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This is Purina's higher end line of dry dog foods, Purina One Smartblend, several various names, similar product, and I would not recommend them to anyone...

http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/...

Most of the ingredients are junk. Several and possibly dangerous for dogs health. the one good point of these dry foods is that Purina's other foods are worse...Some contain rather large amounts of sugar and propylene glycol as "sweeteners".

I do not recommend anything made by Purina.

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  •  good to know. Our dog has to be on prescription... (3+ / 0-)

    Dog food now after 11 years. Was on the purina line before. Age changes things for dogs just like for people.

    Republicans only care about themselves, their money, & their power.

    by jdmorg on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 05:58:55 AM PDT

  •  I WAS using it (3+ / 0-)
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    wader, white blitz, Creosote

    until about four months ago, when my dog decided she didn't like it anymore. Switched to Pedigree -- which is rated even lower! Thanks for the tip about that site, I'll do some research and try to find something well rated that she will eat.

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    by peacearena on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 06:06:54 AM PDT

  •  Don't know if I agree with their analysis (15+ / 0-)

    First let me say, I'm going to be comparing this to similar price points of dog food.  Obviously if you want to spend twice as much you'll probably get a better product.

    Let me first take exception with their first paragraph:

    The first ingredient in this dog food is beef. Although it’s a quality item, raw beef contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lost, reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

    After processing, this item would probably account for a smaller part of the total content of the finished product.

    As I understand it, the ingredients list reflects the final product in the bag (dry food), not the product before it was prepared (wet food cooked down to dry, as they suggest).

    In this light, the first ingredient being beef is a very good thing, it means that the most abundant ingredient in the DRY food is beef.  If you compare to other "average" dog foods, you'll find that this is probably pretty rare (we did the analysis for cat foods, and Purina One was pretty much the only one where meat was the first ingredient).

    Next, they take exception to the grain in there.  Fine, dogs and cats aren't really supposed to be eating grains.  But consider this: , the percentage of grains in this product is comparatively lower since they are not the first ingredient.

    They also take exception with the inclusion of poultry byproduct meal, as do many commercials selling premium pet food.  But you know what?  In the wild, a dog or cat is not going to only eat the breast and wings of a chicken it killed.  It would eat the organs, eat the brain, even eat the bones (AKA, the byproducts).  As such, I consider the inclusion of animal by-product  meal to be a positive thing in general.

    I just wanted to bring up these points because when we researched dry cat food for our cats, we did extensive comparisons between brands, and decided that Purina One was by far the best at that price point.  

    "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it... unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." -The Buddha

    by Brian A on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 06:11:43 AM PDT

    •  Great post (2+ / 0-)
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      Brian A, whaddaya

      You said it much better than I did.

      Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

      by hnichols on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 06:21:08 AM PDT

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    •  Purina (4+ / 0-)
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      high uintas, mmcnary, Brian A, BlackSheep1

      My cats have been eating Purina all their 15+ years.  First kitten chow, then Purina One, and now they like the Cat Chow Indoor.  Someone brought us a bag of that, so we used it; they totally prefer the chow to the One.  Whatever the 4-legged kids want, you know.

      I use Purina for two main reasons:
      1.  Local company.  I have had friends and relatives work for Purina; they have several plants near where I grew up in the midwest.

      2.  I trust the ingredients.  During the pet food recall several years ago, I called them and eventually got a 'nutrition specialist' to call me back.  She talked to me for about half an hour about where they source their ingredients (100% from North America, mostly US).

      I'm no expert, just a brand loyalist.

      We're all just monkeys burning in hell.

      by smokeymonkey on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 06:45:56 AM PDT

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    •  Good eating.... (1+ / 0-)
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      high uintas

      Thanks for some good old fashioned common sense.  Yes Purina is some of the best dog food on the market today.

    •  Is this really true, at least for dogs? (0+ / 0-)
      Next, they take exception to the grain in there.  Fine, dogs and cats aren't really supposed to be eating grains.
      Is it grains in particular, or all carbs that they object to? I read somewhere recently (Scientific American, IIRC) that a major physiological difference between dogs and wolves is that dogs can digest carbohydrates while wolves cannot.

      The theory is that in prehistoric times, wolves hung out close to human encampments and ate what humans threw away, which included grains, fruits, and vegetables. As a result, these animals developed the ability to digest carbs over many generations. Evolution in action.

  •  when i was writing about my cancer dog, (5+ / 0-)

    rubi, someone left a comment that a vet oncologist, when asked about the high rate of cancer seen in dogs these days, said he attributes it to too many vaccinations and crap food.  i have heard warnings about purina food for years.  i haven't fed it to any of my animals for years.  rubi had major food allergies so i cooked her main diet, chicken, yams, green beans and carrots and fed her kibble with limited ingredients marketed by dick van patten. my new pup gets the limited ingredient food too but she has no allergies so she can get a more varied diet.  all her cooked chicken is in the form of little bites i use all day for training.  i cook that myself too.  she gobbles up chicken bites!  

    thanks for posting this info about purina.  we all grew up with purina dog chow, cat chow, my sister even fed her pot bellied pig purina pig chow.  but now we all know better.

    "I am an old woman, named after my mother. my old man is another child who's grown old." John Prine (not an old woman)

    by art ah zen on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 06:16:20 AM PDT

  •  Nothing wrong with sugar or propylene glycol (4+ / 0-)
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    Brian A, white blitz, elfling, whaddaya

    They are both sweeteners to make the food palatable for the dog. I know it sounds like anti-freeze but it's not.

    The descriptions of the Purina dog foods on the linked website don't sound very unbiased. They are actually quite opinionated. It set off my woo detector although I have not perused the entire site.

    Having said that, we feed our dogs the best premium dog food that money can buy but I can't fault people for feeding grocery store brands. Our dogs still get arthritis and other ailments as they age just like all dogs do.

    Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth - Mike Tyson

    by hnichols on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 06:19:22 AM PDT

  •  Their cat food is no better.. (2+ / 0-)
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    Brian A, Creosote

    We have been transitioning our cats away from cheap dry.  In the evenings we give them wet, in the mornings we give them a better brand of dry..

    •  I read that wet cat food is better in general (1+ / 0-)
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      BlackSheep1

      because cats don't really like to drink water, and so will get most of their water from the wet food if you give it to them.  We do timed wet feedings and free-feeding dry food (Purina One) as "snacks", and they only graze on the dry food, so they obviously much prefer wet.

      Oh, also, if you compare ingredients, even the cheapest wet foods are going to have a lot more meat and animal products in them than comparable dry.  And our vet told is that the "dry food is good for their teeth" idea isn't really true since dry food isnt hard enough to remove plaque.

      "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it... unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." -The Buddha

      by Brian A on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 06:28:58 AM PDT

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      •  Cats and water (6+ / 0-)

        I'm not disputing your point at all, but one of my cats LOVES drinking water.  He will cry at the cup until we put ice cubes in it for him.  Fricking spoiled!

        We're all just monkeys burning in hell.

        by smokeymonkey on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 06:47:36 AM PDT

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      •  I would agree that in my opinion, (3+ / 0-)
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        Brian A, whaddaya, Creosote

        dry food is a problem for cats (especially male cats who can get urinary blockages that can be fatal!) and that dry food is not only NOT good for teeth, it is bad for teeth. And when was the last time you ever got a cat to do something it didn't want to do, like drink if it wasn't inclined to do so? I actually add water to my cat's raw meals so he gets enough.

        Vets get much of their pet food information from pet food companies. While I don't discount their advice, I do consider it in a larger context of information available to me.

        I got a lot of pushback from one vet about feeding my cats a raw diet, but I started seeing a different vet in the same practice and don't get the pushback. The pushback didn't change my opinion. I'd done my research and felt it was the best option.

  •  A lot of commercial pet food is the animal (4+ / 0-)
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    Brian A, TracieLynn, CJB2012, Creosote

    equivalent of breakfast cereal: poor to middling ingredients, bulky filler, and added vitamins and other nutrients so that it has some nutritional value. Think "cheese puffs with meat." The amount of corn and other starches in many foods is astounding.

    I know they are convenient and affordable, but many of them really aren't that good for animals to eat day in and day out.

    In particular, cat food is pretty poor. Cats shouldn't eat grains and starches. They are obligate carnivores.

    My cat eats a raw diet. His litter box has no odor. At all. None. He's healthy and a good weight. It means I have to feed him at set times (no dumping food in a bowl and leaving it there all day) but that is better for him anyway, and gets me up. He's an effective alarm clock.

    I acknowledge the privilege of being able to afford a more expensive food and the time to feed it.

  •  I think the site is good for people to evaluate (1+ / 0-)
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    grover

    what they think is most valuable between various, prepared dog foods.  Not sure I fully agree with some of their ingredient pluses and minuses.

    That said, we fed our dogs Nutro Ultra (and related dry + wet variations by Nutro) almost exclusively and they seemed happy with those (plus, there were different meat/poultry variations, because the each dog went up and down in their desires any given mix as they got older).  They also loved the Nutro biscuit treats.

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    by wader on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 06:27:43 AM PDT

  •  I would like to say something here that I haven't (2+ / 0-)
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    high uintas, whaddaya

    really said before because people get so particular about what they feed their animals. But I think this is the time.

    I found a routine 30 years ago that has never failed me. For my dogs I feed them Kibbles and Bits. I refill a small bowl morning and evening and they snack off it as they wish. It has always been fresh and good-smelling, and it stays fresh sitting out in a bowl yet does not draw flies. It also does not create monster farts like any of the products (Alpo!) that are full of red coloring and "meaty" flavor.
         They also get any scrap of people food they will eat. They are of proper weight, with fine teeth, and not diabetic or prone to any other health problems, and they get a two-mile walk daily.
    As far as my cats, I feed them a never-ending bowl of Meow Mix. Morning and evening I split one can of Friskies between three cats (a "mouse-size" portion, as a friend of mine said). I never vary this routine either because although they don't mind Alley Cat as a substitute, they know their Meow Mix, and I have noticed that just like the Kibbles and Bits, Meow Mix has always been fresh and seemed good, to me.

    What I noticed as I was writing this comment is that lo and behold, K&B and Meow Mix both come from the same brand: Big Heart Pet Brands, which is under Del Monte Products. Well, now. I like that. I had not realized that both products that have served me so long and so well are from the same place. Only goes to show how consistent they are.

    I do not feed my animals Purina dry food products, but I have never had any problems with Friskies in a can.

    I don't feed my cats Friskies dry food because they walk away and hold out for MM or Alley Cat. Simple as that.

    No UTIs, no diabetes, no nuthin' for health problems. (They are all indoor-outdoor animals who get plenty of exercise.)

    For all the people who are attached to Fancy-Name foods that are "scientific" and sold to you by the vet- it was only 7 years ago that rat poison was sprayed on the wheat that went into dog food mix made in China, and the recall covered "dog and cat food sold throughout North America under such brands as Iams, Nutro and Eukanuba."

    So that's it. Is it a product promotion? You bet. Forget Purina Dry Foods. I and my menagerie swear By Kibbles and Bits and Meow Mix.

    We are all pupils in the eyes of God.

    by nuclear winter solstice on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 06:39:57 AM PDT

    •  I respect your choices (2+ / 0-)

      It's all about what makes your pets happy and healthy when you get right down to it.

      Lately we have been feeding our dogs Pure Balance Grain Free Salmon and Pea formula. I bought it because Possum would do anything for fish and the food smells just like salmon. It costs me about $8. a week for two dogs and I don't think that is too much. They don't have canned food and are our table scavengers.

      My indoor pooties eat Purina Indoors, the inevitable barfs don't stain my carpet and they like it. My feral colony eats what I can afford, they supplement with mice, gophers, and voles. They don't go much for birds, there is so much available at ground level in the fields that surround me.

      I do feed my ferals wet food mixed with water for the moisture that they need. My indoor pooties have water bowls everywhere and of course prefer the toilet :(

      Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. They lie through their teeth with their head up their behind. You open up their hearts and here's what you'll find - Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. John Prine

      by high uintas on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 09:03:04 AM PDT

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  •  It's what my dog can tolerate (2+ / 0-)
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    grover, high uintas

    After several months of radiation and chemo my dog has developed a very sensitive digestive system. Almost the ONLY food she can tolerate is Purina ONE. I have tried the vet recommended Iams, as well as several other "natural" and "organic" foods. The Purina ONE formula with rice seems to be bland enough for her.

    She's 11. I will feed her what she can eat without distress.

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    by GwenM on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 07:39:25 AM PDT

    •  I always say, (2+ / 0-)
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      high uintas, whaddaya

      The best food for your dog is the food your dog does best on.

      I tried to feed one of my dogs a raw diet , a cooked dirt, then a grain free kibble . Then a few others. Turns out she thrives on a kibble that has a decent amount of grains.

      (She's been worked up and is otherwise perfectly healthy.)

      It goes against everything I know to be true about dog nutrition, but that's what works for her.

      So that's the food she eats.

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 09:05:07 AM PDT

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  •  Switched my dogs to raw a month ago. (3+ / 0-)
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    CJB2012, grover, Creosote

    Never going back to kibble again.

    •  Raw diets rock (0+ / 0-)

      If you have a dog who thrives on  them . Raw is easily my preference.

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 09:06:23 AM PDT

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  •  If you read the other ratings on that site... (4+ / 0-)

    ...they're obviously highly automated; the same ingredients receive identical wording across reviews.

    I also see frequent use of scare tactics, such as:

    The fifth ingredient is poultry by-product meal, a dry rendered product of slaughterhouse waste. It’s made from what’s left of slaughtered poultry after all the prime cuts have been removed.

    In addition to organs (the nourishing part), this stuff can contain almost anything — feet, beaks, undeveloped eggs — anything except quality skeletal muscle (real meat).

    and
    The sixth ingredient includes animal fat. Animal fat is a generic by-product of rendering, the same high-temperature process used to make meat meals.

    Since there’s no mention of a specific animal, this item could come from almost anywhere: roadkill, spoiled supermarket meat, dead, diseased or dying cattle — even euthanized livestock.

    Sorry, but unsubstantiated hype like that isn't credible in my book.

    I have a hard time calling these "reviews" when they're really nothing more than automated reports generated from the list of ingredients.

    The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

    by wesmorgan1 on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 08:05:35 AM PDT

    •  Years ago, I worked a temp job at ALPO (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Creosote

      dog food plant in SE Pennsylvania, and years later in a dry dogfood manufacturing and packing plant nearby. In the case of the canned dog food, ALPO, the stench from the railroad cars full of spoiled meat they brought in to process was nauseating from 100 yards.

      The dry food plant made at least a half dozen different "brands", simply by changing the ratios of various ingredients going into the extruder. The majority of dry foods are all very similar except those that specify they are grain free...most use junk left over from other processed foods, very similar to breakfast cereals.

      I have no interest in feeding my dogs anything Purina makes, and I don't recommend their products to anyone. period.

      It's garbage.

    •  I've been to that site numerous times (0+ / 0-)

      And they trash almost all dry dog food except for the very expensive premium brands such as Blue Buffalo.  

      They give Bil-Jac a fairly lousy rating but I've been feeding it to my dogs for years and they thrive on it - very shiny coats, healthy skin.  

      I kind of dislike this 'don't feed your dogs Purina' because in many cases it's what people can afford, and millions of dogs eat it without ill effect.

      The only dog food I'd stay away from - forever - is Diamond brand.  Way too many recalls.

      If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich." - John F. Kennedy

      by Dem Beans on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 09:46:37 AM PDT

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  •  I've watched my cat eat a mouse. (2+ / 0-)
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    tarkangi, Creosote

    She ate the meat and the bi-products.

    Turns out, they need the bi-products because they're a source of calcium!

    I fed our previous cat Purina One and it was horrible.  This was back a few years ago when they were still putting corn in the ingredients.  Do NOT feed your cat anything with corn in it!!!

    We buy a mid-range brand of wet cat food and mix it 50-50 with chopped gizzards.  Gizzards run about $1.99/lb, which is cheaper than cat food!   Sometimes they come mixed with hearts.  No problem.  Cook them in some water for about 30 min and grind them up, gristle and all.   Cats love it.

    Some cats do not tolerate fish products well.  If your cat is having issues with wet food (or dry food) try switching to all chicken and see if that settles the issue.

    •  I made my own dog food once (1+ / 0-)
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      Creosote

      The recipe stressed that you MUST include organ meats like the heart because they contain high levels of essential nutrients like taurine.

      I am aften amused at how different animals have different nutritional requirements.  In a notorious example, guinea pigs need vitamin C (just like people) and will wither away if fed rabbit food.

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      by tarkangi on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 09:35:54 AM PDT

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  •  Why just Purina? (0+ / 0-)

    There are numerous foods that are similar quality as Purina  and several ones that are worse.

    And Purina has a range of quality within its dog food line.

    I would never (never ever) feed Purina to my dogs. I don't work for them.

    I'm just wondering why you singled out Purina in particular. I think educational diaries about veterinary  and nutritional care are always useful, so it's good to have these conversations.

    fTR, one of my biggest complaints about these low-level Kibbles like Purina, Sci-Diet, Iams, Pedigree and all grocery brands is that they seem so cheap, but you have to feed so much that they actually cost the same or more.

    My 90 lb very active dog eats 3-3.5 cups of food per day. He would have to eat probably 8 cups of the lesser quality kibble. So my "expensive" kibble is actually cheaper.

    Not only that, but because there's no excess fillers, there's a lot less to clean up on the other end.

    © grover


    So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

    by grover on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 08:56:45 AM PDT

  •  My Vet Approved My Choice (0+ / 0-)

    I feed my cats Bench & Field, which is made in the US from locally-sourced ingredients.  My vet, who runs her clinic under the business name The Cat Doctor, approved of my choice.  I order online and two days later, UPS brings a three-month supply to my door.

    Bench & Field also makes d*g food.

    I am only a satisfied customer, and do not endorse Bench & Field in any other capacity, paid or otherwise.

  •  I stopped using Purina years ago... (0+ / 0-)

    ...when I opened a bag and found larvae sticking out of nearly all the pieces of kibble.  Tossed the bag, went to buy another one (couldn't return it - had it for a week before opening it, and no receipt), and found that one also had larvae crawling out of it.

    Returned that one, and didn't buy another bag since.

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