One of the first things I learned here from others was to back up opinions in comments with links.
My motivation for writing this is not to call out any one person but to provide an example of how DBAD and claims of being a victim is being manipulated in legitimate comments.
Sadly, this may turn into a pie fight, that is not what it's meant to do. I hope this is taken in the way it's meant to be, this community needs to be aware of some of the antics going on.
In an attempt to be open minded to claims of late of people being mean and policing the rec list I went into this diary today to see if that is actually the case.
A comment I came across is an example of why I feel a lot of this is crying wolf.
Hamden Rice commented in this diary.
Paranoid conspiracy theory of global proportions (14+ / 0-)
The idea that the Obama administration is connected to neo-con thinking is completely absurd.
You might want to read the administration's 2010 National Security Strategy which lays out what its foreign policy actually is, rather than the foreign policy that exists in your head.
It specifically rejects neo-con foreign policy and accurately predicts the Obama administration's actions.
He then
referenced another comment as part of his comment:
As far as your accuracy, and the accuracy of this diary and your prior diaries:
Let me remind the readers who are doubtful... (13+ / 0-)
that the diarist has a record of making dire predictions that no one believes, yet they all come true. Read these headlines, read them,and doubt no more:
2012 Will Mark The Final Collapse of Democracy in The U.S.
Here's How Michele Bachmann Wins The Presidency in 2012
Don't Be a Sitting Duck - Unite And Prepare For Upcoming Economic Collapse
The Real Danger of Armed Conflict in The U.S.
The Second U.S. Economic DEPRESSION Starts Next Week
Understanding the upcoming violent riots in the U.S.
Advice For Those Leading the Uprising in The U.S. This Fall
Why Rick Perry is Likely To Win The Presidency in 2012
The Private Detention Camps WERE BUILT In Anticipation of OccupyAmerica- UNIONS It's Time To Step Up
The (UK) Telegraph: Prepare For Riots in Euro Collapse, Foreign Office Warns
The Financial Collapse Has Started: It Will Be Cataclysmic
About To Explode!
by kalmoth on Fri Aug 02, 2013 at 08:08:19 PM EDT
by HamdenRice on Fri Sep 06, 2013 at 05:19:08 AM EDT
The first thing I did was look up kalmoth's comment to see if actual links were provided to back up the claims made in the comment. Yes,
kalmoth did back it up with links.
Pray tell how this kalmoth's comment, backed up with examples, is a strawman?
It's kind of sad you took all that time and effort into building another strawman.
Definition of
STRAW MAN
1: a weak or imaginary opposition (as an argument or adversary) set up only to be easily confuted
2
: a person set up to serve as a cover for a usually questionable transaction
Linking to diaries that were actually written doesn't meet either of these definitions.
To me this is another false attempt to claim to be a victim.
Let's return to Hamden's comment. The response was to
call it a dickhead turd and accuse Hamden supporting one of his pals, another false claim
that was pointed out in this comment by a highly respected member of Daily Kos.
Hamden was then accused by the diarist of being brutish, nasty, and violating the DBAD rule.
The personal victim mode was expounded upon:
The DBAD rules are wantonly violated without consequences. Everybody can see that.
Hamden's comment in no way came across as him being a dick or attacking the diarist, only stating his opinion and backing it up with another comment that backed up its claims.
Are there people who can be dicks on both sides of an issue? You bet.
Why am I pointing out this particular incident? Because this specific diarist has made many claims of being bullied and targeted, more than I have seen in a long time and it's affecting this community in a negative way.
Why now?
Lately I have seen too many of these manipulative cries of being a victim backed up by the same people. It's unproductive and divisive, IMHO and this crossed the line enough that I finally felt the need to speak out and point it out to people.
My personal belief is that to stay silent at this point is to enable this crap to continue.