn't feel threatened.

      •  denying official use of a language (0+ / 0-)

        is not exactly a threat.

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 06:01:00 PM PST

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        •  Attacking a people's language is central (3+ / 0-)
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          to almost every conquest of other ethnic groups. Imagine if someone made using English illegal for official business in a US state, it would be huge.

          If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

          by AoT on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 06:55:52 PM PST

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          •  i see (0+ / 0-)

            so keeping the usa officially english is a physical threat to our spanish-speaking people.

            The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

            by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 07:55:01 PM PST

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            •  I didn't know the USA was "officially English." (0+ / 0-)

              Could you cite the relevant law?

              Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

              by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:07:48 PM PST

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              •  meh (0+ / 0-)

                it's de facto nationally, legally in 28 states. maybe someone should invade those states, to protect the minority-language populations.

                The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:14:00 PM PST

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                •  In other words, you can't. (1+ / 0-)
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                  But thanks for playing.

                  Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                  by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:16:19 PM PST

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                  •  thanks for running (0+ / 0-)

                    or are you ready to invade those 28 states, to protect their threatened minority-speaking populations?

                    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                    by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:19:04 PM PST

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                    •  Sorry, I'm a pacifist (0+ / 0-)

                      and don't do invasions.  YMMV.

                      Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                      by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:19:58 PM PST

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                      •  yeah (0+ / 0-)

                        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                        by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:22:04 PM PST

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                        •  Please proceed. :-) n/t (0+ / 0-)

                          Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                          by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:23:40 PM PST

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                          •  sorry to reference (0+ / 0-)

                            your own words.

                            The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                            by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:25:38 PM PST

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                          •  Oh, don't be sorry. (0+ / 0-)

                            I'm rather enjoying the way you choose to misinterpret them.  Obvious sign of desperation on your part. :-)

                            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                            by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:26:58 PM PST

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                          •  yes (0+ / 0-)

                            claiming to be a pacifist right after setting acceptable terms for an invasion is but a misinterpretation

                            The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                            by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:29:56 PM PST

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                          •  there you go again. :-) n/t (0+ / 0-)

                            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                            by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:30:47 PM PST

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                          •  now you're quoting reagan (0+ / 0-)

                            i can live with that.

                            The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                            by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:31:57 PM PST

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                          •  it seems to be a language (0+ / 0-)

                            you can understand.  

                            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                            by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:34:16 PM PST

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                          •  perhaps you should revisit (0+ / 0-)

                            the context of his usage.

                            The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                            by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:36:05 PM PST

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                          •  I could; but given the high regard (0+ / 0-)

                            in which Our Party's Leader holds the Fortieth President, perhaps it's you who should get with the program. ;-)))))

                            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                            by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:38:43 PM PST

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                          •  i guess this once again is all about obama (0+ / 0-)

                            well, i agree with you about his admiration of reagan. what i find fascinating is how some see every nation's internal issues only as a function of american policy. which reagan probably would have enjoyed.

                            The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                            by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:50:15 PM PST

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                          •  No, it's not all about Obama (0+ / 0-)

                            whose name you scandalously lowercase.  He's only the latest symptom.  A better question is why other nations' internal affairs are a function of American policy at all.

                            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                            by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:56:36 PM PST

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                          •  which gets back to a point i've been making (0+ / 0-)

                            which is that from venezuela to ukraine to europe's reaction to putin's invasion of the crimea... the world seems to be going about its business without our help.

                            The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                            by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 09:00:31 PM PST

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                          •  much to our chagrin (0+ / 0-)

                            but it's a rare sign of hope.

                            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                            by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 09:03:46 PM PST

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                          •  a lot of people (0+ / 0-)

                            on a lot of different sides of a lot of political issues are having trouble accepting it, or even recognizing it.

                            The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                            by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 09:10:12 PM PST

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                •  oh, and if invasion (0+ / 0-)

                  were the only means of ensuring minority rights, I can't say I'd be opposed.  

                  Hmm, how about Native American rights?

                  Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                  by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:19:06 PM PST

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                  •  i see (0+ / 0-)

                    so invading crimea was the only way to protect the crimean majority population because their language wasn't officially recognized. or something.

                    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                    by Laurence Lewis on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:20:42 PM PST

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                    •  Unlike you (0+ / 0-)

                      I can't claim to know absolute right in the matter.  I know only enough to say that you're wrong. :-)

                      Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

                      by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:21:38 PM PST

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            •  Seriously? Have you missed the right wing (0+ / 0-)

              racist movement to make English the official language? Have you missed the physical threats that have gone along with that movement? And outlawing the use of Spanish in official government use would be devastating to the Spanish speaking population.

              If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

              by AoT on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 05:47:02 AM PST

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  •  You mean above (1+ / 0-)
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    This is NOT surprising given China's concerns about western meddling in China's own autonomous province, Taiwan.  

    Yes?

    "If you tell the truth, you'll eventually be found out." Mark Twain

    by Steven D on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 04:56:48 PM PST

    •  No (0+ / 0-)

      I mean it is surprising that China isn't being harsh on Russia.  Russia meddling in the Crimea is similar to U.S. meddling in Taiwan.

      This aggression will not stand, man.

      by kaleidescope on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 05:38:41 PM PST

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      •  Not really, given that (1+ / 0-)
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        svboston

        the Crimea is majoritry-Russian, transferred from the RSFSR to the Ukrainians SSR only in 1954.  Is Taiwan ethnically American?

        Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

        by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:10:19 PM PST

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        •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

          I'm talking about China's (and Ukraine's) interest in having other countries (U.S., Russia) respect territorial integrity.  

          China sat back and didn't lift a finger when the Suharto military coup (with CIA and University of California backing) conducted a pogrom in Indonesia, massacring almost half a million ethnic Chinese.

          The way I read China's position vis a vis Ukraine is that it wants a diplomatic solution that will provide guarantees to the ethnic Russians living in the Ukraine, as well as respect for Russia's sphere of influence in the area.  In return, Ukraine gets to keep its territory.

          China does not want war there and it doesn't want Ukraine partitioned, but it will not single out Russia as the villain and it will not participate in isolating Russia politically or economically.

          The other recent focus in People's Daily is Chinese resentment that the U.S. is refusing to call the attack at the Kunming train station a "terrorist attack", even though even Japan and India are calling it that, and even though China gave the U.S. major support in the wake of 911.

          The U.S. is not playing its China hand very well.

          This aggression will not stand, man.

          by kaleidescope on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:30:24 PM PST

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          •  No major power (0+ / 0-)

            respects anyone's territorial integrity.

            China doesn't; Russia doesn't; we don't either.

            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

            by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:35:15 PM PST

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            •  Sure They Do (0+ / 0-)

              They all respect their own territorial integrity, as well as that of other nations they don't have any current plans to invade.

              They all believe in democracy and human rights too.  Those are things they try to inflict on their enemies and protect their friends from.

              This aggression will not stand, man.

              by kaleidescope on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 10:09:48 PM PST

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  •  Shorter China: (10+ / 0-)

    "We're also an autocratic nation of kleptocrats that likes to annex territories adjacent to us, so we don't really see a problem with what Russia is doing."

    Unless Russia does it near them, of course.

    "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

    by Lawrence on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 04:59:30 PM PST

    •  Mongolia maybe next (2+ / 0-)
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      Most of Mongolia's exports are minerals and resources to China, and with climate change, more rural Chinese are moving northward. The economic ties and movement of the countries and people will change that region as people expand north.

      It maybe some decades, but I'd expect most of Mongolia, and a good chunk of Siberia, to have ethnic Chinese.

      •  Since Inner Mongolia has already been (1+ / 0-)
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        successfully incorporated and Outer Mongolia only has a small population, it may be hard for China's leaders to resist their inner urges that resemble the American belief of manifest destiny back in the 19th Century.

        So I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that happening at some point in the future.

        "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

        by Lawrence on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 05:18:40 PM PST

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        •  Except that the Chinese ... (1+ / 0-)
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          ... don't have a record of sending troops into other countries all over the world, unlike a certain country we all know that claims an entire hemisphere as its sphere of influence.

          •  they do have a long history (2+ / 0-)
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            of sending armies into bordering countries, most recently Vietnam less than 40 years ago.

          •  that, and (outer) Mongolia (0+ / 0-)

            has traditionally been allied with Russia.

            Chinese aren't taking Tuva (which both it and Taiwan officially claim) anytime soon either.

            Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

            by corvo on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 08:11:50 PM PST

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          •  Nope, they just have a long history of annexing (0+ / 0-)

            or attempting to annex bordering territories and countries.

            Inner Mongolia, Tibet, the Paracel Islands, The West Philippine/South China Sea, their border war with the Soviet Union, their war with Vietnam, etc.....

            "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

            by Lawrence on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 03:12:09 AM PST

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      •  It's Honolulu...... (1+ / 0-)
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        .....I'm concerned about.

        If you hate government, don't run for office in that government.

        by Bensdad on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 05:28:02 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  asdf (0+ / 0-)
          “Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown”.

          I'm a Vietnam Era vet. I'm also an Erma Bombeck Era vet. When cussing me out and calling me names please indicate which vet you would like to respond to your world changing thoughts.

          by Just Bob on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 06:07:23 PM PST

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    •  More like (3+ / 0-)
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      "We are happy that one of our major trade rivals is going to be negatively impacted by this almost certainly."

      And let's be fair, this is how the US got most of it's territory, and we're not giving any of it back.

      If knowledge is power and power corrupts, does that mean that knowledge corrupts?

      by AoT on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 05:22:54 PM PST

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  •  Why would China allign itself with the West in a (2+ / 0-)
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    response against its BRICS partner?

  •  "The West" did not patriate Crimea to Ukraine. (5+ / 0-)

    Russia did.

    I would advise the Chinese explain their sympathies for "cultural, historical and economic connections" in Xinjiang.

    I live under the bridge to the 21st Century.

    by Crashing Vor on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 05:01:29 PM PST

    •  No, the Soviet Union did (4+ / 0-)
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      Specifically, Nikita Kruschev, a Ukrainian, did.

      Yes, the Chinese are full of it.  But so are we.

    •  Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia and Tibet (0+ / 0-)

      These areas have been part of China -- and recognized internationally as such --  much longer than California has been part of the United States.  Indeed, much longer than any state has been part of the United States.

      China has better legal claim to Xinjiang and Tibet than the United States has to Hawaii, California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, or western Colorado, all of which were taken by conquest from Mexico.  China certainly has a better claim to Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia and Tibet than Israel has to any land in the Middle East.  Better claim than Poland has to what was once East Prussia, Farther Pomerania, East Brandenburg and Lower Selisia.  And better claim than Ukraine has to that part of Ukraine that was until 1939 part of Poland.  

      America was built by stealing other peoples' land and either exterminating or subjugating them.

      This aggression will not stand, man.

      by kaleidescope on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 10:36:54 PM PST

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      •  Having Cherokee ancestors myself, (0+ / 0-)

        I won't disagree with you about the U.S. being built on conquest.

        That doesn't mean I'd make absurd, fundamentally-absurd claims about China having some sort of great claim to Tibet.

        You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to make that claim, tbh.

        "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

        by Lawrence on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 03:27:00 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  Could the new axis of power be... (0+ / 0-)

    ....any clearer? China and Russia have all but formed a formal Alliance.

    Sanctions aren't going to work against Russia. We cannot confront them militarily without risking WW4.

    I am quite sure when China seizes the islands it is claiming in the Phillipines, Japan and Vietnam that Russia will support the Chinese move.

    Russia in Eastern Europe; China nibbling a the Western Pacific. Fasten your seatbelts -- it's going to be (yet another)  bumpy century.

    If you hate government, don't run for office in that government.

    by Bensdad on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 05:26:32 PM PST

  •  taiwan is not an autonomous province (1+ / 0-)
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    the regime there predates the people's republic, and is a separate regime entirely, with its own airline, beer, flag and army.

    tibet, inner mongolia, and xinjiang are "autonomous" provinces of china. taiwan is an entirely different regime.

    but yeah, that's why china leans towards russia here. it does not want to see a precedent of an invading force trying to occupy another country being forced to back down.

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