I usually don't get into speculation but this seems more than speculation:Revelations of German Pilot: Shocking Analysis of the “Shooting Down” of Malaysian MH17. “Aircraft Was Not Hit by a Missile” The pictures in that link seems to speak for themselves but let's use the narrative here.
The summary of what it says is that there is no evidence from wreckage that a missile hit the body of the aircraft. Instead the damage was all to the cockpit area and is consistent with the armament of a Ukrainian SU 25. Read on below for details.
The narrative is like this:
I recommend to click on the little picture to the left. You can download this photo as a PDF in good resolution. This is necessary, because that will allow you understand what I am describing here. The facts speak clear and loud and are beyond the realm of speculation: The cockpit shows traces of shelling! You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30 millimeter caliber projectile. The edge of the other, the larger and slightly frayed exit holes showing shreds of metal pointing produced by the same caliber projectiles. Moreover, it is evident that at these exit holes of the outer layer of the double aluminum reinforced structure are shredded or bent – outwardly! Furthermore, minor cuts can be seen, all bent outward, which indicate that shrapnel had forcefully exited through the outer skin from the inside of the cockpit. The open rivets are are also bent outward.
What does this suggest? Read on:
So what could have happened? Russia recently published radar recordings, that confirm at least one Ukrainian SU 25 in close proximity to MH 017. This corresponds with the statement of the now missing Spanish controller ‘Carlos’ that has seen two Ukrainian fighter aircraft in the immediate vicinity of MH 017. If we now consider the armament of a typical SU 25 we learn this: It is equipped with a double-barreled 30-mm gun, type GSh-302 / AO-17A, equipped with: a 250 round magazine of anti-tank incendiary shells and splinter-explosive shells (dum-dum), arranged in alternating order. The cockpit of the MH 017 has evidently been fired at from both sides: the entry and exit holes are found on the same fragment of it’s cockpit segment!
The story told here seems to hang together. Here is more:
Graze on the wing
Because the interior of a commercial aircraft is a hermetically sealed pressurized chamber, the explosions will, in split second, increase the pressure inside the cabin to extreme levels or breaking point. An aircraft is not equipped for this, it will burst like a balloon. This explains a coherent scenario. The largely intact fragments of the rear sections broke in mid air at the weaker points of construction most likely under extreme internal air pressure. The images of the widely scattered field of debris and the brutally damaged segment of cockpit fit like hand in glove. Furthermore, a wing segment shows traces of a grazing shot, which in direct extension leads to the cockpit. Interestingly, I found that both the high-resolution photo of the fragment of bullet riddled cockpit as well as the segment of grazed wing have in the meantime disappeared from Google Images. One can find virtually no more pictures of the wreckage, except the well known smoking ruins.
S o what does it mean? now for some speculation:
If you listen to the voices from Washington now who speak of a “potentially tragic error / accident”, all that remains is the question of what might have been the nature of this “mistake” perpetrated here. I am not given to hover long in the realm of speculation, but would like to invite others to consider the following : The MH 017 looked similar in it’s tricolor design to that that of the Russian President’s plane. The plane with President Putin on board was at the same time ”near” Malaysia MH 017. In aviation circles “close” would be considered to be anywhere between 150 to 200 miles. Also, in this context we might consider the deposition of Ms. Tymoshenko, who wanted to shoot President Putin with a Kalashnikov.
I may have missed earlier reports about this but reading this blew my mind. The instability in the world is becoming hard to handle and very disturbing. I can't help but wonder if the impending global crises due to climate change are stirring up the worst in people. That's a very speculative point but consistent with the way things seem to be going everywhere.
6:39 PM PT: The consensus seems to be that it was not a plane. Lots of good stuff in the discussion about capabilities of the planes mentioned , etc. My own response to the poll was "Can't be sure" I now tend to lean to the conventional explanation.
I need to share the fact that I was alerted to this story by Mark Crispin Miller's "Notes from Underground". To the extent that there is reason to question the sources he gave us his whole operation is suspect. Just so you know.
Now, as for the way some folk have to write comments, I can only say that I have seem some of the least respectful ones here than I have in over 600 diaries over many years. Yes I asked questions about the attacks on the ideas in the source. That does NOT mean I subscribe to those ideas, but that I am trying to get at the truth in the matter. If we are going to make a better world, this is certainly NOT how to do it.
Sun Aug 03, 2014 at 12:19 PM PT: This gets funny. More abuse. You need to go to the source: A member of our local Democratic Committee promotes Mark Crispin Miller where this all came from.
These posts and that make me tend to distrust Democrats. First because they are unable to be civil and second because they give out info that they then jump on as "bad sources". Someone needs to get their act straight and it is not I.