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And especially those in the public food service industry, very public as to fast foods.

Remember this: Papa John's CEO Says 'Obamacare' Will Up Pizza Price. The threats to the public and the low wage workers employed, cutting full time to part time and more. Workers coming to work even when they don't feel good, how about sick days to go along with Health Insurance, placing the public served in possible harms way from contracting an illness thus needing Health Care facilities themselves.

Well this is what can happen:

Manager at Charlotte pizza restaurant tests positive for Hepatitis

Apr 11, 2014 - Health officials in Mecklenburg and Cabarrus counties are holding special vaccination clinics Friday afternoon because of a potential health risk in a Charlotte-area restaurant.

A worker at the Papa John's Pizza at 8016-B Cambridge Commons Drive has been diagnosed with Hepatitis A.

During a press conference on Thursday evening, officials said the employee was a manager at the Papa John's restaurant who contracted Hepatitis A while traveling out of the country.

Doctor Marcus Plescia, Mecklenburg County's Health Director, said the worker returned to Charlotte, became ill and was hospitalized. Health officials say the employee last worked on April 7th, and was diagnosed with Hepatitis A on either April 7th or 8th.

County health officials say they were notified Thursday morning, and started working with State public health officials.

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Mecklenburg health officials say they're concerned because "it's a pizza place so even more people are getting food there than your average restaurant."

Jeremy Bell is angry. He said he and his family had a pizza night with food from that Papa John's.

"And now I gotta to go to the doctor and take my family to the doctor" said Bell. "And no telling how many other people."

County officials say they don't know exactly how many customers could have been exposed. It's estimated about 2400 orders were handled at that Papa John's during the time the infected worker was there.  read more w.video report>>>

So, who pays now for the Health workers and clinics being set up and for the special vaccinations to possibly hundreds of customers and their families, with any other attached direct costs, and how about others any customers came in contact with, like the kids in the schools, Poppa Johns?

Doubt they'll get any bill for all of this that now will take place.

How about any of the customers, others, that might already have been sick and sought out emergency care if they didn't have Health Care insurance. Or if they did have insurance they had to take time off, as they should have so as not to infect others, after visiting their doctors, do they have paid sick days.

Conservatives love using the word 'offsets' as to needed Government spending, which wasn't in their vocabulary when they controlled the whole Federal Government, also not in any State Government, when they want spending for the issues they push into law, all of which have monatary costs to implement.  Like especially after quickly abandoning the missions and troops after 9/11 to further rubber stamp war costs with no-bid private contracts, even quickly building an open contract private merc army, and keep all those costs off the public debt books till executive administrations changed hands.

Where are the Corporate 'offsets' for needed business costs? What was it, something like charging the public 0.14 more a pizza, as to Poppa Johns, to afford giving their low paid, already, Health Insurance they can't afford themselves.

Not a word, and not only Poppa Johns, as to 'offsetting' top Executives, often multi millions, Compensation and tax writeoff perks or the Corporate perks and writeoffs the businesses they run get, it wouldn't take much of that to afford the Insurance nor frankly to give employee's, working hard and trying to maintain that high standard of customer service, for the successful business models and investor returns, regular raises and a few other perks as outstanding employee's, Respect. You can bet, that's what businesses do, there are a couple of cents added into that fourteen cents that are heading to the bottomline profits and not to actual costs of, in this case, employee health coverage.

This isn't just about Poppa Johns, but Papa John's CEO John Schnatter did make a huge amount of noise as to the Affordable Care Act. This is about many of the businesses and public gatherings in our economy and lives and what happens and who pays, in many ways.

Originally posted to jimstaro on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 06:30 AM PDT.

Also republished by Obamacare Saves Lives and Community Spotlight.

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  •  this has been their standard excuse for 100 years (22+ / 0-)

    They weeped and cried "we can't afford it boo hoo hoo!" about everything from banning child labor to environmental regulations to workplace safety to minimum wages.

    If you took their weeping and crying seriously, you'd wonder how ANY of them are still in business and why they didn't ALL go fucking broke 50 years ago.  (yawn)

    In the end, reality always wins.

    by Lenny Flank on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 06:51:11 AM PDT

    •  I wrote the other day (11+ / 0-)

      about how on the way to work, I drive past two dozen light manufacturing firms. How is it possible they're still in business in 2014? They're not making as much money as they would if they moved overseas, but the owners are still doing well for themselves.

      I'm living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country. It's just a business.

      by CFAmick on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 08:27:25 AM PDT

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    •  While We're On The Subject of the AHA... (1+ / 0-)
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      thanatokephaloides

      Can someone/anyone here help me sort out the numbers?

      According to now-unemployed Kathleen Sebelius, 7.5 million people who were previously uninsured have now got health insurance thanks to the ACA. Which is not the same as getting healthcare, the thing a sick person actually needs rather than insurance, but I do digress. I will assume the folks needing care amongst those 7.5 million have seen or will soon see a doctor.

      But during Obama's first term, I distinctly remember hearing various news reports about "46 million Americans without health insurance". (If you don't recall those stories, here's a link: http://www.npr.org/...) So 46 minus 7.5  still leaves a whopping 38.5 million Americans uninsured, even under Obamacare.

      How is the White House accounting for those folks? Or is the WH ignoring them?

      Oddly enough, the Republicans haven't mentioned those unaccounted-for people either, so they aren't using them to dis Obamacare. But has the administration offered any explanation as to what their current healthcare status is? Or did they all get sick and die between 2009 & now?

      I'm not being facetious here. I'm not thrilled with the ACA, but I believe it's done more harm than good for folks who had no insurance, therefore no access to medical treatment, before. But I refuse to go around crowing about  Obamacare and trying to explain to people I know why it's a good deal if nobody can account for nearly 39 million folks it was supposed to cover but clearly has not.

      •  The 7.5 million is w/o the few million who (16+ / 0-)

        now can get medicaid that couldn't before in about half the states.  That Obama can't expand it more is the result of the Supreme Court decision allowing them to opt out of Medicaid at the increased funding levels.  The 7.5 million is also strictly for the exchanges.  Several thousands went directly to providers and those numbers haven't been reported, that I know of.  Also, that number doesn't include young adults now covered by their parent's non-exchange policies.

        You should read up about the billions extra allocated to the community health clinics that expand services to those without a policy.  That directly helps those you're talking about.  

        A healthier country, even if it has had a rocky start is, imo, better for everyone.  I can't see your conclusion that it's harming people.  The only ones I've heard who are being harmed are people in red states where the money that used to come to rural areas to ensure hospitals remained open isn't coming because the Medicaid expansion money was supposed to replace it.  That the money isn't being replaced is entirely on the red state governments.  Not Obamacare.

        •  There are other reasons too... (1+ / 0-)
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          There are people like my brother who just got offered a full-time job at the place he was working part-time and he can get health insurance through them.  The problem is this: He can't get Obamacare since he can get insurance at work.  Ok, but there's more to it and here's the kicker!  This new job he's taking barely pays him enough to live off of, so he probably won't be able to afford his company's insurance.  And I know you're thinking, "Well then, he can go on the exchange", right?  Well, technically, he can, but if he does use the exchange, he won't qualify for the tax credits he'd need to be able to pay for it because he can get health insurance at his work!  He can't win!!  

          BTW, I found this all out because I wanted to know if my husband and I could go on the exchange and drop his company insurance because it's horse shit.  We pay 20% of; clinic visits, hospital care, urgent care, and we pay $10-$25 per prescription.  AND we have to pay the "family" rate even though it's just him and me!  It's a total rip-off!

          So, there are people out there, like my brother, who can't afford their work insurance, can't afford the exchange prices and don't qualify for Medicaid.  I'm guessing there's ALOT of people like him out there and I bet that's a big chunk of your missing numbers.

          If Obama wouldn't have caved to the Repubtards and T-bag dumbasses, more people would be covered.  I'm getting really tired of him always cowtowing to those idiots and screwing over the people that need the most help.  I didn't want to vote for him, but he was the lesser of two evils and I could NOT vote for that dork Mitt whats-his-faces.....  

          "Jesus was my Co-pilot until we crashed, then I ate him."

          by GirlSwimmingInASeaOfRed on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 06:02:31 PM PDT

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          •  I opted out of the health insurance at work (7+ / 0-)

            and qualified for insurance through the exchange.  I opted out because, for some reason, my insurance premium via work was going up AGAIN.  Even with my employer providing a big chunk of change toward the premium, my portion was over 9.5% of my W-2 wages, so I qualified for ACA with no subsidies.  My employer diverted what he was paying toward my insurance to my salary, which helps -  I lose the pre-tax benefit but I'm still better off, with a comparable plan that's cheaper.  And I'd rather the extra taxes go to the government than that the effing insurance company sees another dime of mine.  Hopefully things will smoothe out even more once the employer participation component kicks in, either later this year or in 2015.

        •  I say it's done more harm than good... (0+ / 0-)

          ...precisely because of folks like GirlSwimming's brother. If you're unemployed in a blue state, you can get Medicaid thanks to the ACA, which is great. But if you get a shitty job that barely pays enough to make ends meet, no matter where you live, you'll lose Medicaid coverage when you start working AND you won't qualify for the ACA tax credit because the ceiling is apparently very low, barely above min. wage. And THAT kick in the teeth seems like it was no accident. But if you refuse to buy insurance for yourself, eventually, the feds will fine you.

          I'm not hating on Obama just to be a jackass. I voted for him the first time -- after that, I swore off voting in presidential elections ever again. But the harder I look at the ACA, the less impressed I am. It seems as though the program was a scheme designed to actually cover as few of the people most in need of healthcare people as possible, which is bullshit.

          Since the ACA took effect, we've had a few million recent college grads who can't find jobs because we're in a recession. Thanks to Obamacare, their parents are able to insure them until they turn 26, which is a good deal. The insurance companies are happy to have them since they're young & healthy. (But does anyone know how much extra per month that coverage is costing those parents? I haven't seen numbers cited anywhere for that.) The majority of working people who have health insurance through their employer weren't impacted by the ACA (which accounts for the largest number of Americans). And poor, unemployed folks with no kids can now get Medicaid thanks to the ACA, also a good thing.

          But THEN the WH announced that companies with more than 50 employees don't have to offer health insurance until 2016. Which means vampire squid corporations like WalMart, the nation's largest employer, get to keep paying their workers shit wages, keep offering no insurance for "part-time" staffers while forcing state assistance programs to pick up the tab for their workers' healthcare. Which is NOT how Obamacare was supposed to work.

          First Obama caved on a single-payer plan, which was a promise he campaigned on back in 2007. Then after the ACA passed, he let big businesses off the hook & small business too, until 2016 -- When He'll Be Gone! Yet he didn't push back the individual mandate until 2016. And if a Republican prez wins next time, Obamacare will get repealed altogether. So then what happens to the folks who got Medicaid through the ACA or tax credits through the exchanges?

          Between now & 2016, if you remove all the people like GirlSwimming's brother who got no benefit from the ACA & the folks who already had coverage at work & aren't using the ACA, who will Obamacare really have helped? Only unemployed folks who were able to get Medicaid, a couple of million unemployed young adults under 26 & the people with pre-existing conditions who couldn't get coverage before.

          But what does that add up to in terms of real numbers? Nowhere near 38.5 million, I'll bet. The biggest beneficiary of the ACA seems to be the insurance companies.

      •  Call Your State (7+ / 0-)


        Legislators and even the Gov's, especially if (T)'s, oops they once were (R)'s and only a few decades back!!!!!!!

        I'm not thrilled with the ACA, but I believe it's done more harm than good for folks who had no insurance, therefore no access to medical treatment, before.
        Mainly because you haven't a clue as to what went on and is still going on!!

        "If military action is worth our troops' blood, it should be worth our treasure, too; not just in the abstract, but in the form of a specific ante by every American." -Andrew Rosenthal 10 Feb. 2013

        by jimstaro on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 04:15:58 AM PDT

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      •  has the ACA harmed you or anyone your know? (12+ / 0-)

        It has gotten me coverage since due to a preexisting condition I was uninsurable. Please explain to me how that is more harm than good. How would you know that the ACA has done more harm than good in any case? Got some statistics? And if you do where did they come from?

        I love people like you that have no personal experience with the good that the ACA has done for so many people and you say "I believe it's done more harm that good". Your beliefs don't mean squat. Give us some hard facts and numbers that back up your beliefs. And please make sure they come from someplace like the CBO or another non-teabagger or non-faux noise source. A source that doesn't make stuff up.

      •  One of those 38 million is my son. (9+ / 0-)

        He is unemployed, has no health insurance, livesl in Florida which doesn't have an exchange and therefore, isn't qualified for Medicaid.  He is single, so ineligible for medicaid.  He also has diabetes and needs treatment but can't get it.  So his diabetes will worsen, he will develope heart and kidney trouble and will end up costing even more for care.  So to save a few dollars, we will end up paying more.  That is how it works.

        •  Exactly. (5+ / 0-)

          Twenty four states [last time I checked that's almost half of them] refused to expand Medicaid even though the Fed would have paid the whole tab for the first 15 [I think, not certain as to the exact number] years.  And even after that, the Fed will subsidize the states that expand it.

          But Rick Scott is in the Koch brothers' back pocket where he keeps himself busy kissing the fabric that covers their asses.  

          When he took office he kiboshed the light rail between Tampa and Orlando.  It had been voted on by the people and had already been started to the tune of a few million.  But hey, the Koch brothers' oil company would have suffered if people could take public transport between the two cities.  And tourists who would have come to Busch Gardens from Disney World won't now because it's too much trouble.  So much for that source of revenue which our state could certainly use.

          And Scott, is on record as wanting to make sure that "those people" [anyone who is not filthy rich like himself] get nothing.  That's why he implemented drug testing folks who get Welfare.  He planned to force those who failed the test to pay for it themselves and then to kick them off the rolls.  It was supposed to save the state money.  Never mind the fact that 2/3 of the people on Welfare are children.  Rick won't let a little detail like that deter him from destroying lives.
          And, guess what?  Turns out that only 2% of those tested failed the test.  So the state had to pick up the tab for  thousands of tests and the Welfare rolls did not decrease.  And all this cost the state $2 million.

          Way to save, Rick!

          And now, simply to deny Obama a win [never mind the other people who would have benefited - - they're THOSE people, after all!] Rick is costing the state a lot of money because he refused to expand Medicaid.

          These are just a few of the reasons his approval rating hovers around 30%.

          The price of apathy is to be ruled by evil men - - Plato . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . We must be the change we wish to see in the world - - Mohandas Gandhi

          by twocrows1023 on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 07:28:10 PM PDT

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        •  chickenfarmer (0+ / 0-)

          I just looked up Florida Health Exchange. There is an exchange in Florida, in fact, they are SECOND in the nation for the number of people who have signed up for the ACA Exchange, number one is California. So are you speaking of Medicaid not exchanges? If so your state isn't the only one who didn't expand Medicaid. Mine didn't either and "kicked off" all people who don't have children. We now have about 80,000 people who had medicaid before who don't have it now.

      •  7 million is only the start (5+ / 0-)

        The final number is going to closer to 22+ million. That 7mil is only healthcare.gov. There are more last minute enrollments coming in from the state-run exchanges like CA, NY, & KY... there are also the ongoing enrollments into Medicaid, and all the new enrollments OFF the exchanges for people who enrolled directly with a carrier because they don't qualify for a tax credit, which is around 9mil.

        GOP heads are really going to explode.

      •  Texas has the most (5+ / 0-)

        that didn't benefit because Medicare wasn't allowed to expand

        support better pre-natal health care coverage for women and support education for boys which teaches them to respect women

        by tubaguy on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 04:27:44 PM PDT

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    •  Ah Lenny (1+ / 0-)
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      thanatokephaloides

      I'll be replacin' Barbara Lee,
      and jes' let you speak for me..

    •  Exactly (5+ / 0-)

      If your business model requires labor, but fails to produce the revenue to pay that labor, then your business model is broken.

    •  The very idea (4+ / 0-)

      of MILLIONAIRES & BILLIONAIRES being unable to afford something has GOT to be the absolute, most incredibly STUPID LIE ever uttered.

  •  privatize the profits (20+ / 0-)

    socialize the costs.  The public at large must subsidize the millions that the 1%ers make in the fast food industry, housing, food, health care, and any public health menaces that happen to arise.

    •  Reason (12+ / 0-)


      Conservatives want to 'privatize' much of the government, if not all, for corporate profits!

      Their goal has never been 'smaller government' but much larger and very costly, many are seeing that with tax cuts implemented that are now paying fee's, much more then their so called tax burdens they contribute, the masses not the wealthy or the corporations, we pay for their needs and wants in a society.

      Example of another local story and what happens when you turn over what should be public, with accountability ingrain in government, to private corporations for profit, with little to no accountability, it costs big time!! And we've been seeing that consistantly in many area's, war, NSA intelligence gathering, National Security backround checks, Health Care websites with four years to build a product and their stocks go Up when they roll out the disastrous product, just to name a few!!

      Tega Cay City Council Votes To Purchase Troubled Utility Company

      On Tuesday night, the Tega Cay city council voted to purchase private sewage-treatment plants that have been regularly polluting Lake Wylie in York County, South Carolina with raw sewage – and the price tag is nearly $6 million.
      You can find these all over the country and we've been catching on a National scale now for years!!

      "If military action is worth our troops' blood, it should be worth our treasure, too; not just in the abstract, but in the form of a specific ante by every American." -Andrew Rosenthal 10 Feb. 2013

      by jimstaro on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 07:01:35 AM PDT

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      •  It's like Game of Thrones (9+ / 0-)

        The ruling class has their own armies, their own courts of law, their own banks, but the serfs are on their own, and at the mercy of each other, and roving bands of outlaws that have the backing of the ruling class.

        We'll see exactly how well small government works in the future, when you become sick at McDonald's, or purchase 24 packs of Coke to sell individually, or want consumer choice in the telecom market.

        I'm living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country. It's just a business.

        by CFAmick on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 08:34:25 AM PDT

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        •  Too bad Game of Thrones... (5+ / 0-)

          ...and the Song of Fire and Ice were inspired by medieval English history, otherwise we'd get to see what happens when a bunch of dirt-poor farmers and herders get pushed too far by the 1%ers.

          Three guys met in a mountain pasture in 1307, the Eidgenossen, the oath-takers.

          Their oath, the Rütlischwur...

          We want to be a single People of brethren,
          Never to part in danger nor distress.
          We want to be free, as our fathers were,
          And rather die than live in slavery.
          We want to trust in the one highest God
          And never be afraid of human power.
          Their first army consisted of guys so poor, they couldn't afford armor, who crafted their weapons from farm implements. This rag-tag army fucked up every 1%er army sent to conquer them. They became the ultimate bad asses of the Middle Ages.

          This wasn't a one-off, either, they dominated the battlefields of medieval Europe for 200 years. They kept their freedom until the time of Napoleon, almost 500 years.

          Hard to believe these bad ass farmers turned into a bunch of boring bankers.  Yeah, I'm talking about the Swiss.

          But it happened more than once.  Who could have predicted that a bunch of poor swamp dwellers who fled to the swamps in fear of feudal robber barons would unite to form the Most Serene Republic, Venice. It existed for a thousand years.  Free cities, guilds, farmers, all over continental Europe, took up arms to protect themselves from the 1%.

          Gotta give a shout-out to San Marino, the world's oldest republic. Founded by a stone cutter in 300 CE, still kicking today.

          Join Essa in a revolt against the gods. Continue the fight, Causality.

          by rbird on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 07:35:57 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, when we hear the word privatize, we can (13+ / 0-)

        be sure we are going to be ripped off one way or another - either through lower wages, fewer benefits, more dangerous working conditions, worse service, more pollution, and all for higher costs.

        “The future depends entirely on what each of us does every day.” Gloria Steinem

        by ahumbleopinion on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 01:24:34 PM PDT

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      •  Congress has been trying (3+ / 0-)

        to privatize the Post Office for years.  They've put draconian measures in place that ensure it is drowning in red ink then point fingers and say, "See?  Government can't do anything right!  Let the market fix it!"

        Then the cost of receiving mail will skyrocket and, dollars to doughnuts, the taxes we used to pay for mail delivery won't go away.

        The price of apathy is to be ruled by evil men - - Plato . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . We must be the change we wish to see in the world - - Mohandas Gandhi

        by twocrows1023 on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 07:33:53 PM PDT

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  •  No mention of Papa John's political advocacy (11+ / 0-)

    The linked news story is thorough, but it doesn't help people connect the dots between anti-healthcare advocacy and public health problem.

    Healthcare might or might not have help prevent this episode -- the story doesn't say whether the worker was uninsured -- but the political irony is rich.

    Thanks for the diary.

    •  Will (4+ / 0-)

      Health Care Insurance for everyone prevent these incidents, probably not, but the cost to tax payers from will go down as the numbers f them also go down. And if these wa over the top extremely wealthy corps actually did the 'trickle down' we once had, regular raises, Respect, for the good work and doing what requested and more for the employer, along with paid sick days, these types of incidents wouldn't fall into the lap of the tax payer, pretty much eliminated, and would become extremely rare!!

      "If military action is worth our troops' blood, it should be worth our treasure, too; not just in the abstract, but in the form of a specific ante by every American." -Andrew Rosenthal 10 Feb. 2013

      by jimstaro on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 12:15:35 PM PDT

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    •  Even if insured, many do not stay home when ill (8+ / 0-)

      THIS is the problem, especially in food service. With no paid sick leave, most low paid workers come in unless they literally cannot walk.

  •  I've already boycotted his crappy pizza (8+ / 0-)

    Much better pizzas from local chains anyway.

  •  Send that greedy arrogant bastard Schnatter (9+ / 0-)

    the entire bill.

    Fucking outrageous. This is what happens. How many times must it be pointed out what a hazard to the general population exists when millions can't take care of simple, preventative medical maintenance.

    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

    by lunachickie on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 01:14:42 PM PDT

  •  I know that I can't afford to eat Pizza (10+ / 0-)

    Served by Unhealthy workers who don't have health care.

    Voters should select people to represent them in their government. People in government should not select people who may vote!

    by NM Ray on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 01:15:53 PM PDT

  •  Schnatter is certainly one of the more horrible (4+ / 0-)

    of the CEOs of the fast food industry. It would be nice if there was a way for his workers to bring a class-action law suit against him, forcing him to pay for health insurance. I don't believe I've ever had any of his nasty pizza and for certain I never will. Not after this Hepatitis case. What a great reason for not eating out. Thanks, Schnatter!

  •  they should have all been boycotting (1+ / 0-)
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    like the rest of us did.

  •  Justice (3+ / 0-)

    Maybe those affected ill or not should sue Ploppa's in the John. And make it Sooooo expensive Papa will realize very quickly the cost of doing business with sick employees can be more expensive than insuring them.

  •  Nice correlation. (4+ / 0-)

    Funny, though, how providing a living wage (which includes decent health insurance) always translates into raising prices or cutting hours and jobs for these CEOs, never into cutting the outrageous salaries and profits enjoyed by themselves and their top management.

  •  This Is The Result (2+ / 0-)
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    of the actions of conservative haters. As far as conservatives are concerned health care and having enough food to eat are privileges reserved for those who can afford it. If you can't afford health care you'll simply have to become ill or die.

  •  insurance? yes- paid leave ? not so much (0+ / 0-)

    I agree everyone should have access to health care but to attach paid sick leave is wrong. I am a proud progressive democrat but we are going too far when we start talking about forcing businesses to pay people who do not put in a day's work. common sense

  •  Boycott Papa Johns (4+ / 0-)

    I have been on a campaign to get Groupon to drop coupons to Papa Johns from its list of discounting business with no success.  Not buying the coupons will send the same message.

  •  The GOtP (1+ / 0-)
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    portlandzoo

    I guess when the GOtP thinks they have milked us for all we are worth they'll consider the needs of The American People, and the nation in which they have made their fortunes.

    In the mean time they should put a leash on their bigots.

    No country can be both ignorant and free - Thomas Jefferson

    by fjb on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 08:41:48 PM PDT

  •  Another reason (0+ / 0-)

    to boycott papa johns, which actually isn't good anyway. Have you seen the house, I should say compound, this guy shatner lives in? check it out and then tell me he can't afford it...

  •  Boo Hoo (1+ / 0-)
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    portlandzoo

    They moan and groan and whine ,but I have no idea what their plans are for anything. Probably because they have no plans unless the Koch Brothers, Adelson, and the Americans for Prosperity (for a few ) tell them.

  •  I haven't been to a Papa John's since (0+ / 0-)

    they started all this crap about Obamacare.

    Now, they are off my list PERMANENTLY, and I will make sure that every person I come into contact with knows how screwed up they are.

  •  EVERYONE SHOULD BOYCOTT PAPA JOHNS! (1+ / 0-)
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    enufenuf

    Schnatter is a right-wing extremist who enjoys rubbing elbows with the Koch boys (and celebs in his commercials) when not in his private castle while crying about the cost of doing business.  Typically, even his calculations on the added cost of one of his pizzas was a gross exaggeration.  No pizza is worth putting a dime into his pockets.

  •  Obamacare should never have been passed (0+ / 0-)

    I guess the op didn't know that papa could have taken a fat check from 'Buma and planning should be done on the margin.

  •  Be sure to try ... (0+ / 0-)

    ... our new Hepatitis Bread, available ONLY at Papa John's!

    OF COURSE the New Right is wrong - but that doesn't make WRONG the new RIGHT!

    by mstaggerlee on Mon Apr 14, 2014 at 09:56:28 AM PDT

  •  Dude, use spellcheck! (0+ / 0-)

    Papa is not spelled with an O.  Goes to credibility.

  •  Be prepared for more cases like this (0+ / 0-)

    It isn't just take out Pizza places, virtually all restaurants have food-prep, dish washers, bus-boys, bar-backs, etc who don't get sick days or enough pay for medicine but handle your food, drinks, dishes and utensils.  Obamacare does not require these people to get insurance - they can pay a modest fee and and go without.

    With the occasional e coli outbreaks, common food poisonings, and low-quality food - I am surprised there are still so many restaurants (counting fast food).  

    -- illegitimi non carborundum

    by BadBoyScientist on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 10:21:33 AM PDT

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