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There was an article in Wapo recently about the coywolf moving into Rock Creek Park in Washington DC. The general gist of the article is that there are now larger carnivores in the middle of DC. The amount of wolf/dog/coyote genes is actually not set in stone, it varies from individual to individual. When they came to New England we called them coy dogs.

Where the article gets it wrong is that coywolves of course can and do feed on deer and bigger. Warning if you don't want to see coyotes eating a deer alive don't watch the vid.

Those dogs look a lot bigger than the ones we have in the west, like twice as big.

The photos have been manipulated such that red is added to where the deer is bleeding. The predation is fairly typical of canines in that they first bite the perineum to cause massive bleeding and eat the guts. The canines are neither cruel nor kind, just dogs, but for the deer it must be horrific.

There are also reintroduced red wolves in North Carolina. http://www.wolf.org/... where they interbreed with coyotes. I once asked some hunters from that area how come so many people shoot so many reintroduced wolves and was told that it's just about impossible to tell a red wolf/coydog mix from a coydog which is a mix anyway. Also that there are already enough coydogs, no need for more. I have my doubts about the red wolf program. Might just end up with a few more genes in coyotes.

Recent studies have shown that it certainly is possible to interbreed gray wolves with coyotes. All these different names and arguments over separate species or hybrid or whatever fascinate scientists, me not so much. Recently the effort to delist the gray wolf was criticized by an independent review over just this issue, whether the eastern timber wolf really was a separate species or not. It was widely reported here and elsewhere that the argument was over the delisting itself. Eyeroll. Canines don't carry doggy backpacks but they do bring lots of baggage.

A domestic dog/wolf litter in Washington state was put down this spring. In Europe testing shows lots of interbreeding with sheepdogs. Canines can interbreed, especially wolves and dogs, but also coyotes.

It looks like DC now has canines, but if any predator can live alongside humans with little conflict it's the coyote and it's hybridized relative the coywolf. Rock Creek Park is managed by the Park Service and of late they've been culling deer via paid shooters, coywolves will probably make that unnecessary. On the downside is that some off leash dog walkers will eventually lose a dog or two.

Below are a couple of links, one of which is a really fun PBS documentary that I wish I knew how to embed. Part of the documentary is about the folk singer Taylor Mitchell who was preyed on and killed by coy wolves in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...

http://www.pbs.org/...

http://6thfloor.blogs.nytimes.com/...

Originally posted to ban nock at DKos on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 09:59 AM PDT.

Also republished by Backyard Science.

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  •  Tip Jar (21+ / 0-)

    “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

    by ban nock on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 09:59:01 AM PDT

  •  It sounds a bit as if you mean (4+ / 0-)
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    that Taylor Mitchell was attacked in Algonquin. (I take it you just mean this all took place in Canada.) In fact it was in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia.

    Higher Ground! That's what we deserve. And that's what we demand! -Rev. Barber

    by sfinx on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 10:24:11 AM PDT

  •  In Fairfax County, Virginia, just outside (2+ / 0-)
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    the infamous DC Beltway, we have been told coyotes are well-established here for at least ten years, now. Despite being an avid hobbyist wildlife photographer, I have never seen any evidence of them - but, then, I am primarily diurnal, by photographic habit. ;p

    My favorite local fauna, however, are always on the lookout for them, and I can't help being just a little bit on their side in the struggle for existence in our local woods:

    Odocoileus virginianus - 1386

    "[T]he preservation of the means of knowledge among the lowest ranks is of more importance to the public than all the property of all the rich men in the country." - John Adams, A Dissertation on the Canon and the Feudal Law. (1765)

    by AnacharsisClootz on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 10:34:48 AM PDT

    •  It's just about impossible for me to tell their (3+ / 0-)
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      tracks from a dog, the only way I've found to tell if they are around is by scat. They drop it at prominent places so others can see and sniff. Trail junctions, outcroppings with a view, on the trail but just off where it won't get stepped on and so will last a while. Like dog but segmented more and darker, a close look shows hair from rodents around here. I'm careful never to touch the stuff, I'm sure there are possibly parasites harmful to humans.

      You can probably google up examples of what to look for.

      I just about never actually see them.

      I like them all, yotes, deer, even rodents. Coyotes are like humans, always wandering around looking at stuff even in bad weather. Living so long in the west I've a natural reaction to seeing coyotes in real life.

      “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

      by ban nock on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 10:52:53 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, it's entirely possible I've seen their scat (1+ / 0-)
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        and unthinkingly attributed it to our also abundant local red fox population.

        "[T]he preservation of the means of knowledge among the lowest ranks is of more importance to the public than all the property of all the rich men in the country." - John Adams, A Dissertation on the Canon and the Feudal Law. (1765)

        by AnacharsisClootz on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 11:03:11 AM PDT

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  •  Out in the PNW, I have seen or heard quite a few (4+ / 0-)

    coyotes around the rural Oregon area where we live.
    I love the way our rescue dog(supposedly, part german shepherd and part  sheltie ) joined in the howling at night or early a.m.). This year for some reason I have hardly seen or heard any.

    Thanks for this diary !

  •  Republished to Backyard Science (1+ / 0-)
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    That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

    by enhydra lutris on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 01:27:33 PM PDT

    •  Thank You, I read Backyard often, but still not (1+ / 0-)
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      sure what it's about, nature at a guess. ;-)

      “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

      by ban nock on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 03:30:48 PM PDT

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      •  ......... (2+ / 0-)
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        Below are a couple of links, one of which is a really fun ? PBS documentary that I wish I knew how to embed. Part of the documentary is about the folk singer Taylor Mitchell who was preyed on and killed by coy wolves in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia.

        "When it's over, I want to say: all my life I was a bride married to amazement." Mary Oliver

        by weezilgirl on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 05:25:57 PM PDT

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        •  documentary is fun, not the killing of Taylor. (0+ / 0-)

          wolves kill people as do mountain lions and bears.

          “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

          by ban nock on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 06:03:00 PM PDT

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          •  I'd hate to be relative/friend and read it. (0+ / 0-)

            link, please, for deaths of people, in US, due to wolf attacks.

            saw you on Twitter recently......

            "When it's over, I want to say: all my life I was a bride married to amazement." Mary Oliver

            by weezilgirl on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 07:32:27 PM PDT

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            •  google teacher killed alaska or oil field worker (1+ / 0-)
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              killed canada. These are just the recent "official" ones with a coroners stamp of approval. I'll link if you've looked already and need help but I won't' provide links for something you should be doing yourself.

              I think a relative/friend would understand the vid is fun and I wasn't talking about the singer's death. Why are you trying to make an issue of it? Please don't be a stirrer.

              “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

              by ban nock on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 08:17:06 PM PDT

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            •  If you've seen me on twitter please don't share (1+ / 0-)
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              my real name. I pulled all personal info of DK as a precaution for the insanely violent animal rights people.

              “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

              by ban nock on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 08:22:15 PM PDT

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              •  Sigh. (0+ / 0-)

                I saw a real time photo and some videos of your camping trips. That is it. And your real name. Whatever is on the internet is out there.

                "When it's over, I want to say: all my life I was a bride married to amazement." Mary Oliver

                by weezilgirl on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 11:26:40 PM PDT

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                •  yes but sharing it here is a bannable offence (1+ / 0-)
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                  and that's one rule that is enforced. Any personal information you research about me on the internet that you post, I'll report. There are no vids of mine on camping on twitter. Hopefully you are looking at someone else.

                  “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

                  by ban nock on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 05:34:25 AM PDT

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  •  the last time I visited DC I was bemused to see (2+ / 0-)
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    two wild deer wandering around inside the National Zoo, right in town:

    DSCN3570

    DSCN3576

    In the end, reality always wins.

    by Lenny Flank on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 02:04:10 PM PDT

  •  This would be the place where open carry (1+ / 0-)
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    should be allowed.

    A million Arcosantis.

    by Villabolo on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 02:17:03 PM PDT

  •  My neighbor came down the driveway yesterday (0+ / 0-)

    The older of her dogs opened the door (lever handle) and the young Yorkie got out too.
    An hour earlier I heard:  Yap...yap. YIP!

    Yap yap, wouldn't be at the juvenile Bald Eagles.  Nor the adult male.  Nor the Great Horned Owl.  Nor any of the hawks, or falcons.
    Probably not at the Fisher given mid-day either.  I haven't seen the Black Bears, since a pair of them were killed on the nearby Interstate.  

    So my money is on the Yotes, who only care for opportunity.

    Given the fact that "free range" around here better be "large horse, bovine or swine" or be vigilant like a turkey, and not preoccupied with eating alone, like a chicken or guinea fowl.

    •  That's too bad if I'm following what you're saying (0+ / 0-)

      hard to lose a dog.

      “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

      by ban nock on Thu Aug 28, 2014 at 08:05:01 PM PDT

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