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The Senate Agriculture Committee completed work on the 2013 Farm Bill Tuesday, and took another big and totally unnecessary whack at food aid, again. They voted to cut the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP), or food stamps, by $4.1 billion.

That's nothing compared to what the House has in mind: $21 billion in cuts to SNAP. But it's still too much and it's still unnecessary and wrong-headed. CBPP estimates that cuts as large as what the House is calling for would eliminate food aid to two million people, many families with children and the elderly.  What the Senate Democrats should be doing to counter the House is to propose increases to food aid.

It's particularly ironic that the Ag committee would vote for these deeper food aid cuts on the very day that the CBO released a new report estimating that the deficit for this year will $200 billion below the estimate that it produced in February 2013. If a moral and ethical argument for maintaining food assistance at at least current levels won't work to convince Senate Democrats to restore funding, maybe the CBO will.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Tue May 14, 2013 at 12:59 PM PDT.

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  •  And wanna bet the highly moral (22+ / 0-)

    conservative Christian hierarchies will ignore this in favor of attacking the administration on women's health issues, again?

    Funny how this whole giving to the poor thing keeps escaping their attention in favor of womens' uteri...

  •  For a person on food stamps that (18+ / 0-)

    Rarely purchase two weeks worth of food. This will create a nightmare. I hope people are aware that part of the, hideous and needs to be repealed immediately,'welfare to work' program includes reducing food stamps to less than a whole month of food. Probably couched as an incentive, but how is my neighbor in HUD housing with the reeking colostomy bag and walker supposed to get a job and buy food?

  •  I honestly don't know what we'll do (18+ / 0-)

    if food stamps are cut again. We've already gone down close to 50% from what we started with. Some of that is due to an increase in Dad's SSI, but we've had increases in utilities and rent as well, enough to balance that out. And we're well below poverty level for a family of 5. Already food stamps buys 1.5 weeks of groceries max for us. We get by, because we cut other things, but we eat more 'junk' food than I'd like (and I don't mean chips and sweats, I mean hotdogs and ramen and mac-n-cheese).

    "Madness! Total and complete madness! This never would've happened if the humans hadn't started fighting one another!" Londo Mollari

    by FloridaSNMOM on Tue May 14, 2013 at 01:25:02 PM PDT

    •  It is heartbreaking (11+ / 0-)

      that the politicians with their well fed stomachs and their gold plated health insurance and nice place(s) to live aren't the least bit concerned with letting people, including children, go hungry.

      It is an absolute disgrace to this country, with the amount of food that we have available, that anyone could be allowed to go hungry. And they probably consider themselves Christians. They should be ashamed to be seen in public.

      •  Do these idiots in power want a revolution? (7+ / 0-)

        Seriously. If they had an ounce of sense, they'd realize that this is EXACTLY what sparked the uprisings in Tahrir Square, then in Libya and Yemen. Or the French Revolution and the guillotines, for that matter.

        The elites became detached from the people, caught up in their own incestuous power bubble and all the moronic special interests that control it, while utterly failing to realize that the people were starving and desperate. Now that food prices are rising thanks to speculators, the poverty and desperation will be getting even worse.

        When you add the lack of health care and student loan debt to the equation, it's a perfect storm for social unrest. Apparently some Dems are just as much in thrall to the super-rich as nearly all of the GOP, there's always more money for corporate welfare and subsidies but even when the deficit is shrinking, nothing for the poor. These fools don't realize that when someone is hungry, it affects the mind, and people don't care about all the niceties of political wrangling or Beltway compromise. This is a route to riots and social unrest, and if it comes to that, the out-of-touch fools on Capitol Hill will have no one but themselves to blame.

    •  Please don't forget (1+ / 0-)
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      to give your local food bank a call.

      There are food banks covering every county in the country and they should be able to direct you to a food pantry close to your house. In Ohio, the income limit is 200% the Federal Poverty Level, so you'll be fine to get some food. A lot of pantries take into account household size and even offer some client-choice in the food you get. IDK about the logistics of your state, but there's no paperwork required to prove income in Ohio, just your signature affirming that you are eligible.

      Food bank and food pantry are often used interchangeably, but they are quite different:

      Food bank: large clearinghouse where purchased and donated food is solicited, sorted, stored and distributed to a local network of hunger relief organizations (like food pantries).

      Food pantry: front-line organization, often located in a church basement or other similar space, that distributes food directly to people in need.  

      I work at the food bank here in Cleveland, so please let me know if you have any questions about how it works, where we get the food, food safety etc.

      •  I've looked (0+ / 0-)

        The closest ones are about an hour away by car. We don't have a car, and even if we did would the gas to drive an hour out and an hour back be worth more or less than what we'd get at a food bank or pantry?

        "Madness! Total and complete madness! This never would've happened if the humans hadn't started fighting one another!" Londo Mollari

        by FloridaSNMOM on Wed May 15, 2013 at 04:49:31 AM PDT

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  •  Totally disgraceful (14+ / 0-)

    We should have a goal in this country of no one going hungry.

    Do you have a roster of who voted for and against this?

    Jon Husted is a dick.

    by anastasia p on Tue May 14, 2013 at 01:26:34 PM PDT

  •  The media has a lot of clout. (10+ / 0-)

    The millionairs and billionaires are willing to see women and children hungry, if not starving, rather than pay their fair share of taxes.  The media?  Busily
     ignoring the hunger.

    Time is a long river.

    by phonegery on Tue May 14, 2013 at 01:26:38 PM PDT

  •  Debbie Stabenow conceded to this cut months ago. (16+ / 0-)

    I posted the following piece here and at several other progressive blogs, hoping to stop this action.

    Here's an excerpt, and link to the entire Business Week [from AP] article.  

    Ag chair says she's open to more food stamp cuts

    By By Mary Clare Jalonick
    December 05, 2012

    WASHINGTON  (AP) — The Democratic chairwoman of the Senate Agriculture Committee says she is willing to consider higher cuts to the food stamp program in an effort to include a massive five-year farm bill in negotiations on the so-called fiscal cliff.

    Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., said that cuts to the food stamp program beyond the $4 billion over 10 years included in a Senate-passed farm bill "are something I am willing to talk about." A farm bill passed by the House Agriculture Committee would include $16 billion in cuts over the same amount of time. . . .

    Thanks for bringing this up, Joan.  I hope that her constituents will contact her office in opposition of this bill.  [If it's not too late.]  

    I called Stabenow's office at the time, but like many officeholder's offices, if you're not a constituent, they really could care less about your opinion, LOL!


    "Only he who can see the invisible, can do the impossible."-- Frank L. Gaines


    by musiccitymollie on Tue May 14, 2013 at 01:28:57 PM PDT

    •  Update: While researching facts on a Dem (3+ / 0-)
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      candidate, turned up this interesting 'tidbit' about Debbie Stabenow.

      I'm not from Michigan, but have relatives there.  A couple of them who were in the car industry for years, believe her to be a supporter of 'labor.'  And she may be.

      But she's apparently a supporter of 'austerity,' as well.  I say that because that is this Group's actual goal, although they don't make a point of it on their website.

      One of the co-founders of this group (whom I've heard speak on numerous occasions) is former CBO Head or Director David Walker.  He's an 'off-the-charts' fiscal conservative--downright frightening, LOL!

      Here's a WSJ article about the bi-partisan  corporatist/fiscal hawk group of 'centrists' known as NO LABELS.

      Wall Street Journal/POLITICS
      November 24, 2010

      Aiming for the Political Middle

      . . . No Labels ( is led by Democratic fund-raiser Nancy Jacobson and Republican strategist Mark McKinnon, who were introduced to each other by Kevin Sheekey, Mr. Bloomberg's political adviser.

      The group has raised more than $1 million to seed its effort against what it calls "hyper-partisanship." Backers include co-chairman of Loews Corp. Andrew Tisch, Panera Bread founder Ron Shaich and ex-Facebook executive Dave Morin. Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, as well as U.S. senators Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut and Michigan's Debbie Stabenow, will attend the New York launch.

      The group's goal is to start a centrist equivalent to the tea-party movement on the right and MoveOn on the left. It sees an opportunity based on the defeat of liberal Republicans in recent years and the heavy losses taken by conservative Democrats in 2010.

      "I've never seen such a wide opening for a third force in American politics," says William Galston, a Brookings Institution fellow and No Labels adviser. . . .

      [Note:  The reference to 'MoveOn.']


      "Only he who can see the invisible, can do the impossible."-- Frank L. Gaines


      by musiccitymollie on Tue May 14, 2013 at 02:18:56 PM PDT

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      •  Just found another annoucement of the 'launch' of (0+ / 0-)

        'No Labels.'

        Guess who else is/was affiliated with this Group?

        No Labels Launches Today

        December 13, 2010

        You may have noticed several news vans near campus this morning. They are here to cover an event taking place in Lerner today, whose speakers include Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Senator Evan Bayh, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, Senator Joe Lieberman, columnist David Brooks, and MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” co-hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski. Over 1,000 people are expected to be in attendance. . . .

        It may wind up that we have to figure out which Dems aren't members of this outfit, LOL!


        "Only he who can see the invisible, can do the impossible."-- Frank L. Gaines


        by musiccitymollie on Tue May 14, 2013 at 03:36:24 PM PDT

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  •  if they want to save $4B in SNAP (14+ / 0-)

    Just raise the minimum wage to $10 an hour...

  •  people love to complain about... (17+ / 0-)

    people on food stamps.

    People in this country have a serious problem with helping people get a meal. People seem to really think living in subsidized housing, and eating subsidized meals is somehow a luxury. And this is why these clueless hacks in DC can get away with shit like this.

    I sing praises in the church of nonsense, but in my heart I'm still an atheist, demanding sense of all things.

    by jbou on Tue May 14, 2013 at 01:34:01 PM PDT

  •  Thank God the Republicans control the Senate (11+ / 0-)

    otherwise Our Party would have to take some blame for this.

    Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

    by corvo on Tue May 14, 2013 at 01:36:45 PM PDT

  •  Less $$ to recipients or higher bar to qualify? (2+ / 0-)
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    •  Either way it will result in less $$ to recipients (7+ / 0-)

      Because they adjust the amount you get by how much you make below the bar to qualify. So if they raise the bar to qualify (meaning you have to earn less) then they also reduce the amount to the majority of people who are on food stamps, who bring in some amount of money a month. (Working families, people on disability, etc.)

      "Madness! Total and complete madness! This never would've happened if the humans hadn't started fighting one another!" Londo Mollari

      by FloridaSNMOM on Tue May 14, 2013 at 01:57:43 PM PDT

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  •  I just don't get it.. what do they expect.. (8+ / 0-)

    these folks to do to get to eat?  They KNOW most of them are incapable of suddenly getting jobs and creating new income for themselves.  There simply isn't nearly enough waste/fraud to absorb these kinds of cuts.  And even if their were, it would take a funding INCREASE to investigate it and stop it.

    The "roll over and die" factor on this kind of insanity is just too off-the-charts to ignore.

  •  Ugh. (3+ / 0-)
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    Looks like Austerity has a thousand fathers, but Keynesianism is an orphan.

    ( h/t to JFK )

    "..The political class cannot solve the problems it created. " - Jay Rosen

    by New Rule on Tue May 14, 2013 at 02:07:09 PM PDT

  •  This is with a Democratically controlled Senate. (6+ / 0-)
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    But hey, tax cuts, and bailouts for the top 1% don't pay for themselves.  

    The tent got so big it now stands for nothing.

    by Beelzebud on Tue May 14, 2013 at 02:16:07 PM PDT

  •  We can't cut ONE (5+ / 0-)
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    experimental weapons system?

    Feed our people before working on anything else? Maybe see to their health care?

    They want to see the streets lined with poor. They want to see charities overtaxed to the point of collapse. They want to see how beautiful the world will be living in Randian Utopia.

    What good is wealth when it is unspendable? How useful is it when nobody has goods or services to offer any more?

    At least a fed family was able to attend school, look for work and have a reasonable outcome.

    I challenge these old men to live on what they now expect those they have undercut so severely to survive (but not thrive...that is too much), for as long as they inflict it on others.

    I think they should have to budget the Senate Cafeteria using the same per capita as this new lowered standard.

    Anyone remember the line from Steinbeck's Tortilla Flat...

    The visiting nurse, trained in child psychology, said kindly, “Freddie, do you get enough to eat?”

    “Sure,” said Alfredo.

    “Well, now. Tell me what you have for breakfast.”

    “Tortillas and beans,” said Alfredo.

    The nurse nodded her head dismally to the principal. “What do you have when you go home for lunch?”

    “I don’t go home.”

    “Don’t you eat at noon?”

    “Sure. I bring some beans wrapped up in a tortilla.”

    Actual alarm showed in the nurse’s eyes, but she controlled herself. “At night what do you have to eat?”

    “Tortillas and beans.”

    Her psychology deserted her. “Do you mean to stand there and tell me you eat nothing but tortillas and beans?”

    Alfredo was astonished. “Jesus Christ,” he said, “what more do you want?”

    Another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build and nobody wants to do maintenance. Kurt Vonnegut

    by ToKnowWhy on Tue May 14, 2013 at 02:19:36 PM PDT

    •  The church will save them (3+ / 0-)
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      No mention these programs were initiated because the churches are inadequate replacements for promoting the general welfare.

      •  Nearest food bank I've found to me (2+ / 0-)
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        is almost an hour's drive away. Of course we don't have a car so...

        And even if we did, would the amount of food we'd get exceed the gas we'd spend getting there? I don't know the answer to that. It's been too long since I've had a car.

        "Madness! Total and complete madness! This never would've happened if the humans hadn't started fighting one another!" Londo Mollari

        by FloridaSNMOM on Tue May 14, 2013 at 02:47:51 PM PDT

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        •  And what they offer are starches and discarded (2+ / 0-)
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          Produce anyway. After a humiliating process to assure you are not trying to scam such a wonderful bounty.

          •  Very true (2+ / 0-)
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            which makes me even less likely to make the herculean effort it would take me to actually get to one. I'd either end up paying a friend for gas (with money that could be spent on more and better food locally) or talking my mom into coming to get me, driving me home then driving back herself, which again, would take more gas money that could be better spent on food.

            "Madness! Total and complete madness! This never would've happened if the humans hadn't started fighting one another!" Londo Mollari

            by FloridaSNMOM on Tue May 14, 2013 at 03:31:08 PM PDT

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  •  It's a question of fewer rural votes (3+ / 0-)
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    The Farm Bill, most of which is made up of nutrition programs for urban consumers with attached provisions for commodity subsidies that benefit farmers, has been a textbook example of US coalition politics for decades.  Representatives of one of the historically wealthiest categories of the American population -- farmers -- votes with those representing one of the poorest categories -- low-income urban dwellers -- to provide each other with their own welfare programs that each needs for different reasons.  

    Over time, the connection between the food grown by the farmer-beneficiaries has been decoupled from the food consumed by the nutrition program beneficiaries, mostly for good reasons, but each has managed to support each others' interests nonetheless because of a unique sunset provision in the original farm legislation establishing such programs, called Permanent Law.  

    If a farm bill is not signed or extending every five years, farm and nutrition policy reverts to what it was in the 1940's.  This means an elimination of all nutrition programs as we know them, because they are not part of permanent law, and a rise in farm prices to levels on parity with farm commodity prices in circa 1910, which is what the New Deal era 1940's farm legislation provided for farmers.  (In those days, the food stamp program was a way to get rid of the excess food the government purchased from farmers by distributing them to the poor through the existing supermarket system.  Today such a system would make little sense because the kinds of foods eaten are mostly processed post harvest in some way and would not match up very well to low-income family's food needs, so the result would be a dramatic reduction in nutrition programs as we know them today.)

    For many commodity farmers, Permanent Law would be great (though not soybeans, which weren't even grown in 1910 in high enough amounts to matter), but it would be a disaster for food and energy producers, so farmers agree to a system which forces them to accept lower, market determined prices for their commodities, plus a food stamp program, in exchange for at least some subsidy and other supports for the next five years to offset the lower prices.

    What has appeared to have happened is that there are now not enough rural votes to keep the farmers side of the coalition alive.  The tea party victory in 2010 wiped out the rural legislators and replaced them with a group of people ideologically opposed to supporting farm or nutrition subsidies but with little understanding of the history or consequences of not doing so -- i.e much higher subsidies for many farmers than would be the case if they passed the bills.  Coupled with increasing hostility among urban voters for "big corn," the coalition may soon be dead altogether, and this is likely to spell the end of the food stamp program in its current levels of funding.  

    •  There are not fewer rural votes in the Senate (3+ / 0-)
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      there are the same number of votes from "Farm States" as there were in 1964 in the Senate. This is a nice description of the "Farm Bill" process and history, but it doesn't reflect the real change that matters- Senators no longer give a damn about the common people of the United States, they only care about their careers. I do not know to what end Democratic Senators feel that their continued presence in "the village" is necessary, if this is the type of legislative chicanery that they believe "serves" the people.

      The poor, the aged, the youth and the working people of the US once  had a friend in the Democratic Party- now we're just fair weather friends, if it doesn't cost a Democrat campaign money from their bosses, then they'll occasionally pay lip service to the ideals of FDR and LBJ, but they'll rarely act as if they are committed to those ideals.  

      "Intelligence is quickness in seeing things as they are..." George Santayana

      by KJG52 on Tue May 14, 2013 at 03:09:24 PM PDT

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      •  Even in farm states (0+ / 0-)

        there are very few farmers left.  And even the food stamp program, America's first welfare program during the New Deal when Democrats were supposedly friends of the poor, aged, youth and working people, was never designed to primarily help the poor.  It was designed to help farmers and farmland owners by buying up low priced commodities to keep the prices above market levels.  The excess food had to be disposed of somewhere, and they found they could get votes to establish the welfare program for farmers (who even then were much wealthier, as a class, than the rest of Americans) by coming up with a convenient, win-win scheme to give the food the government bought from farmers to the indigent through a system of warehouses and vouchers and the existing grocery store industry.  

        The poor were always the afterthought --- the secondary priority -- even in the midst of the Great Depression.  It was like that then, and its like that now.  That's what being a socially constructed dependent group like "poor," "aged," "youth," and "working people" means, after all.  It means you need the help of  powerful counter-party to get anything from government.  And farmers are no longer the powerful counter-party they used to be, and much less united on what's left for them in commodity subsidies.  So without a coalition to pressure even a well-intended Democratic Senator stand up for something like food stamps, she's just reading the inevitable -- there's no support for keeping food stamps funded at current levels left.

        To get that support back we need a stronger coalition than what is presently possible with the traditional players.

        •  This is not true, poor and unemployed Americans (1+ / 0-)
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          were a priority of both the "New Deal," and "Great Society," legislation of the Democratic Party in the 1930's and 1960's. This take on the "sausage making," is typical of Democratic operatives in the "New Democratic Party," there is no moral basis or positive agenda in politics, only the machinations that pit one interest group against another in Darwinian struggle, it is very comforting for the narcissistic nihilists that put forth these arguments, but it is not true.

          "Intelligence is quickness in seeing things as they are..." George Santayana

          by KJG52 on Tue May 14, 2013 at 06:33:24 PM PDT

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          •  Nailed it!!!! (1+ / 0-)
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            The modern day food stamp program was started after JFK traveled to West Virginia / Appalachia and was appalled to see children in starvation conditions and mothers miscarriage from lack of food

            However, in fulfillment of a campaign promise made in West Virginia, President John F. Kennedy's first Executive Order called for expanded food distribution on February 2, 1961

            Food Stamp Act of 1964

            The Food Stamp Act of 1964 appropriated $75 million to 350,000 individuals in 40 counties and three cities. The measure drew overwhelming support from House Democrats, 90 percent from urban areas, 96 percent from the suburbs, and 87 percent from rural areas.

            •  you might want read further down (0+ / 0-)

              in the wikipedia entry you pulled that from:

              "Rooted in congressional logrolling, the act was part of a larger appropriation that raised price supports for cotton and wheat. Rural lawmakers supported the program so that their urban colleagues would not dismantle farm subsidies. Food stamps, along with Medicaid, Head Start, and the Job Corps were foremost among the growing anti-poverty programs."
          •  If that makes you feel better (0+ / 0-)

            go on believing it.  Meanwhile people who pay attention to policy studies scholars and history, people like President Obama or even Saul Alinsky, and adopt a realist model to "sausage-making" will be the ones who get things done for people who need it most.

            No one said there is no moral basis, but the historical facts simply don't back up the myth that righteous-minded do-gooding created the New Deal.  Ending poverty requires power and to ignore how power works is to give up the fight before it starts.  

            The farm bill system is the classic case in point.  Food stamps, the most important welfare program at the time, was created only as an afterthought to solve the problem of getting rid of excess grain and milk commodities, while the primary target group was farmers who were, yes, losing their farms but even then were much wealthier as a class than the much more indigent urban unemployed.  

            Remember FDR's famous quote to anti-poverty activists after he was elected: "I agree with you.  Now make me do it."

            •  Liars, knaves and fools always cling to Real- (0+ / 0-)

              Politik, the politics of authoritarian demagoguery, put forward by a Prussian aristocrat to further the aims of a 19th Century imperialist monarchy.  The claim that Democrats are not, and shouldn't be motivated by a desire to make life better for the people is the eternal cry of the professional cynic and "pragmatist" political operator.
              The biggest giveaway is reducing FDR's total engagement with socialist, progressive and liberal forces in America to one tired old quote: "I agree with you.  Now make me do it." FDR and LBJ were both consummately skilled at political maneuver, but neither would condone this cynical reductionist approach to politics that you apparently endorse. Your incorrect about the politics and the policy surrounding "Food Stamps," the motivation and need for the program, as well as the possibilities of strengthening the program with focus and moral leadership. America is lessened everyday by the machinations of "pragmatist," deal makers with no moral vision, like Pres. B. Obama. By the way, Saul Alinsky would thoroughly reject your view.

              "Intelligence is quickness in seeing things as they are..." George Santayana

              by KJG52 on Wed May 15, 2013 at 12:09:18 AM PDT

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              •  Well, I've presented evidence (0+ / 0-)

                to back up my story.  You've just got a lot of wishful hot air.  Have you ever even read Saul Alinsky, or been trained by an Alinsky organizing school?  Maybe you should since he called himself "The Machiavelli for the Have-nots."  

                What follows is for those who want to change the world from what it is to what they believe it should be. The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away.
                Alinsky's, like FDR's LBJ's and even Obama's, is an entirely Realist framework for organizing and political action, and his followers, such as the Gameliel Foundation that provided Barrack Obama his organizer training and job, start their famous week-long training courses with an exercise familiar to all students of realist politics -- the Melian Dialogue, in order to teach naive activists and "justice junkies," apparently such as yourself, to think like Athenians and not Melians.  
  •  Kirsten Gillibrand has consistently fought this (6+ / 0-)

    but she's not getting any help. Where the HELL are the rest of the Democrats???

    "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Tue May 14, 2013 at 02:27:11 PM PDT

  •  All I Can Say Is This Is Insane (6+ / 0-)

    We are supposedly one of the richest countries in the world yet we have one of the highest child poverty rates in the world.  It looks like we will soon be number one for child poverty in the world.

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Tue May 14, 2013 at 02:54:41 PM PDT

  •  Cuts to SNAP are cuts to food business income (4+ / 0-)
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    Every single penny of SNAP benefits gets spent on food. Food grown by farmers. Food sold by retailers, from bodegas to super Wal-Marts. This is not just less food security for poor people, it's less business for those who produce and sell food.

    I don't see the Chamber of Commerce jumping on it, though.

    "Maybe life's meaning is not so much found, as it is made." Opus, by Berke Breathed

    by Lisa in Bama on Tue May 14, 2013 at 02:56:59 PM PDT

  •  Stupid. (3+ / 0-)
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    KJG52, Tweedledee5, JerryNA

    Good thing we have a Democratic majority in one house of Congress and a Democratic administration, otherwise we might be getting some shit policy out of Washington. :P

    The GOP can't win on ideas. They can only win by lying, cheating, and stealing. So they do.

    by psnyder on Tue May 14, 2013 at 02:59:53 PM PDT

  •  They (0+ / 0-)

    They want riots.
    To show how "barbaric" the people are.
    So they can shoot you.

    It's the early sixties all over again.

  •  The ag committee is big on supports for big ag. (0+ / 0-)

    Guess that has to come from somewhere.  :(

  •  I am in favor of fighting to restore food aid (1+ / 0-)
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    Let's keep fighting these cuts one by one.  This one is particularly cruel and unnecessary.  But again, don't look to me to advocate for a grand bargain with chained CPI in it.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Rianne Eisler

    by noofsh on Tue May 14, 2013 at 07:50:27 PM PDT

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