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Are we a stupid species? Much has been written about climate change denial,  the inability to hear or process data, turning off when you hear numbers,  and the psychological process of denial itself.  I would mention the theological element today.
I mentioned in a facebook post last year that by poisoning the natural world we live in, and by causing the widespread unnatural elimination of species,  (granting that extinction is a normal process of life with parameters that are normal within an expected range), we are rejecting God’s creation, and in effect crucifying Christ again, rejecting grace and our place in the natural order. A Methodist pastor of my acquaintance asked me if he could use that in a sermon, to which I assented, and said that he had been struck by the metaphor. I am an agnostic who still tends to see things in theological contexts. I ask you, could an ironic God actually be preparing the real end times in a biological
framework, or is this again a form of denialism? Is believing we are past the point of no return a form of denialism?  I have never done a poll before, so here is my first.


Is there hope for our species?

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  •  Tip Jar (2+ / 0-)
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    Sun Tzu, thanatokephaloides

    Consumerism is the deepest shrinkage of what it means to be human. - Dr. Vandana Shiva

    by bisleybum on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 02:07:59 PM PDT

  •  i agree with this guy... (1+ / 0-)
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    denial feels good, and here's why- irrational fear pushes logic to use the creative side of the brain to deny reality and rationalize socially/religiously acceptable easy answers to satisfy the need for certainty and when the gate to the creative  side opens up some of the sex energy trapped in the left side escapes to the pleasure centers.

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 02:18:40 PM PDT

  •  Why is it so important to you what others believe? (1+ / 0-)
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    Personally, I don't care what you believe in or not. I only ask that you keep it out of my soup. mkay?

    Religion is meant to be a personal matter. Not a political reason to destroy your neighbors contrary to your religion in the first place.

    Ted Cruz is upset that there are so many refugees who would like to come make a life in America the way his father has.

    by Gordon20024 on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 04:29:47 PM PDT

    •  Huh? (1+ / 0-)
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      I was merely curious if a disproportionate number of people still think we can think our way out of this box because of (science, technology, good vibes, take your pick). For the record, I think we're toast, though we may scrabble by for the remainder of this century. It is not important to me at all what others believe. Like any poll, it can give a sense (a very unscientific sense) of whether people have any idea at all of what we have done to this planet. As for your soup, being on dKos in the first place implies that you're accepting of a pretty mixed broth. As for the crucifixion, I could have just as easily referred to the dismemberment of Osiris, the sacrifice of Isaac, or any of the many Native American myths of disharmony with the Great Spirit. Destroying my neighbors? You really think I suggested that? Come on, now.

      Consumerism is the deepest shrinkage of what it means to be human. - Dr. Vandana Shiva

      by bisleybum on Sat Jul 26, 2014 at 05:37:55 PM PDT

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  •  Agnostic? Really? (0+ / 0-)

    ".... we are rejecting God’s creation, and in effect crucifying Christ again, rejecting grace and our place in the natural order."

    Some more research might be in order because "Christ" was not the first or only crucified savior. You might as well have written that we reject Mithra or Tammuz when we trash the environment.  

    There is no connection between any god or any mythological savior and our actions in the realm of reality. The supposition that a god is "preparing the real end times in a biological framework" is nonsensical and useless as any kind of point of reference about global environmental issues.

    •  Sigh. (0+ / 0-)

      Guess I wasn't clear. Yes, I am a true agnostic. I've never met a religion yet that wasn't fun to poke at. From a supposed Christian point of view, we are rejecting God's creation... hence the above comment about Osiris. I agree that there is no connection, and that the end times is nonsensical as a point of reference. Should have used a snark tag. My bad. But I know some fundamentalists who really think this way. Guess I'll stick to pure number theory as my "religion".

      Consumerism is the deepest shrinkage of what it means to be human. - Dr. Vandana Shiva

      by bisleybum on Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 10:03:01 AM PDT

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  •  As a species (1+ / 0-)
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    we are as smart as yeast

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