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Good morning! Good morning!

Still have not come down off the feeling of victory last night! Though I will be sad that Michelle Bachmann and Eric Cantor are still free to cast their reign of terror I will celebrate upgrading the Senate!! Congratulations Senator elect Elizabeth Warren!

I traveled over to Redstate since I had heard a bit of moaning and growning coming from their side. Thinking to myself - I wonder what type of soul searching are they trying to do over there? My mouse flew over to their front page an my eyes beheld:

To the Extent that Conservatism Was on the Ballot, It Was Not Defeated
by Daniel Horowitz (Diary)
Really conservatives? Do you REALLY want to start your soul searching introspection with saying that the philosophical ideas that you hold dear did not fail?

Let me guess..It was the "person" or people" that failed conservationism?

Our detractors within the party will claim that it wasn’t Romney’s fault.  He lost due to the detested conservatives in the House.  They will argue that as long as the Republican Party….remains a Republican Party, we can no longer win national elections.  There’s one problem, though.  It is precisely that “detested” House majority that did the best last night.  Republicans will, more or less, hold onto their solid majority in the House.  Additionally, they added a number of new conservatives like Tom Massie, Keith Rothfus, Andy Barr, Mark Meadows, Kerry Bentivolio, Tom Cotton, Matt Salmon, Kevin Cramer, and Ron DeSantis.  It’s the House where we will stop Obama’s agenda, and these additions will bolster our ranks.
Are you even serious? The chasm in the Senate has grown even wider and we have retired some of the most insane tea party Republicans from the map. Your party actually got slightly more liberal. Your soul searching should be about how the house can work together to incorporate some conservative ideas into the agenda that are better then poison pills. You should be offering advice on how to expand into growing demographics in America.


Moderating our stance on one or two issues will not fundamentally alter the calculus of the youth vote.  If they are inexorably against us because of social issues, that same culture that drives them to the dark side of morals will entrench them into an incorrigible sense of entitlement and dependency.

At some point, we must figure out that if we are destined to confront an unfavorable demographic trend, we as way as well stand on principle and for bold colors in the hopes of changing minds and hearts.

So there you have it. The advice is not to attempt to be more socially acceptable to the younger generations. We just had citizens civil rights for marriage equality affirmed on the ballot in two more states and medical marijuana is now legalized in two more.
So civil rights and smoking pot drive people to the dark side of morals and therefor we must continue to do the exact some thing we were doing in the House before.


What the hell does "Bold colors in hopes of changing minds and hearts." even mean? Sounds like one of those silly platitudes you offer the contestant of a high school prom who didn't win Prom queen. It is meaningless. You need to be having some real soul searching about the nature of conservative policies over there. It is not a culture of dependency that we have. It is a culture of shared sacrifice that bands together to life all of us up. It is not perfect and we need your help in doing it.

Do you think you will achieve victory in doubling down on hate? The southern strategy  is done. You can no loner win the white house with your current electoral path. Filibuster reform in the Senate is a REAL thing now and that means there might be a ton of bills going forward to the presidents desk. Do you really want the climate of the next to years to be obstruction?

You're gonna have to realize that Climate Change is real and we need your help on it in the House. You're gonna have to realize that yes

Meanwhile, we have a heck of a fight on our hands in Congress with the lame duck session.  Personally, I will not rest until we have a solid conservative House that offers the American people a bold contrast from the Obama agenda.  We have no other choice.  Remember that most of these fights coming up – in fact, all of them – pertain to fiscal issues, not social issues.  So if we were to take the advice of Republican moderates, we would have to abjure our entire ideology in order to pick up those growing demographics.  And at that point, what is the purpose of seeking power, if we must stand for growing government and increasing taxes on those who already pay 37% of taxes in order to with the youth vote?
yes - taxes must go up. We need a progressive Capital gains tax. We need to roll back oil subsidies. We need to invest in infrastructure and modernizes our buildings cause the weather ain't getting any less nasty.

We need your help though. So please..stop with the doubling down on batshit crazy and obstruction. There is no path to victory along those lines. If you continue down this path and we waste even more time on cultural issues and the war on workers, women, and immigrants then the next two years will be very painful.

I want you to take a minute and remember 2006. Do you want 2006 to happen over again and then have a steeper climb up next time because of changing demographics?

Conservative ideas have failed and conservative  polices have not worked. Tax cuts for the rich do not spur wealth to come trickling down from the heavens. Come to the center again. We miss you and we need you to grow up.

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  •  I'm laying in popcorn for the coming (9+ / 0-)

    GOP civil war.  It's gonna be a doozy!  To the extent that there are any sane Republicans left, they know they cannot win with teabaggers -- but the teabaggers won't let anyone but teabaggers win their primaries.  Oh, it's going to be fun watching the carnage!

    •  These guys (5+ / 0-)
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      Sychotic1, dougymi, PeteZerria, ColoTim, avsp

      forget that we had two wars they started, put on a credit card, and the lowered taxes. It doesn't freaking work like that. The carnage is coming you are certainly right but this guy is in full denial mode. This is on their front page lol.

      •  I think the Bush tax cuts will expire (3+ / 0-)
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        phonegery, PeteZerria, Tool

        and not be replaced by any new tax plan. That will increase taxes at the top end from 35 to 40% and capital gains taxes from 15 to 20% and in total provide nearly $400 billion of additional revenue.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 07:10:14 AM PST

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        •  Top end actually increases more than that (1+ / 0-)
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          The 3.8% tax increase from PPACA starts Jan 1, 2013.

          The top rates become 44.4% for investment income and 23.8% for capital gains.  Note that dividend taxes rise from 15% to 44.4%.

          The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

          by nextstep on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 08:37:27 AM PST

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    •  -Are- there any sane Republicans (4+ / 0-)
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      left? Kinda by definition, I doubt it.

      I don't hold out any hope for a GOP civil war. I think instead we have to try to figure how to govern around the House.

      "Gussie, a glutton for punishment, stared at himself in the mirror."

      by GussieFN on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 07:06:06 AM PST

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      •  I agree (4+ / 0-)
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        Filibuster reform needs to be real and pushed hard.

      •  That's the only problem with this diary (0+ / 0-)

        The idea that filibuster reform will change how many bills make it to the President's desk.  The House has to pass bills and based upon the last couple years they are all about restricting health care, undoing Obamacare, and not ever taking up legislation to raise taxes or passing a budget.

        Even Sarah Palin on Fox last night was complaining over the lack of a budget for the last four years, saying it's the President's responsibility to have one because that's what the Constitution calls for (I think she STILL needs to do some reading and understanding, but I'm not holding out hope for her to do that). The GOP House won't even discuss the Jobs Act in committee, let alone the floor of the House, and I fear that's what we're in for over the next two years at least.  

        The restriction of the filibuster will help most with appointments of judges, ambassadors and cabinet posts.  I don't see new legislation coming for awhile.

  •  social issues (5+ / 0-)

    defeated some seriously severely bat shit crazy conservatism.   That 2010 allowed the Rethugs to control districting saved their asses in the House, and that will hurt us for a while.  But the Senate,   that tells the tale on the rejection of conservatism.

  •  It's not obstruction; it's disagreement. (5+ / 0-)
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    They're working to achieve different goals, they want to live in a different country. If they can undermine every helpful facet of the government, thus proving that the government offers no help, of course they'll do it. That's their political philosophy.

    Expecting anything from them but constant and unrelenting obstruction is foolish. And for them to offer anything else is just as foolish. They want to unravel the New Deal, and destroy the safety net, turn back civil rights, etc. They can't do that via cooperation.

    "Gussie, a glutton for punishment, stared at himself in the mirror."

    by GussieFN on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 07:04:26 AM PST

  •  They are delusional. (4+ / 0-)

    Their sacred ideology cannot fail, because it is approved by God, therefore it is the standard bearers who have failed. This has been their rallying cry since Barry Goldwater got trounced by LBJ, and it will be the death knell of the Republican party as we know it. By the time they figure out the truth--that America is passing them by--it will be too late.

    "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

    by happy camper on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 07:07:29 AM PST

  •  Majority thanks to redistricting (3+ / 0-)
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    Republicans didn't hold on to a majority for offices that were elected on a state-wide basis.

    The lines for Congressional Districts were redrawn to maximize Republican chances to win, and to minimize Democratic chances to win.

  •  They don't do (3+ / 0-)
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    "soul-searching."  It's not that they won't, but that they really can't.  It's not in their wiring, their DNA.  

    -7.62, -7.28 "Hold fast to dreams, for if dreams die, life is a broken winged bird that cannot fly." -Langston Hughes

    by luckylizard on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 07:36:02 AM PST

  •  Am I surprised? No. (2+ / 0-)
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    This was the only possible outcome of this election. The Republicans bet everything on making Obama a one term President. Now that that has been lost, what do they have left to offer? What can they pivot from to? There's nothing left for them. All they can do is dig in their heels for as long as possible as deeply as possible, and hope that they can drag this country enough in the mud that by 2016, voters would be willing to vote Republican for President. Remember, our ground game also requires us to reach out to sporadic voters. As long as we can't do that, the Republicans are very much in control of the system.

  •  But don't we say the same? (1+ / 0-)
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    I saw a recommended diary here saying essentially the same thing on our side. I guess nothing DOES change.

  •  All of this (0+ / 0-)

    "Republicans kep the House, so naturally America wants two more years like the last two!" argument ignores one simple fucking word:


    As a result of the 2010 Elections (elections matter, people - I hope that's hammered home by now!), the GOP held full control of most of the important redistricting processes, and promptly drew themselves up majorities.

    In Virginia, the GOP-controlled redistricting created an 8-3 R/D map - as long as the Dem vote remains below ~55%, the GOP are assured of receiving 8 seats out of 11 available in VA.

    In NC, the GOP-controlled redistricting (the Governor, unlike other states, is not consulted in NC) created a 7-4-2 R/D/Tossup map: so long as the Dem vote stays below about 57% statewide, the GOP will take 7 (at least) of the 13 seats, and up to 9.

    In Florida, gerrymandering essentially guarantees a Republican majority of the 27 available seats, no matter what.

    When the overall totals come in, don't be surprised if they show that a majority voted for Democratic House candidates, even though the Republicans keep most of the seats.

  •  I have to say (0+ / 0-)

    I don't think these people care about "winning." the care about being right. If being right means they lose the presidency, Supreme Court, and both House of Congress, well then, they can always blame it on those godless liberals who love giving welfare to those car-jacking blacks and illegal Mexicans to steal the election with voter fraud by dead people.

    "The government of the many, not the government of the money" - Nancy Pelosi

    by Americantrueandblue on Wed Nov 07, 2012 at 08:19:29 PM PST

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