It's a little frustrating going through certain message boards and hearing ridiculous talking points being furthered and furthered without anyone going up against them, so I decided to do what I do best: leave my opponent speechless. I am surrounded by right wingers and I have become adept at taking them out verbally, so here are some common talking points by libertarians and how you can shoot them down. We'll do other types of right wingers at a later date. You'll hear this stuff from conservative libertarians, super individualists, some strains of libertarian republican, and plain jackasses. I think in the future the dichotomy will be the left vs. conservative libertarians (of the Ron Paul and Grover Norquist molds) due to the ticking demographic time bomb of the Republican party. Yes, there is this new thing called "Left Libertarian," but they are a different kettle of crazy. Anyways, here we go!
Liberals just want to spend other people's money!
Umm, ok first off I'm not a teenage girl with daddy's credit card. A government does stuff, and most of the time that means money. Yes, I'm spending people's money, but last time I checked, liberals pay taxes too. We spend my money, your money, the money of people who have no opinion, and everything in between. You have little to no sense of "the group" so you probably don't even think of anyone but yourself, so thinking that other people pay taxes too and don't object to what's being spent probably never occurred to you. It's communal money, and there is a system in place to do something about it.
Liberals want to make people weak and dependent. There's a John Galt waiting inside everyone!
No there isn't. Sorry. By the way, I'm more of an ubermensch than most republicans and conservatives I know. There's a large amount of human behavior that only the individual has any control over. People change their own lives, but you know what, they find it alarmingly more difficult to do when they don't have tools. You think by starving them of resources or turning a blind eye they'll magically become great people. I'm sorry, but some things are out of reach without a stool. There's nothing wrong in the community giving its own members a stool should they want to reach for something.
You just refuse to acknowledge the fact I think I have a right to my money! It's not compassion if you force me to give poor people money!
Completely disagree. I know you want to keep all of your money, and think it's perfectly fine if a hospital leaves someone dead in the street because they cannot pay. I think it's wrong, I know that I'm right. I'm sorry, but society has no compelling reason to take your amorality and use it in its decision making. It's destructive. It's against being human and you know its wrong deep down, but your selfishness has annihilated one of the most beautiful things of being human, and you want to lash out at everyone for understanding it better than you. Jut because force is involved does not make a moral act automatically immoral. Sorry Penn, you lose. If an amoral sociopath, someone who cannot feel empathy as a matter of their illness, wanted to shoot you, and I myself am not in a position to stop him, and make someone else do it, but said person does not want to do it, the act of compulsion does not make saving you automatically immoral. Living in your amoral constellation of individuals where might makes right reflects the animal kingdom that humans left thousands of years ago and want to be free of. This is why you're called a regressive.
Next time your more intelligent conservative friends come to debate you, you've got some firepower in your arsenal now. Who will I take on next? The religious right. It'll be delicious.