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Originally posted to Comics on Tue May 14, 2013 at 02:50 PM PDT.

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  •  'zactly. Hugs all around. We could use them. (13+ / 0-)
  •  Yeah. (nt) (8+ / 0-)

    Visit Lacking All Conviction, your patch of grey on those too-sunny days.

    by eataTREE on Tue May 14, 2013 at 03:00:07 PM PDT

  •  gingerbread-man? (4+ / 0-)

    someone with kids had got to 'splain that one us clueless.

  •  Made me think of (4+ / 0-)

    The Hollow Men, by Thomas Wolfe.  Great story from one of our greatest-though out of fashion now-writers.  C. Green jumped from the Drake Hotel

    The pavement finally halts all, stops all, answers all. It is the American pavement, Admiral Drake, our universal city sidewalk, a wide, hard stripe of grey-white cement, blocked accurately with dividing lines. It is the hardest, coldest, cruellest, most impersonal pavement in the world: all of the indifference, the atomic desolation, the exploded nothingness of one hundred million nameless "Greens" is in it.

    . On ne gagne que les combats que l'on mène

    by NearlyNormal on Tue May 14, 2013 at 03:10:50 PM PDT

  •  Thanks, Keith, for refusing to (10+ / 0-)

    Turn away when suicide occurs.

    It's what society wants, to pretend it's not there.

    The elephant in the room; the pebble in the hiking boot, we know its there, but carry on as the blister gets bigger and bigger.

    I admire the work you're doing, even as we hug each other and try to carry on.

    Hugs to you and yours.

    © grover


    So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

    by grover on Tue May 14, 2013 at 03:16:22 PM PDT

  •  "The dead know only one thing . . . . (7+ / 0-)

    It is better to be alive."

    --S Kubrick

  •  Yeah, I don't get this whole comic. But I do (4+ / 0-)

    remember how much I cried when Spalding Grey killed himself. And I thought what could I have done to prevent it?

    I didn't know him. I had seen all of his movies and seen him speak a few times and just really felt a connection to him I guess.

    Tracy B Ann - technically that is my signature.

    by ZenTrainer on Tue May 14, 2013 at 03:17:54 PM PDT

    •  I Think Suicide Is Every Person's... (4+ / 0-)

      ...right. This coming from the state that started physician assisted suicide. That kinda thing. Voted for it twice. Know a guy who used it to end his life legally and another who wanted to and was pissed b/c the bar was set too high - need 6 months of life left otherwise, no go.

      But doing it b/c you're outta work and the world looks bleak is understandable, but probably the wrong thing to do.

      Kill the world by killing yourself - leaving behind, as did my brother-in-law, kids, a wife and a big hole in the lives around him. No good answers, no kind of clean solution.

      What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. King Henry, scene ii

      by TerryDarc on Tue May 14, 2013 at 03:36:17 PM PDT

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      •  I get it... (4+ / 0-)

        A cousin of mine shot himself in the head a couple of years ago.  I called the law enforcement agency that covered the case and got a copy of their investigative report.  [My cousin was living in a rental property; he had enough "courtesy" to go out back and shoot himself in the head there rather than leave a mess inside for his kids or his landlord or someone else to clean up.  I thought that odd, but also found it strangely comforting because basically, at heart, my cousin was a nice guy.  Knowing what he was like as a kid and an adult he is the last person in the world one would have ever thought would have committed suicide.]

        My brother told me some of the things he was told about our cousin's life the few months leading up to our cousin's suicide..., and it made sense if I looked at it from our cousin's perspective.  It was a rotten thing to do because he had adult kids and grandkids who loved him completely, and I knew from conversations with him that his kids and grandkids each had him wrapped around their little fingers (he was a doting father and grandfather)..., but because of the series of events with origins years earlier, I actually understood (from his point of view) why he blew his brains out..., so I can't, don't, won't judge him or condemn him for killing himself.

        The domino actions and events that had origins years earlier came to a series of junctions with events after that, so there's not one single solitary thing anyone could have said beyond a certain point that would have stopped him.  There was an end he could control.  It was as simple as that.

        Most suicides I don't understand and why will never be answered.

        I have zero comprehension of those who kill others before turning a gun on themselves.  That's just spiteful and pointless and leaves the survivors of all kinds with less understanding than average suicides.

        But, in this one instance for this one person, my cousin, I actually understood why.

        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

        by NonnyO on Tue May 14, 2013 at 04:09:55 PM PDT

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      •  I just watched the movie (1+ / 0-)
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        TerryDarc

        "How to Die in Oregon". Very wonderful movie.

         I'm working on my living will. I have a 60%  or above chance of living 5 years or more but when the time comes I want to be humanely euthanized.

        Assisted suicide doesn't even go far enough for me because if something happens real fast and you can't drink that drink on your own, too bad for you.

        I want a nice injection. But that's if I'm terminal. Seems like a whole 'nother thing if it's due to depression which there are a lot of cures for.

        So I guess I would say it's everyone's right who is of sound mind and I wonder if while depressed anyone is of sound mind?

        Tracy B Ann - technically that is my signature.

        by ZenTrainer on Tue May 14, 2013 at 07:12:30 PM PDT

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      •  Depression is hard to explain and understand (0+ / 0-)

        But I get it, and I get it well.

        "I feel a lot safer already."--Emil Sitka

        by DaddyO on Tue May 14, 2013 at 07:15:52 PM PDT

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  •  I've never had it happen because of a suicide, (3+ / 0-)
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    diggerspop, Robert Helmuth, chantedor

    but I've had days like that.  

    There's lots of bad stuff out there.  I remember in 2001, calling my sister and telling her I was glad I grew up with her.  My sister and I have never liked each other, but still ....

    Strength and dignity are her clothing, she rejoices at the days to come; She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the law of kindness is on her tongue.

    by loggersbrat on Tue May 14, 2013 at 03:30:46 PM PDT

  •  "I Cried Because I Had No Shoes (3+ / 0-)

    Until I met a man who had no feet."

    Variously attributed, even to Gandhi but that is unlikely.  

    It used to hang in a restaurant I frequented as a kid b/c they'd serve me stuff for free on occasion. It was in the mode of logger, quicherbellyachin' or the corncob hanging in the bathroom...still, even though I didn't understand it then, maybe still don't I sympathize coming across a suicide - two in my family.

    What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. King Henry, scene ii

    by TerryDarc on Tue May 14, 2013 at 03:32:05 PM PDT

  •  I know how much despair that is. (3+ / 0-)

    It's a hell of a lot.  It's a neverending feeling that, no matter what lies beyond, death sounds a whole lot better than the misery that is life.  Heck, even hell might be better.  It couldn't be worse.

    All I can say is, if anyone reading this has suicidal thoughts, even if you don't plan to act on them, only continue to kinda wish you weren't alive, talk to someone.  Your doctor, your pastor, your counselor, your best friend, someone.  Call 1-800-273-8255, the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, if you can't think of anyone to talk to, or don't want to alarm anyone you personally know.

    Thoughts of suicide aren't normal, they aren't healthy, and there are going be a lot of people who'll never get over the idea of you ending your life, no matter how miserable, because everyone who knows you, even a passerby like Keef was here, will fantasize over what they could have done to get you to back away from that ledge.  

    They care, even if you don't think so.  Get help, no matter how horribly difficult that can seem.  It'll get better; you just need help.

    I'm likely making this up as I go along.

    by Anjana on Tue May 14, 2013 at 03:43:53 PM PDT

  •  spot on as usual! good work ... eom (0+ / 0-)

    If you didn't like the news today, go out and make some of your own.

    by jgnyc on Tue May 14, 2013 at 05:09:27 PM PDT

  •  You're the best, Keef. (1+ / 0-)
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    DaddyO

    Something in my eye, can't say more....

    Thanks :-)

    Inside of me are two dogs. One is mean and evil. The other is gentle and good. The two dogs fight all the time. Which dog wins? The one I feed the most.

    by bakeneko on Tue May 14, 2013 at 05:32:19 PM PDT

  •  {{{{{keef}}}}} (0+ / 0-)

    Everyone, rich or poor, deserves a shelter for the soul. -- Sam Mockbee ~~~For handmade silver jewelry, click here.~~~

    by Lorinda Pike on Tue May 14, 2013 at 05:33:59 PM PDT

  •  Love this! Thanks! (1+ / 0-)
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    TerryDarc

    Life is good, yes?

  •  I was walking down the sidewalk (2+ / 0-)
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    TerryDarc, chantedor

    ...minding my own business, lost in my thoughts. They were dark. I was feeling sorry for myself.

    I felt a rude bump. It shoved me from behind and almost knocked me over. Who the hell hit me? Are you blind?

    I turned around and saw a man with dark glasses and a white cane.

    I said, "Sorry! Can I help you?"

    That's how fast you can change your mind. Any time you want. On any subject. In any situation. You have the power to see it from another point of view. Just like Ol' Keef did here. He came home and saw his own family in a new light.

    You can change your mind WITHOUT the tricks and coincidences changing it for you. You can do it. And I realize I'm not talking to Republicans here...

    "I feel a lot safer already."--Emil Sitka

    by DaddyO on Tue May 14, 2013 at 07:13:10 PM PDT

  •  The thing about suicide (0+ / 0-)

    is the person doing it generally thinks he is solving everybody's problems - not just his own - but in fact it is the most selfish, most aggressive act of revenge you can take against the people who love you.  I have seen several instances - and I've never seen a suicide yet that didn't ruin a few lives.  That's the last thing suicidal people think about, but it is the ultimate result....

    Still enjoying my stimulus package.

    by Kevvboy on Tue May 14, 2013 at 07:34:28 PM PDT

  •  "...to prevent (it had i) arrived..." (1+ / 0-)
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    Sven Boogie

    "...i thought of what i would've said to prevent arrived on the scene just minutes earlier..."

    is it just me or is that sentence grammatically incorrect?

    "...words got me the wound and will get me well, if you believe it." jim morrison
  •  Um... (0+ / 0-)

    "I thought of what I would've said to prevent arrived on the scene just minutes earlier."

    I don't think that's quite what you meant to say there...

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