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was checked into the morgue at 4:37 p.m., more than four and a half hours after he was shot.

The Grey Lady is coming to believe that there is a problem in Ferguson.

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  •  Esquire talks about that (14+ / 0-)

    And it is an excellent read.

    http://www.esquire.com/...

    "We have only the moral ground we actually inhabit, not the moral ground we claim." - It Really Is That Important

    by Diogenes2008 on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 04:06:08 PM PDT

  •  'Bout time The Grey Lady opened her eyes... (7+ / 0-)

    and everybody else's.

    Poverty is not an accident. Like slavery and apartheid, it is man-made and can be removed by the actions of human beings. —Nelson Mandela

    by kaliope on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 04:06:16 PM PDT

    •  Processing a scene takes time; (0+ / 1-)
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      aoeu

      had they rushed it, people would complain about that too.

      "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

      by Neuroptimalian on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 06:19:36 PM PDT

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      •  And since protocol often includes ... (1+ / 0-)
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        a requirement that a medical examiner inspect and okay movement of a body, one can guess that there was also an issue as to his/her immediate availability.

        "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

        by Neuroptimalian on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 06:23:17 PM PDT

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        •  and of course stopping the nurse from (8+ / 0-)

          attempting to give first aid, failing to treat the area as a crime scene, and of course not filling out a report was all part of protocol.

          •  It WAS treated as a crime scene, (0+ / 0-)

            which is why things had to remain as they were.  The lack of a report was no doubt due to legal advice, given by a lawyer provided to officers as a union benefit.

            "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

            by Neuroptimalian on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 08:44:52 PM PDT

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            •  Aren't you tired? Aren't you tired of (5+ / 0-)

              advocating for the murderers of black children.
              The fact that you have no problem with a kid been shot down like a rabid dog and left in the streets to bleed, says a lot about you and none of it good.
              You do not belong on this site.
              You are a fucking racist. I am sick of you devaluing the life of black people.

              Maya Angelou: “There's a world of difference between truth and facts. Facts can obscure truth.”

              by JoanMar on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 08:49:11 PM PDT

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              •  Stating facts devalues no one. (0+ / 0-)

                It's puzzling why that's difficult to understand.  If they are facts you'd prefer didn't exist, or, more likely, facts you'd prefer no one else became aware of because those facts don't support your opinion, you must find a way to accept that they do exist and will eventually and inevitably come to light no matter how many people you might be successful in intimidating into silence.  

                If you want to express emotion in a public comment, you're quite free to; but there's no obligation that we all do so, and your interpreting our not doing so as some sort of personal failing, or, worse, as "advocating murder" is, sadly, merely another example of an intense desire to affect the opinions of others about your target, but (thankfully!) you lack the power to dictate the contents of comments to force others to reflect your personal opinions.  Do you not see how such tactics not only fail to persuade but actually cause people to reject your argument?  

                I want to know ALL the facts; others do as well.  All decent people will do what is ethically called for here and elsewhere: share knowledge and information so that we can all be as educated as possible as to the WHOLE truth of any particular issue.  Truth does not concern itself with whether facts are bothersome, nor is that ever a legitimate reason for trying to suppress them.

                You have equated my stating of facts in my comment as being equal to advocating for murder.  That's one heck of a (failed) leap in logic, to say the least.  And you have NO example of me devaluing ANY person's life, anywhere or at any time.  Insinuating that discussing legal issues (in a neutral manner rather than one that you feel fails to reinforce and support your opinion) is the same as devaluing a life is both stunningly incorrect and simply ridiculous.  That this is so suggests that you are no better a person than the type you attempt to accuse fact-sharers of being.  Typically, a comment such as yours would be HRable as a lie under frequently-cited DKos rules.  You might wish to govern yourself accordingly in the future.  

                "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

                by Neuroptimalian on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 12:08:44 AM PDT

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            •  So it is now optional for police to do their job? (1+ / 0-)
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              It is beyond comprehension that the police officer involved in the shooting is "allowed" to not provide a contemporaneous report of events, but rather gets to consult with a lawyer BEFORE HE IS UNDER INVESTIGATION OR IN ANYWAY AT RISK. Nor that the OTHER 2 police officers that are reported to have been there soon after the shooting have also not done their job and filed reports.

              Yes, that is all because they had to "preserve" the crime scene. Which i'm beginning to believe means do everything possible to prevent an impartial review of what transpired that day.

              The activities of the Ferguson and St. Louis County police in this incident, and the ensuing protests, cannot be justified, no matter how you'd like to try.

      •  Fuck off!!! (1+ / 0-)
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        This is a disgusting comment!

        Maya Angelou: “There's a world of difference between truth and facts. Facts can obscure truth.”

        by JoanMar on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 08:41:43 PM PDT

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      •  Are You Fucking Kidding? (0+ / 0-)

        The perp drove away from the crime scene with a chief piece of evidence.

        •  And you got a drive by uprate. (0+ / 0-)
        •  If by "perp" you mean Officer Wilson, ... (0+ / 0-)

          and if by "chief piece of evidence" you mean the police vehicle, how do you explain the reports provided right here on DKos that the officer was driven from the scene by another officer and taken to the hospital, and that the vehicle was trailered to a location where it could be analyzed by technicians?

          "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

          by Neuroptimalian on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 04:02:32 PM PDT

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  •  The article frustrated me (8+ / 0-)

    It's clear that the policy in St. Louis and Ferguson f&$Ked this up from the start, starting with how they mishandled Brown's body on the scene, yet once again the NYT tried to present both sides and let the people who f&$Ked this up present BS arguments that are not challenged in any way. From the start, the police seemed more concerned about those angry black folks then about taking care of Michael Brown's body with even a shred of respect and decency, not seeing a connection between the two.

    •  I never thought I'd see the day when the (2+ / 0-)
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      Washington Post does a better, more compassionate job than the New York Times.
      That was shoddy journalism from the NYT.

      Maya Angelou: “There's a world of difference between truth and facts. Facts can obscure truth.”

      by JoanMar on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 08:44:58 PM PDT

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